I totally said "Liquid Swords".

[TremblingEagle]

Like I said the whole genre jumped the shark.

Chronic 2001?!

Please none of those albums you mentioned could shine the shoes of an Illmatic or OB4CL
hell none of those albums stack up next to Bhuloone Mindstate. I believe it is a question of time and trends
production techniques etc.

[JonFromMaplewood]

All rap since 1910 is terrible.

[Stupornaut]

All rap before 1998 is garbage. "Oooh bluh bluh bloo the world is yours I can rap well" man what

[TremblingEagle]

All rap before 1998 is garbage. "Oooh bluh bluh bloo the world is yours I can rap well" man what

Sometimes the whole is more than the constituents parts. It wasn't that Nas was saying such great stuff
it is the way that album was so lovingly put together, so hungry, so free of the commercialism that choked out everything that came after. Even the one track with an eye towards radio play "It aint hard to tell" would be classed as stone cold outsider lefty backpack rap by todays standards. When at the time it was the musings of that generations typical high school senior.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_IFAt8ka0[/youtube]
 
compare that to the more introspective stylings of  De la  few years earlier

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS4r5TSTJ30[/youtube]

the hope for us heads (me anyway) was a young turk like Nas would grow into something similar

but then everything went to complete shit
and it all became a race to the bottom.

[Stupornaut]

See no OK that "old rap sux" thing was a joke. I didn't mean for this to turn into the Status Ain't Hood comments section.

I like the old shit and the new shit. I love the crap out of Illmatic but I still think "Yaaaah!" is funny. I think this means there is something wrong with my brain.

[TremblingEagle]

See no OK that "old rap sux" thing was a joke. I didn't mean for this to turn into the Status Ain't Hood comments section.

huh?

I like the old shit and the new shit. I love the crap out of Illmatic but I still think "Yaaaah!" is funny. I think this means there is something wrong with my brain.

whats "Yaaaah!"? Is that some current hit on the radio? (not trying to be funny, I really don't follow stuff)

[samir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCmYyG-yg4

[Andy]

hell none of those albums stack up next to Bhuloone Mindstate. I believe it is a question of time and trends

I'm a huge De la fan, but go back and listen to Buhloone Mindstate.  I hate to say it, but I can't keep it on for more than about 5 minutes now.

[Jouster]

At the same moment he said "Return to the 36 Chambers"

Not hearing it... http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=26936&archive=42216&starttime=1:31:13

I heard you, orangewhip.

[ericluxury]

hell none of those albums stack up next to Bhuloone Mindstate. I believe it is a question of time and trends

I'm a huge De la fan, but go back and listen to Buhloone Mindstate.  I hate to say it, but I can't keep it on for more than about 5 minutes now.

Buhloone Mindstate is the only full De La album I still listen to. I love the first 4 so much, but I found myself skipping tracks on the other 3 enough that I didn't put the full albums on my ipod.

[Andy]

I love Stakes is High

[Joe Rogaine]

Anybody heard the new Ghostface album full of odds and ends called The Wallabee Champ, its pretty good?

[TremblingEagle]

hell none of those albums stack up next to Bhuloone Mindstate. I believe it is a question of time and trends

I'm a huge De la fan, but go back and listen to Buhloone Mindstate.  I hate to say it, but I can't keep it on for more than about 5 minutes now.

I hate to sound like a snob but maybe you just don't understand it. that album from front to back is a masterpiece (to me anyway) everything single space was so crafted. Nothing there is disposable, you see people treating rap as legitimate art without being preachy.

In my opinion Stakes is High was De La doing a normal market driven rap album, good for the time, but not transcendent. All the subsequent albums fell deeper and deeper in the hole.

I want nothing to do with that stuff that Samir posted
it just shows how far things deteriorated into absolute trash, I'm depressed somebody got me to watch that
I usually avoid all that crap.

This was a "hit" rap song in 1992

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Z8R5vRIJM[/youtube]

when you read all the youtube comments
kids only know it as the song from the NBA video game

damn, now I'm depressed

[Martin]

I was 16 when TROY hit. It changed everything. Chills whenever I hear it, to this day.

Remember "hip hop don't play no R&B"? Phife said that, in 1991.

[Stupornaut]

This was also a hit in 1992.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_x4TS5LQnO4[/youtube]

This was a hit last year.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=t3PgZ9bqShc[/youtube]

There's always been commercial garbage-ass bullshit bumping elbows with legit stone classics. Do you really want to be the Little Steven of rap?