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Chris L

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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2008, 10:37:49 AM »
I also watched PAYDAY starring Rip Torn a couple of nights ago.  It's a much seamier, more realistic glimpse at the country music biz of the 70's than NASHVILLE.  Torn is as good as you'd expect as a violent, pill-popping egomaniac.  There's also a scene where his big dumb ox of a driver advises a distressed groupie about the proper way to make omelettes.  

Original tagline:  "If you can't drink it, snort it, spend it, or love it... forget it!"  

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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2008, 01:22:57 PM »
I also watched PAYDAY starring Rip Torn a couple of nights ago.  It's a much seamier, more realistic glimpse at the country music biz of the 70's than NASHVILLE.  Torn is as good as you'd expect as a violent, pill-popping egomaniac.  There's also a scene where his big dumb ox of a driver advises a distressed groupie about the proper way to make omelettes.  

Original tagline:  "If you can't drink it, snort it, spend it, or love it... forget it!"  

I rented this and watched the first hour of it. I liked it, but I was tired.

Between Payday and The Man Who Fell to Earth (which I watched this weekend), is there any 70s Rip Torn movie where's he not just fucking everything?
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Chris L

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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2008, 01:30:36 PM »
Between Payday and The Man Who Fell to Earth (which I watched this weekend), is there any 70s Rip Torn movie where's he not just fucking everything?

Nope, he's either fucking it, snorting it, drinking it, spending it, or attacking it with a hammer. 

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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2008, 02:11:52 PM »
I also watched PAYDAY starring Rip Torn a couple of nights ago.  It's a much seamier, more realistic glimpse at the country music biz of the 70's than NASHVILLE.  Torn is as good as you'd expect as a violent, pill-popping egomaniac.  There's also a scene where his big dumb ox of a driver advises a distressed groupie about the proper way to make omelettes. 

Original tagline:  "If you can't drink it, snort it, spend it, or love it... forget it!" 
I saw this years ago and loved it. I mostly remember the final scene and Rip Torn's absolutely crazy eyes. I don't want to spoil anything, but you have to see those eyes.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2008, 04:16:21 PM »
While we're on all these gritty, pre-Giuliani NYC movies, can I take it way back to black and white and toss The Incident into the ring?  These two street toughs, seemingly right out of "West Side Story" (one of them is the young Martin Sheen), turn out to be actually "tough," if not downright sociopathic, and hold a subway car hostage, physically and psychologically messing with all the passengers, one by one, none of whom will lift a finger to challenge these guys, which only pisses them off more - it's a gut wrenching hour and a half.

That sounds great, TL. Gritty and creepy, right up my alley. I'll definitely check it out.


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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2008, 04:20:05 PM »
I also watched PAYDAY starring Rip Torn a couple of nights ago.  It's a much seamier, more realistic glimpse at the country music biz of the 70's than NASHVILLE.  Torn is as good as you'd expect as a violent, pill-popping egomaniac.  There's also a scene where his big dumb ox of a driver advises a distressed groupie about the proper way to make omelettes. 

Original tagline:  "If you can't drink it, snort it, spend it, or love it... forget it!" 

I rented this and watched the first hour of it. I liked it, but I was tired.

Between Payday and The Man Who Fell to Earth (which I watched this weekend), is there any 70s Rip Torn movie where's he not just fucking everything?

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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2008, 04:29:33 PM »
Switching gears: here's a big reco for The Swimmer (Frank Perry, 1968).

This is a great, very odd piece of work. I'm lazy, so here's something I wrote about it a couple of years ago:

At a pool party in beautiful, upperscale Connecticut, Ned Merrill (an aging, swimsuit-clad Burt Lancaster) sets out to "swim his way home" by using the pools of his neighbors, thus working his way through the county back home to his house and family. As he moves on, pool by pool, we gradually learn of his past, present and future - and all is not well. Odd and daring in both premise and execution, The Swimmer features an impressive performance by Lancaster, and the film is in perfect tune with his shifting mood and gradual disorientation of the world around him. At first I thought that Merrill's persona combined with the superman physique (for a middle-aged man) was a bit narcissistic and self-indulgent, but it makes sense, as the reason for focusing on his body becomes increasingly ambivalent and revealing; in the end, Merrill has nowhere to hide.

This is essential viewing, but also a painful experience - watching Lancaster emotionally deteriorate as he progresses through the lush garden parties and expensive pools is tough; little is given back to him in terms of sympathy or triumph. However, for the viewer The Swimmer is rewarding, and should be sought out by anyone interested in existential, allegorical dramas dealing with the journey inwards (with some excellent camerawork and posh locations to boot). An uncredited Sydney Pollack directed one of the best segments of the film, when Lancaster confronts an old mistress.

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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2008, 04:42:17 PM »
I saw that movie when I was very young and absolutely loathed it.  I've wanted to see it again for a while now.  Someday.

I didn't care for Little Murders, either.  I had high hopes for it when it came out--I grew up on Jules Feiffer cartoons--and was very disappointed.  I still don't like it much, but I'm kinder to it now that I don't expect as much.

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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2008, 04:47:41 PM »
The Cheever story The Swimmer is based on is a nice short read.

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2008, 05:04:43 PM »
The Cheever story The Swimmer is based on is a nice short read.

reading and/or thinking about John Cheever makes me want to fall off a ski lift.

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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2008, 05:12:05 PM »
To each his own, I guess.

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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2008, 05:16:07 PM »
I've never seen the movie!
And it's not that I hate his writing. I really like it, actually. It just completely extinguishes any tiny bit of hope I could possibly have about life or the human race or anything.

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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2008, 05:29:29 PM »
Sorry, I was responding to Sarah. I don't know a thing about Cheever, never read anything by him.

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« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2008, 06:28:22 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2008, 06:30:57 PM »
The thing is, I'm curious to see the movie now, because I might like it better.  Someday it'll turn up on TCM, and I'll check it out.