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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #210 on: June 03, 2009, 03:15:23 PM »
Congratulations to Antonio Bastardo on a stellar debut:

6 IP, 5 K, 1 ER, 4 H

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #211 on: June 03, 2009, 08:11:24 PM »
Congratulations to Antonio Bastardo on a stellar debut:

6 IP, 5 K, 1 ER, 4 H



I really love his name!
I have a long history of booing

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #212 on: June 03, 2009, 09:03:09 PM »
Congratulations to Antonio Bastardo on a stellar debut:

6 IP, 5 K, 1 ER, 4 H



I really love his name!

Who doesn't?

I wonder what his favorite sandwich is.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #213 on: June 03, 2009, 09:05:51 PM »
This trade came out of nowhere:

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090603&content_id=5126050&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit

Looks like another slap in the face to a fan base that must be growing tired of them by now.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #214 on: June 04, 2009, 02:07:49 AM »
McLouth must be stoked.  He looked GOOD in that series against the cards.

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« Reply #215 on: June 04, 2009, 10:09:42 AM »
McLouth must be stoked.  He looked GOOD in that series against the cards.

Braves are starting to look kinda good. If they could actually score some runs, they'd be dangerous.

Not sure what scares me more: the Braves or whatever virulent Super-Flu is running through the Mets clubhouse.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #216 on: June 04, 2009, 11:06:42 AM »
Looks like the Braves might have a killer rotation in a couple years.

Today I'm hoping that Zambrano gets his head out of his ass.

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« Reply #217 on: June 04, 2009, 01:19:49 PM »
Today I'm hoping that Zambrano gets his head out of his ass.

My fantasy team and I share that hope.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #218 on: June 04, 2009, 01:27:10 PM »
I think the McLouth trade works out pretty well for both teams. Jordan Schafer has been a disappointment for the Braves, thus far, so they get some one with power and decent enough defensive ability to play the outfield. Plus, they didn't have to trade either Tommy Hanson or Jason Heyward. The Pirates were going nowhere with Nate McLouth and they're going nowhere without Nate McLouth. So why not get something for the future? The Pirates minor league system is deficient in pitching and they addressed those deficiencies to an extent in getting Jeff Locke and Charlie Morton. Gorkys Hernandez profiles as a potential lead-off hitter and above average defensive CF.

The fans in Pittsburgh are upset because this looks like another salary dump a la Aramis Ramirez. And the fans are tired of losing. But I agree with Neal Huntington, mediocrity should not be the ultimate goal for this team. If I were a Pirates fan, I would rather deal with a few more years of bad baseball, if it meant that I could have a legitimate contender in the few years. Unlike the last GM, Neal Huntington actually knows what he is doing. So I think that this is a solid baseball move.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #219 on: June 04, 2009, 01:39:45 PM »
Tony LaRussa is suing Twitter.

LOL.

I hate that guy so much.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #220 on: June 04, 2009, 01:46:53 PM »
I agree in re McClouth, as far as trying to build for the future is concerned. But I wonder if they couldn't do what the Indians did in the 90s: lock up arbitration/free agency years with long term contracts for their young stars so they have something to build on. Otherwise, they pretty much have to dump everyone who gets too old/expensive.

Granted, they don't really have any young stars. But they could have done something like that with Aramis Ramirez, Jason Bay, etc.
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« Reply #221 on: June 04, 2009, 01:56:59 PM »
I agree in re McClouth, as far as trying to build for the future is concerned. But I wonder if they couldn't do what the Indians did in the 90s: lock up arbitration/free agency years with long term contracts for their young stars so they have something to build on. Otherwise, they pretty much have to dump everyone who gets too old/expensive.

Granted, they don't really have any young stars. But they could have done something like that with Aramis Ramirez, Jason Bay, etc.

I will always love the Pirates for giving the Cubs a cornerstone 3B (plus Lofton and Simon) for a couple failed prospects.

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« Reply #222 on: June 04, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »
The Ramirez trade was inexcusable. Especially considering what they got in return, which essentially amounted to a box of trinkets. But that was a pure salary dump. In fact, people close to the situation say that had the Pirates not made that deal, they would have been unable to make payroll.

The problem with the Bonifay/Littlefield administration was that they poorly allocated their limited financial resources. They did attempt to sign some of their so-called "young talent," and it blew up in their faces. Case in point, they gave $60 million to Jason Kendall, a glorified singles hitter. In the end, it turned out to be a monumentally stupid decision. A decision that was driven more by PR than sound baseball rationale.

That being said, there was no way the Pirates would have been able to afford Jason Bay. And there was no way that he was going to stay here, regardless of the money they offered him. The Pirates either don't have or are completely unwilling to spend huge sums of money. Besides, the Pirates really don't have anyone worth signing to a long-term deal. In the future, McCutchen, Alvarez, etc. may warrant that kind of outlay. But right now, they don't have any player on the order of Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle, or Jim Thome.

Simply put, the Pirates, over the past 17 years, have been the worst run franchise in professional sports. There's not enough space here to list the litany of poor personnel and monetary decisions that the Pirates have made. Before Neal Huntington took over, the farm system was barren and it's still barren. It's conceivable that they could have ended up with players like B.J. Upton, Tim Lincecum, Matt Wieters, and Ryan Howard. Instead, they ended up with Bryan Bullington, Brad Lincoln, Daniel Moskos, Matt Peterson, and Ty Wigginton. This is why they're currently in such a decrepit state. And it's also why fans are so distrustful of management.

Apologies for the long post.
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« Reply #223 on: June 04, 2009, 02:26:57 PM »
The Pirates either don't have or are completely unwilling to spend huge sums of money.

You know it's bad when the highest-paid player in franchise history is Matt Morris (he lasted half a season, right?).

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #224 on: June 04, 2009, 02:50:21 PM »
Today I'm hoping that Zambrano gets his head out of his ass.

That clown is just about to overtake Chipper Jones as the biggest tool in baseball.