I totally said "Liquid Swords".

[orangewhip]

At the same moment he said "Return to the 36 Chambers"

[Sploops]

At the same moment he said "Return to the 36 Chambers"

Not hearing it... http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=26936&archive=42216&starttime=1:31:13

[Denim Gremlin]

also, why no mention of Supreme Clientele when talking about Ghostface?

[TremblingEagle]

You guys are probably taking it easier on HipHop than you should
granted I know u all are more rock people.

but to give my take
the whole friggin genre jumped the shark around '98


if Tom thinks metal is childish multiply that by 1000 for rap today.

oh yeah Tical was NOT good

and that had a definite reason in that RZA lost a lot of beats and albums in a fire/flood
including things for that album

singles were VERY good though.

[erechoveraker]

I missed all of this last night.

Wallabee Champ isn't even a real album, I feel cheated.

There's tons of good hip hop out now though, and since '98. Open your mind...

[todd]

i wish I knew shit about hiphop, but I never had "that friend" who got me into it. someone recommend me something.

[Stupornaut]

Post '98 rap that doesn't suck:

The Coup - Pick a Bigger Weapon
Jay-Z - American Gangster; The Blueprint; The Black Album
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele; The Pretty Toney Album (source of one of Tom's bed music instrumentals); Fishscale
DJ Muggs vs. GZA - Grandmasters
Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams
Cee-Lo - Cee-Lo Green Is the Soul Machine
Dungeon Family - Even in Darkness
MF DOOM - Operation Doomsday; MM FOOD; Viktor Vaughn: Vaudeville Villain
Ludacris - Back for the First Time
Nas - God's Son
Witchdoctor - Diary of an American Witchdoctor
Quasimoto - The Unseen; The Further Adventures of Lord Quas

This is just for starters, and I haven't gone into some of the potentially contentious love-hate dudes I like such as El-P and Lil Wayne.

[erechoveraker]

I'd add to the post 98 list:

Soul Position - 8 Million Stories
Sean Price - Monkey Barz
Redman - Malpractice
Strange Fruit Project - The Healing
That Think Differently Wu/Indie Culture album
Meth & Red - Blackout
Marco Polo - Port Authority
RZA - Digital Bullet
Kanye - Late Reg (although I'd be open to an argument that all 3 of his albums are pretty good...)
Dre - Chronic 2001
De La - Grind Date, both AOI albums
Styles P - Gangster & a Gentleman (his last album is pretty good too..)
Jadakiss - Kiss tha game goodbye
Common - Be
All the Jay Z/Beanie stuff on that Roc La Familia album is great, the rest not so much
The Beatnuts - Take it or squeeze it, Musical Massacre
Zion I - True & Livin'
Busdriver - Fear of a Black Tangent
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary's 1 and 2

Masta Ace even had a couple of good albums this decade.

I'm totally forgetting a few really good things too I'm sure. The 8 Mile Soundtrack had some cuts on it, although I know everyone hates the white boy...

[samir]

Mos Def - Black on Both Sides.

[erechoveraker]

Oh yeah, and every Roots album since then. They may not be as good as they used to be, but Things Fall Apart is top shelf, and Phrenology was a great album too. And there's always a few good cuts even now.

[Stupornaut]

Yeah, I know I'm busy at work and don't have a lot of time to schlep through my iPod but forgetting the Roots makes me feel like a Philadummy. And Kanye is a frequent visitor to my Hate Pit, but he's only there to stand at the observation deck safety railing, looking down and laughing at 50 Cent.

[JonFromMaplewood]

I owe you a big apology, orangewhip.  I agreed with Tom on the phone that you did not say Liquid Swords. I am listening now to the archive, and you totally did.

I am sorry.

[Andy]

off the top of my head.
Wale- 100 Miles and Runnin
Rhymefest- Man in the Mirror
Rhymefest- Blue Collar
Tim Fite- Under the Counterculture
Brother Ali- Undisputed Truth

[ericluxury]

I'd add Madvillian, the Dead Prez albums/mixtapes, the Clipse albums/mixtapes, Killer Mike,

I'd also mention that the album format has never been the best fit for hiphop. Its, for the most part, been a single-based medium where albums are made only because that has been the economic reality of the music business. There are tons of amazing artists (even pre-'98) who never recorded a classic or an even album.

[erechoveraker]

Agreed. Like Young Zee. Never had a good album, but dude is probably in the top 20 emcees of all time. He's like Earl the Goat, street legend.

But yeah, everything since '98 is garbage... YIKES.