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J. Garbage

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Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« on: June 06, 2009, 05:08:05 PM »
...anyone read this thing?  I'm assuming it's part of a novel and that's why it's totally unsatisfying as a story.  I suspect it's some kind of allegory about the downfall of American liberalism or some such?  White liberal nightmares?  Grand Canyon??  I don't know, thought it sucked.  Thanks for your time.

daveB from Oakland

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 07:01:38 PM »
I didn't read it, but I'd like to praise Jonathan Lethem's recent New Yorker story entitled "Ava's Apartment".

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2009/05/25/090525fi_fiction_lethem?currentPage=all

I read this story a few days after hearing Tom talk about Dogmo ... the Lethem story is a similar tribute to animals that make the world a better place.

Not to get all "Marley and Me" on y'all ... but anyway, it's a good story, you can print it out and read it for free ... I really liked it.

By the way, when did all the Johnathans and Johns become Jonathans and Jons?
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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 07:06:19 PM »
I didn't read it, but I'd like to praise Jonathan Lethem's recent New Yorker story entitled "Ava's Apartment".






Wait, you're praising a story you haven't read?  What cheek!
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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 06:22:10 AM »
By the way, when did all the Johnathans and Johns become Jonathans and Jons?

Though Jons used to be Johns, Jonathans have always been Jonathans.  "Johnathan" is a modern corruption.

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 01:02:04 PM »
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 

As for Franzen, meh.  I dug The Corrections when it came out, and was briefly swept up in the hype surrounding his Harper's article, but it becomes clearer and clearer that he's a pretentious douche, and that his only real agenda is returning to a 1956-65 that only existed in his imagination.
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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 01:27:08 PM »
"Jonathan" and "John" are different names. "Jon" is short for Jonathan. This is The Way. "John" is short for nothing.

J. Garbage

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 02:22:43 PM »
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 

As for Franzen, meh.  I dug The Corrections when it came out, and was briefly swept up in the hype surrounding his Harper's article, but it becomes clearer and clearer that he's a pretentious douche, and that his only real agenda is returning to a 1956-65 that only existed in his imagination.

Yeah, I like The Corrections, but have you read How To Be Alone?  Eww boy.  I'll tell you how to be alone: adopt the personality of the man who wrote this book.

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 03:10:42 PM »
Looks like you guys are having a Jonathon:D

(This post is also an example of how to be alone)

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 03:55:46 PM »
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 



Cool! So, that story also featured an "abandoned" but somewhat well-appointed apartment building that got turned into a defacto animal shelter/residence ... does that have any corollary in NYC reality? I know Beverly Hills has those ridiculous swanky dog hotels, but the concept of "Ava's apartment" was a little different from that ...
"He didn't sound like a human when I was talking to him ... he sounded like a shape ... what's that shape of that building ... you know, where the Army lives?" -- Bryce, 11/24/2009

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Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 06:31:29 PM »
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 



Cool! So, that story also featured an "abandoned" but somewhat well-appointed apartment building that got turned into a defacto animal shelter/residence ... does that have any corollary in NYC reality? I know Beverly Hills has those ridiculous swanky dog hotels, but the concept of "Ava's apartment" was a little different from that ...

The real dog is owned by a bookseller in NY, who has a home, and who used to own a shop that Lethem worked in -- though I'd imagine that the idea for the story had to have come from somewhere.
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