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dave from knoxville

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2010, 01:32:27 PM »
Is your formulation too complicated for me to understand? Because if it's not, I'd like to hear how you come up with these numbers (and what exactly they mean). I'd say twice a week is probably excessive, maybe once a week or every 2 weeks.

What they mean would be a lot easier than how. It's a mathematical assessment of the accomplishments of teams to date. It's based on a 60-dimension fixed point iterative technique that takes both opponents and margins into account. It's all done in a simple spreadsheet. While I don't claim any predictive characteristics, it often turns out that after each team has played 6-8 games, it starts to pick winners of games fairly consistently.

So, for example, tonight Atlanta plays at Cleveland. Hawks away are at 21, Cleveland at home is at approximately 19, the Hawks should win by 2. If they don't, the system will make adjustments tomorrow. Wizards should beat the 76ers by 8; Pistons should beat the Celtics by 3; etc. Not enough games have been played so far for the system to be dependable, but it tends to get more dependable as the season goes on.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #121 on: November 02, 2010, 01:50:50 PM »
Makes sense, thanks.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #122 on: November 02, 2010, 05:48:09 PM »
Cool. I wish I was a betting man.

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« Reply #123 on: November 02, 2010, 06:40:51 PM »
I just got the Freedarko NBA history book, haven't had a chance to start reading, but it looks gorgeous. 

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2010, 09:21:17 AM »
I just got the Freedarko NBA history book, haven't had a chance to start reading, but it looks gorgeous.

I love that artwork. I wish they had some of them, especially that Jordan one, available in poster size.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2010, 01:37:33 PM »
OK, it's Monday.

Dave's super top secret NBA rankings look like this.

1 Los Angeles Lakers Home 59.7
2 Orlando Magic Home 56.6
3 Portland Trailblazers Away 53.9
4 Atlanta Hawks Away 49.8
5 Golden State Warriors Home 48.4
6 Miami Heat Home 48.1
7 Boston Celtics Home 46.1
8 Denver Nuggets Home 46.1
9 New Orleans Hornets Away 45.6
10 Dallas Mavericks Away 44.6
11 New Orleans Hornets Home 44
12 Denver Nuggets Away 44
13 Miami Heat Away 43.8
14 Portland Trailblazers Home 43.7
15 Boston Celtics Away 43.6
16 Chicago Bulls Home 43.5
17 Toronto Raptors Home 43.1
18 San Antonio Spurs Away 42.8
19 Los Angeles Lakers Away 42.4
20 New York Knicks Away 42.4
21 Indiana Pacers Home 41.3
22 San Antonio Spurs Home 40.4
23 Atlanta Hawks Home 40.2
24 Sacramento Kings Away 39.3
25 Washington Wizards Home 38.8
26 Minnesota Timberwolves Home 38.2
27 Cleveland Cavaliers Home 38
28 Charlotte Bobcats Home 37.8
29 Dallas Mavericks Home 37.6
30 Phoenix Suns Home 37.5
31 New York Knicks Home 37
32 Houston Rockets Away 36.7
33 Philadelphia 76ers Away 36.7
34 Cleveland Cavaliers Away 36.6
35 Milwaukee Bucks Home 36.2
36 Philadelphia 76ers Home 36.1
37 Memphis Grizzlies Home 35.9
38 Oklahoma City Thunder Away 35.6
39 Utah Jazz Home 35.6
40 Milwaukee Bucks Away 34.4
41 Utah Jazz Away 33.8
42 Detroit Pistons Home 33.7
43 Memphis Grizzlies Away 33.6
44 Chicago Bulls Away 33.5
45 Los Angeles Clippers Away 33.1
46 Sacramento Kings Home 33.1
47 New Jersey Nets Home 33
48 New Jersey Nets Away 32.7
49 Orlando Magic Away 32.6
50 Houston Rockets Home 32.4
51 Golden State Warriors Away 32.2
52 Detroit Pistons Away 31.9
53 Oklahoma City Thunder Home 31.4
54 Los Angeles Clippers Home 31.2
55 Charlotte Bobcats Away 27.2
56 Toronto Raptors Away 25.7
57 Indiana Pacers Away 25.3
58 Phoenix Suns Away 24.4
59 Washington Wizards Away 22.4
60 Minnesota Timberwolves Away 0


The road Timberwolves are really screwing it up; this won't hold, but if they continue on their current path, it could be the worst road team in NBA history.

Just for fun, let's try a round. Here's my picks for tonight.

Home favorites

Orlando over Atlanta by 8
Toronto over Golden St by 11
Memphis over Phoenix by 12

Road favorites

San Antonio at Charlotte by 5
Denver at Chicago by 1
Boston at Dallas by 6

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2010, 02:09:50 PM »

The road Timberwolves are really screwing it up; this won't hold, but if they continue on their current path, it could be the worst road team in NBA history.


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« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2010, 02:26:05 PM »
I'm so disappointed with how the Wolves are playing right now. I had high hopes and maybe things will change once Webster and Flynn come back but of all of the bad teams over the past 6 years this is the worst to watch. I watch a lot of NBA and watching a Wolves game and then watching any other two NBA teams are like watching two different sports.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #128 on: November 09, 2010, 12:27:05 AM »
Just for fun, let's try a round. Here's my picks for tonight.

Home favorites

Orlando over Atlanta by 8
Toronto over Golden St by 11
Memphis over Phoenix by 12

Road favorites

San Antonio at Charlotte by 5
Denver at Chicago by 1
Boston at Dallas by 6

3-3 but you were pretty close on a couple of the scores. GS beating Toronto by 7 was the only one way off.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #129 on: November 09, 2010, 08:18:52 AM »
Yah, so much for science. If I have time, I will try to put together tonight's picks.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #130 on: November 09, 2010, 08:48:36 AM »
Yah, so much for science.


You may want to try using intuition and comparing the results.

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« Reply #131 on: November 09, 2010, 03:21:43 PM »
Yah, so much for science.


You may want to try using intuition and comparing the results.

I have none of that.

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« Reply #132 on: November 09, 2010, 04:32:22 PM »
I'm not liking this new uptempo trend, especially for the Wolves. It creates more possesions, but ultimately all that it's really creating are bad shots. The 80's are taking over every other aspect of culture so I guess why not basketball as well?

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« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2010, 07:04:40 PM »
1 Los Angeles Lakers Home 59.7
60 Minnesota Timberwolves Away 0

Tonight!

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« Reply #134 on: November 09, 2010, 07:20:35 PM »
Kobe Bryant came close a couple years ago... he might just get 100 tonight. He was a different kind of player back then with a different attitude towards his teammates. But still. The Wolves D could be the worst defense of the past 20 years.