Humorless Politics Thread

[Matt]

How can we be good americans if we can't criticize the government? It's our duty as citizens. I remember saying something about the patriot act taking away our freedom when I was in school, and the entire class attacked me! I think Obama's supporters are just as childish. He's a person, so naturally there are negative things to say about him. And besides that, he's not going to fix all of the problems in our country. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. Jimmy Carter is a great man, and he didn't fix everything. Everyone should watch Being There if they want to see the perfect president.

So when's the trip to Oklahoma, young patriot?

[jbissell]

Commander-in-Chief didn't even last a full season so clearly America isn't ready for a lady VP to ascend to the Presidency.

[Petey]

I don't want to vote for Obama for personal reasons. He's about the same as every other politician and he went after one of my favorite people to get attention for himself. Obama really disappointed me and I hate talking to people who talk about him like he's Jesus Christ. He seems so wonderful only because he's handsome, his wife is pretty, and he's not a republican. I feel like it's my duty to vote for him and I'd rather not vote than vote for McCain, but it's hard to be excited. Clinton would have done a better job than either McCain or Obama.

Peter Sellers is cute.

your dogs mouth isnt that cute though.

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[dave from knoxville]

I don't want to vote for Obama for personal reasons. He's about the same as every other politician and he went after one of my favorite people to get attention for himself. Obama really disappointed me and I hate talking to people who talk about him like he's Jesus Christ. He seems so wonderful only because he's handsome, his wife is pretty, and he's not a republican. I feel like it's my duty to vote for him and I'd rather not vote than vote for McCain, but it's hard to be excited. Clinton would have done a better job than either McCain or Obama.

Peter Sellers is cute.

your dogs mouth isnt that cute though.

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That is NOT muh doug

[AllisonLeGnome]

The whole "HE'S JESUS CHRIST" thing is a republican talking point. Even the most ardent Obama supporters I know will preface their praise with "For a politician, he's..."

The people making the "Obama isn't Jesus!" argument remind me of indie kids distancing themselves from a band the second they get popular - it has nothing to do with his message, his politics, or even his marketing strategy, it's an argument against his perception among a group of people that do not exist.

If you've got something you actually don't like about him, that's fine - I do too. But please stop with this "HE'S OVERRATED" bullshit, because it's as empty as any other smear.

I totally agree. There are admittedly some people who had blind faith in him and were easily disappointed, but certainly the majority are in the "for a politician..." camp.

[Gilly]

I totally disagree. You guys are obviously not on Facebook to read your friends status updates.

[Julie]

Peter Sellers is cute.

your dogs mouth isnt that cute though.

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Peter Sellers is dead.

my dog's snout is cute.

[Julie]

How can we be good americans if we can't criticize the government? It's our duty as citizens. I remember saying something about the patriot act taking away our freedom when I was in school, and the entire class attacked me! I think Obama's supporters are just as childish. He's a person, so naturally there are negative things to say about him. And besides that, he's not going to fix all of the problems in our country. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. Jimmy Carter is a great man, and he didn't fix everything. Everyone should watch Being There if they want to see the perfect president.

So when's the trip to Oklahoma, young patriot?

The stuff about being a good citizen was for everyone else. But why would I go to Oklahoma, anyway? I've been to Kansas and to Texas, and I probably won't go back to either of those places unless I have to. I don't have anything against them or against Oklahoma, but they're like Hawaii or Alabama and only exist for me when someone reminds me that they exist.

[jbissell]

I totally disagree. You guys are obviously not on Facebook to read your friends status updates.

All of the following comments are based solely on my interactions with friends and while they obviously can't be applied to everyone in their late teens/early 20s, I'm sure there are many others in similar situations.

This is the thing that worries me most about people my age voting for Obama (probably the way that I will also be voting).  For many of them, this will be their first time voting.  Most of them couldn't care less about politics but they've decided to vote this year and it has everything to do with the wave of Obama support coming from young voters.  It doesn't really matter what his positions are, they'll vote for him anyways, if for no other reason than fear of being left out of the group.  I saw this firsthand last summer when I saw Obama speak in Iowa City.  It was very apparent that a lot of people were just there because it was the cool place to be. Granted, this was before even the most informed people knew very much about the detailed positions of his campaign.  Obviously he's an electric speaker and a very charismatic man and I have no doubt that he would do a great job running the country.  It just worries me a little when people are so trusting of politicians, especially with everything that has gone on the last few years (Spitzer seems like the prime example).

[erika]

Hate to say it, but I vote based on party just about every time. All I really care about is more government involvement in schools and healthcare (It's needed, no matter what libertarians will try to tell you... something needs to even both those playing fields or the social-economic gaps will just continue to grow. They are the basis of a strong country.) so I vote Dem every time. At least for presidential elections and senators.

So basically, cookie monster could be running against McCain and I'd still vote for him.

That said, I do believe Obama could do a good job. I think no matter who gets into office is going to be seen as a fuckup though, for not fixing these unfixable problems in the next two years. The country is just too fucked at this point for anything to happen quickly enough to appease the media and republican dirtbags if/once we have a Dem in office.

[Fido]

Hate to say it, but I vote based on party just about every time. All I really care about is more government involvement in schools and healthcare (It's needed, no matter what libertarians will try to tell you... something needs to even both those playing fields or the social-economic gaps will just continue to grow. They are the basis of a strong country.) so I vote Dem every time. At least for presidential elections and senators.

So basically, cookie monster could be running against McCain and I'd still vote for him.

Amazing!  And all this time, EfB, I thought I had you pegged as a religious conservative Republican. How wrong I was!




yukyukyuk

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

It's easy to be pro-life in Alaska.  Half the women in the state 

Which is like, 4 people, including the governor.

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

yeah, but lots of guys find nerdy girls in glasses sexy.  i got on a big glasses porn kick once.  i found a dvd series called 'specs appeal.'  it was pretty good.

What was it about?

[dave from knoxville]

"With all due respect, again, to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years. He's been able, but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th-largest city in America. And, again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California, Aurora, Colorado, Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona, North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town. If he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice, where he's said, 'You know what? I'm really not first and foremost concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"


Karl Rove on Face the Nation, August 11

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A blogger is speculating that Sarah Palin's child is actually her grandchild -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223


Is it me or are we seeing signs of partisanship creeping into the DailyKos website?