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courtney

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Rutger's anyone?
« on: May 18, 2009, 01:11:33 PM »

Hey all - my boyfriend's seriously looking in to studying English at Rutger's next year. We are going to be visiting that whole area (we have friends in Baltimore, New Haven, Jersey City & Brooklyn we want to see) hopefully towards the end of the summer so I was wondering if I could get suggestions as to which Rutger's town was the best to live in or if there are places near-by that work best. Where should we go? What should we look for?

Any suggestions would be great!


Thanks!

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Re: Rutger's anyone?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 01:43:15 PM »
Looking to be a Rutgers man, eh?

I'm a Cape Fear Community College man, myself.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 01:46:40 PM »
In Colorado Rutgers is considered as a quasi-Ivy League school.  I think Rutgers is in fact a top notch school, but its reputation here is really incredible.  People are very impressed that I did one semester there.


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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 02:00:00 PM »
New Brunswick is where it's at. I'll be moving into a house with some friends off-campus later this summer, less than ten minutes by foot from the major buildings on the College Avenue Campus. I don't know much about the surrounding towns, but New Brunswick seems to have pretty affordable housing off-campus, mostly college students and Oaxacan families.
The basement show scene seems to be growing. I  know of a few houses that throw good shows fairly regularly and book bands all the time.

Rutgers is great, basically. One thing to note though is that College Avenue campus is going to be in intense construction starting next semester which is going to suck. It'll look great when it's all done, but it won't benefit me.

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 02:03:34 PM »
I didn't go to Rutgers, but it is a school with a very good reputation. If I'm not mistaken, it once was part of the Ivy League, back in the 1800's. There are a lot of highly regarded undergraduate programs there and New Brunswick is supposed to be a pretty nice area.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 02:18:48 PM »
I go there now. I was a philosophy major, but I am in the midst of switching to English. Their philosophy program is pretty weak. There's a superfluous methodological divide in academia when it comes to philosophy along the lines of analytic and continental styles. Suffice to say, if a school favors one at the expense of the other they will end up hiring those professors who fall into one camp or the other and, as a result, the programs will be lacking. Rutgers is strictly analytic, so if you want to read post-modernism, deconstructuralism, structuralism, etc, you have to go into a different department. If you want even to have a class on Wittgenstein, the renowned ANALYTIC philosopher, you have to wait until maybe, just maybe, they'll offer it while you're there. They don't have a class on one of the most influential thinkers of their own methodology. That should tell you quite a bit. Also, they boast about being well rated for philosophy, but the organization that does the rating is stacked with analytic philosophers, and so is Rutgers, so it makes sense for them to farewell. It's the same as a guy named Jeffry "Jeff" Jefferson entering and winning the Best Name contest, which is judged by guys named Jeff. They brag about it. I expect more from philosophers, but maybe I shouldn't.

All the classes I've had have been pretty big. I took a philosophy class in the upper 400's and there were at least 40 people in it. Rutgers is a research institution; it's been my experience and that of many others that most of the faculty is there to do research first and teach second.

I hear they waste a lot of money on sports at the expense of academia. My history prof was telling the class how the school had cut off phone service for the department in the last 2 weeks of the term and then someone had mentioned how they were phasing out water fountains in one of the main libraries.

If someone is willing to pay such a large sum to attend Rutgers out-of-state, why not check out a different school?

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 02:22:36 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 02:24:54 PM »
I hear they waste a lot of money on sports at the expense of academia. My history prof was telling the class how the school had cut off phone service for the department in the last 2 weeks of the term and then someone had mentioned how they were phasing out water fountains in one of the main libraries.

There was actually a rather lengthy article on that particular issue in Sports Illustrated several years ago. As would be expected, a lot of Rutgers professors are none to happy about the redirection of expenditures.

While I don't agree with promoting athletics at the expense of academics, I think it is important for a university to have a good athletic program. Athletics raise the profile of a school and, most importantly, they generate revenue for a school. For example, after the George Mason basketball team went to the Final Four in 2006, applications went up by 10,000 or so.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 02:55:03 PM »
Sports and academics are not mutually exclusive, though. Rutgers is clearly favoring one at the expense of the other.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 03:00:52 PM »
I probably didn't articulate it well enough, but that is what I was trying to say. They needn't be mutually exclusive. Look at North Carolina, UCLA, Texas, and Florida, those are all top tier schools with top tier athletic programs. It can be done. What bothers me are those academics who don't believe that athletics are important to a university. There are plenty of them.

Admittedly, I don't know much about Rutgers. However, I did go to a school that tried to de-emphasize athletics and did so with disastrous consequences for the university.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009, 05:02:43 PM »
New Brunswick!

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 11:38:04 PM »
I teach full-time at Rutgers.  And yes, we're all pissed about the fact that we have to do without pretty basic amenities, and administrative staff are getting laid off, while they just built a $30m stadium and are about to rip apart College Ave for this insanely expensive construction project that will no doubt benefit some politically-connected NJ real estate developers.

It's a decent school.  Classes are too big, though.  Other than my screenwriting class (taken by such FOT as Keith Whitener and The Yellow Chair, both of whom did very well indeed), I teach English 201, which is a boilerplate research paper class, and students routinely ask me for recommendations, even if they did poorly in the class, because I'm the only prof to whom they've actually spoken.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 01:27:05 AM »
I teach full-time at Rutgers.

I didn't want to be the one to out you, but now that you've outed yourself I will say that Professor Grote's class was excellent and that if your boyfriend has the opportunity to take any classes with him he certainly should.



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Re: Rutger's anyone?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 01:46:34 AM »
In fact, I think Grote taught Mr. Magoo's grandson. Total legacy admit.

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 10:15:18 AM »
So ... y'all are saying "Nothing to see here ... move along ..."?

Perhaps his research has steered him in the wrong direction?


Believe me, I know all about schools spending their money on the athletic program you guys - I just graduated from the University of Nebraska in Lincoln. As I walked to the printmaking & photography building that hasn't been updated since, like, 1965 I had to walk past the gigantic, over-priced, over-done Memorial Stadium. I think they're "memorializing" the last time they had a football championship - in 1997.

So where do any of you English-types recommend getting an education from in the North East?

Also, I forgot to mention that we are both in our 30s so "cool stuff to do" takes on a bit of a different meaning. I hate saying that but it's true.