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tomkaters

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #135 on: September 06, 2008, 10:12:35 PM »
As somebody who is new to comic books/graphic novels, what is worth checking out? I've been reading Y: the Last Man (which I think is a very fun read so far) along with 100 Bullets and Stray Bullets (both of which are okay but I'm not really going crazy for). I've heard good things about The Watchmen, The Sandman, and The Walking Dead but I'm clueless beyond that. Any suggestions?

Walking Dead is quite good.

Some suggestions:

1)Fear Agent - a sort of sci-fi genre excercise that involves 50s sci-fi, westerns, and war comics. Art by Tony Moore who was the original artist on Walking Dead.

2)Local by Brian Wood & Ryan Kelly. Story about a girl traveling around the country and each issue takes place in a different city. They pay close attention to making the artistic representations of the art match the actual city. Leans a little more toward the sad bastard end of the spectrum.

3)Scott Pilgrim. Series of graphic novels by Bryan Lee O'Malley. A little more toward the silly side but pretty funny. Deals with 20 something musician with some surreal elements.

4)Action Philosophers - a series of funny and informative graphic novels explaining different philosophers in layman's terms.

5)If you like Y you might want to try Pride of Baghdad. It is a graphic novel by the same writer about escaped lions in Baghdad during the Iraq war. Some pretty heady stuff.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #136 on: September 06, 2008, 10:30:51 PM »
I think Douglas Wolk's Reading Comics is a good primer

Oddly, I'm in the middle of it right now. (Okay, not so oddly, I purchased it when I saw it listed in your "best of" book list) But yeah, great book, THANKS, GROTE.

My pleasure!  I think it's a great piece of work, even if you don't like comics - I wish most drama critics were half as good as Wolk.
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Re: Comic books
« Reply #137 on: September 08, 2008, 01:25:39 PM »

2)Local by Brian Wood & Ryan Kelly. Story about a girl traveling around the country and each issue takes place in a different city. They pay close attention to making the artistic representations of the art match the actual city. Leans a little more toward the sad bastard end of the spectrum.


There's a big hardcover of the complete series of Local coming out soon.  It's scheduled for this month, but it's an indie and might be a bit late.  I ordered mine from amazon, but I'm sure it'll be in local comic shops and wherever people usually buy the comics.

I've just been reading my Alias omnibus that collects the whole series.  It's a Marvel Max book, which is Marvel's mature readers imprint, but it's very connected to stuff that happens in books like Daredevil and some great connections to the Avengers and Spider-Man.  It's written by Brian Bendis with great art by Michael Gaydos and a few guest artists.

Has anyone mentioned Scalped?  Jason Aaron's modern noir on a Native American reservation.  It's a bit too much like the Departed, but it's a good read.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #138 on: September 08, 2008, 02:05:22 PM »

2)Local by Brian Wood & Ryan Kelly. Story about a girl traveling around the country and each issue takes place in a different city. They pay close attention to making the artistic representations of the art match the actual city. Leans a little more toward the sad bastard end of the spectrum.


There's a big hardcover of the complete series of Local coming out soon.  It's scheduled for this month, but it's an indie and might be a bit late.  I ordered mine from amazon, but I'm sure it'll be in local comic shops and wherever people usually buy the comics.

I've just been reading my Alias omnibus that collects the whole series.  It's a Marvel Max book, which is Marvel's mature readers imprint, but it's very connected to stuff that happens in books like Daredevil and some great connections to the Avengers and Spider-Man.  It's written by Brian Bendis with great art by Michael Gaydos and a few guest artists.

Has anyone mentioned Scalped?  Jason Aaron's modern noir on a Native American reservation.  It's a bit too much like the Departed, but it's a good read.

I love Scalped. That id one dark book, unrelenting in the fact that things just get worse and worse for Daschiel.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #139 on: September 24, 2008, 04:46:01 PM »
I'm a huge fan of American Splendor so I was wondering if any other Underground Comix are worth checking out.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #140 on: September 24, 2008, 09:41:57 PM »
I'd recommend going to your local Barnes and Nobles graphic novel section and thumbing through collections by any of the following and seeing if they tickle your fancy:

Dan Clowes
Chris Ware
Jaime Hernandez
Gilbert Hernandez
Ariel Schrag
Robert Crumb
Adrian Tomine
Chester Brown
Charles Burns
David B.
Joe Sacco
Will Eisner
Jason
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« Reply #141 on: September 24, 2008, 10:19:02 PM »
Can you give me titles? I do read Love and Rockets, all of Dan Clowes and I've read some R.Crumb. The rest of those authors aren't familiar.

I would like to know about the underground scene now, but I was kind of asking about the actual Underground Comix scene which Pekar and Crumb were a part of. There's a ton of it and I know the big ones but don't know anything about the rest.

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« Reply #142 on: September 24, 2008, 10:46:31 PM »
You should check out the comic journal boards, they tend to skew towards that stuff more than Marvel/DC stuff, that is unless they are complaining about them - which they do a lot. A LOT.

The Small Press Expo is coming up in a few weekends too, and it's probably the best collection of non-mainstream books and artists in that sort of venue for sure. If you can go, I highly suggest it.

Also, my local comic shop is run by a guy who has had his finger in the underground scene of the last 15 or so years. His store is really small, and caters almost strictly to underground books, zines, and non-Marvel/DC/Image type stuff. His site is kind of weird, but digging around on there might give you some insight into stuff that is going on in the "underground" scene now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~copaceticcomicsco/





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« Reply #143 on: September 24, 2008, 10:55:50 PM »
Cool. I'll have to lurk over on the Comic Journal boards. Thanks man.

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« Reply #144 on: September 25, 2008, 10:03:59 AM »
The old-school underground was a mixed bag. A lot of it hasn't aged well (the Fabulous Furry Freak Bros., for example). There's a new book out called Rebel Visions that's a history of the movement, with lots and lots of strips reprinted. I have an inexpensive book that reprints a few hundred pages of the classic undergrounds, too. I'll look up the title at home and pass it on. It was under $20 for 300-400 pages, and would give you a good taste of what was being done back in the day. In any case, Crumb is the most famous of those guys for a reason. He was a genius!

I like Kim Deitch a lot - he's one of the old timers, and his newer work (Blvd. of Broken Dreams, Alias the Cat) is hallucinatory and fun. I think Seth's comics (It's a Good Life if You Don't Weaken) and Chester Brown's (The Playboy, I Never Liked You) are similar in a lot of ways to Pekar's and Crumb's stuff.

There's a new collection of Aline Kominsky-Crumb's work. Her illustration style is REALLY jarring, and I'd never before read much of her stuff because I was turned off by it. But I read the new book, and it's actually wonderful.

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« Reply #145 on: September 25, 2008, 10:17:44 AM »
Yeah, Seth is amazing. Wimbledon Green is one of my favorite things that has come from any publisher in recent years, especially considering it was kind of a throwaway sketch exercise too.

http://www.bookslut.com/fiction/2006_02_007806.php

Pretty much anything Drawn & Quarterly puts out would probably appeal to you if you're looking for more underground books.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #146 on: September 25, 2008, 12:17:20 PM »
The reason I ask is because I found a torrent that has them all in there but it's very poorly seeded and very slow so I'm being choosy of what I want to look at.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #147 on: September 25, 2008, 12:57:43 PM »
Is anyone else as big a fan as I am of James Stevenson's historical "Lost And Found New York" drawing pieces for the NY Times Op-Ed page that show up every once in a while? I was pretty excited when they came out in book form last year. That guy's loose, cocktail-napkiny drawing style always makes me smile.
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« Reply #148 on: September 25, 2008, 03:00:16 PM »
Gilly, if you post the contents of the torrent, I'd be happy to make some recommendations. I know a fair amount about the old undergrounds.

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Re: Comic books
« Reply #149 on: September 25, 2008, 03:56:39 PM »
I'm at work and can't access it but in a nutshell it's everything listed on this wikipedia entry. I think the only stuff that's missing in that entry is the sex-oriented comix like Cherry Poptart. I kind of avoided that stuff...or is some of that actually decent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_comics