The NBA Thread

[dave from knoxville]

Weekly update

Jan 30
1 San Antonio Spurs Home 38
2 Chicago Bulls Home 34.3
3 Boston Celtics Home 31.9
4 Denver Nuggets Home 31.2
5 San Antonio Spurs Away 31.1
6 Miami Heat Away 29.7
7 New Orleans Hornets Home 28.5
8 Los Angeles Lakers Away 28.5
9 Dallas Mavericks Home 27.8
10 Orlando Magic Home 27.4
11 Dallas Mavericks Away 27.1
12 Miami Heat Home 26.7
13 Boston Celtics Away 26.1
14 Oklahoma City Thunder Home 26.1
15 Atlanta Hawks Away 26
16 Utah Jazz Home 25.1
17 Oklahoma City Thunder Away 24.5
18 Los Angeles Lakers Home 24.5
19 Orlando Magic Away 23.4
20 Memphis Grizzlies Home 23.4
21 Portland Trailblazers Home 22.9
22 Philadelphia 76ers Home 22.3
23 New Orleans Hornets Away 21.7
24 New York Knicks Away 21.6
25 Utah Jazz Away 21.5
26 Los Angeles Clippers Home 21.4
27 Milwaukee Bucks Home 20.5
28 Golden State Warriors Home 20
29 New York Knicks Home 19.9
30 Phoenix Suns Away 19.8
31 Houston Rockets Home 19.7
32 Phoenix Suns Home 19.6
33 Atlanta Hawks Home 19.2
34 Detroit Pistons Home 18.9
35 Denver Nuggets Away 18.8
36 Chicago Bulls Away 18.7
37 Charlotte Bobcats Home 18.5
38 New Jersey Nets Home 18.4
39 Portland Trailblazers Away 18.2
40 Milwaukee Bucks Away 17.6
41 Indiana Pacers Home 17.3
42 Houston Rockets Away 16.8
43 Washington Wizards Home 15.8
44 Memphis Grizzlies Away 15.3
45 Philadelphia 76ers Away 13.9
46 Minnesota Timberwolves Home 13.7
47 Indiana Pacers Away 13.4
48 Charlotte Bobcats Away 13.3
49 Golden State Warriors Away 12.4
50 Toronto Raptors Away 11.3
51 Los Angeles Clippers Away 11.2
52 Sacramento Kings Away 10.7
53 Toronto Raptors Home 10.7
54 Cleveland Cavaliers Home 9
55 Detroit Pistons Away 7.6
56 Minnesota Timberwolves Away 6.4
57 New Jersey Nets Away 6.2
58 Sacramento Kings Home 6.1
59 Cleveland Cavaliers Away 4.7
60 Washington Wizards Away 0

[jbissell]

60 Washington Wizards Away 0

Impressive

[buffcoat]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

[jbissell]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

Looks like the Bulls is the largest, around 16. Nuggets are 13.

[buffcoat]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

Looks like the Bulls is the largest, around 16. Nuggets are 13.

Read my post, dear jbissell.  The Clips have a 25-spot difference between home and away.

[jbissell]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

Looks like the Bulls is the largest, around 16. Nuggets are 13.

Read my post, dear jbissell.  The Clips have a 25-spot difference between home and away.

I thought you were talking about the numbers. Either way, the Bulls have a 34 spot difference.

[dave from knoxville]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

Looks like the Bulls is the largest, around 16. Nuggets are 13.

Read my post, dear jbissell.  The Clips have a 25-spot difference between home and away.

I thought you were talking about the numbers. Either way, the Bulls have a 34 spot difference.

Home Bulls are about 34; road Bulls are about 19. That's only 15.

[jbissell]

Do the Clips have the biggest differential between home and away?

Looks like the Bulls is the largest, around 16. Nuggets are 13.

Read my post, dear jbissell.  The Clips have a 25-spot difference between home and away.

I thought you were talking about the numbers. Either way, the Bulls have a 34 spot difference.

Home Bulls are about 34; road Bulls are about 19. That's only 15.

Right, that's what I said the first time and buffcoat said he was talking about the difference in overall rank. Home 2, Away 36

[dave from knoxville]

Ack! Not processing info properly these days.

[dave from knoxville]

Most of you don't seem too interested in college basketball, but I rank that too, and it takes lots more time (probably 5-7 hours per week), so humor me. I won't post it more than once a month, unless someone asks. In college this year, home court advantage seems to be worth 4 points.

1 Ohio State 42.2
2 Kansas 40.4
3 Pittsburgh 40.4
4 San Diego State 39.6
5 Duke 38.8
6 Texas 38.6
7 Brigham Young 38.6
8 Syracuse 38.3
9 Georgetown 37.7
10 Villanova 36.9
11 Connecticut 36.8
12 Purdue 36.6
13 Arizona 36.5
14 Utah State 36.1
15 Notre Dame 36
16 Louisville 35.5
17 George Mason 35.4
18 Florida 35.2
19 Cleveland State 35
20 North Carolina 34.9
21 Old Dominion 34.9
22 Kentucky 34.5
23 Cincinnati 34.4
24 West Virginia 34.3
25 Wisconsin 34
26 Texas A&M 34
27 UNLV 33.9
28 Missouri 33.8
29 Wichita State 33.8
30 Tennessee 33.8
31 Minnesota 33.3
32 Belmont 33
33 Vanderbilt 32.9
34 Temple 32.6
35 St. Mary's 32.6
36 Xavier 32.5
37 Illinois 32.4
38 Kansas State 32.3
39 Virginia Commonwealth 32
40 Washington 31.9
41 Georgia 31.9
42 Memphis 31.7
43 St. John's 31.6
44 Richmond 31.5
45 Florida State 31.5
46 Coastal Carolina 31.4
47 UCLA 31.4
48 Northern Iowa 31.3
49 Dayton 31.3
50 Oklahoma State 31
51 Virginia Tech 30.9
52 Missouri State 30.9
53 Boston College 30.8
54 Southern Miss 30.8
55 UAB 30.7
56 Texas-El Paso 30.7
57 Duquesne 30.6
58 Vermont 30.3
59 New Mexico 30.2
60 Marquette 30.2
61 Clemson 30.2
62 Colorado State 30.2
63 Harvard 30.1
64 Portland 30.1
65 Drexel 30
66 Washington State 29.9
67 Nebraska 29.6
68 Mississippi 29.6
69 Penn State 29.4
70 California 29.4
71 Michigan State 29.4
72 Maryland 29.3
73 Valparaiso 29.2
74 Fairfield 29.2
75 Baylor 29.1
76 Providence 29
77 College of Charleston 28.8
78 UCF 28.7
79 Gonzaga 28.7
80 Arkansas 28.6
81 James Madison 28.6
82 Princeton 28.5
83 Michigan 28.4
84 Oakland 28.4
85 Rhode Island 28.4
86 Marshall 28.4
87 Butler 28.3
88 Miami (Fla.) 28.3
89 Colorado 28
90 South Carolina 27.9
91 Hampton 27.8
92 Alabama 27.8
93 Florida Atlantic 27.8
94 Northwestern 27.6
95 Furman 27.5
96 Kent State 27.2
97 Massachusetts 27.1
98 Bucknell 27
99 LIU-Brooklyn 26.8
100 Hofstra 26.8
101 Southern California 26.7
102 North Carolina State 26.6
103 E. Tennessee State 26.6
104 Iowa State 26.5
105 Rutgers 26.4
106 Montana 26.4
107 Wright State 26.4
108 American 26.4
109 Tulsa 26
110 Buffalo 25.9
111 Quinnipiac 25.9
112 Rider 25.8
113 Indiana 25.5
114 Oklahoma 25.4
115 Evansville 25.4
116 Central Connecticut State 25.4
117 Seton Hall 25.4
118 Jacksonville 25.3
119 Murray State 25.3
120 Liberty 25.1
121 Virginia 25
122 Stanford 24.8
123 Santa Clara 24.8
124 Morehead State 24.7
125 Wisconsin-Milwaukee 24.6
126 Lipscomb 24.5
127 Maine 24.4
128 St. Bonaventure 24.4
129 Creighton 24.3
130 North Texas 24.3
131 Mississippi State 24.2
132 Texas Tech 24.1
133 IUPUI 24
134 Air Force 24
135 Columbia 23.9
136 Austin Peay 23.8
137 Hawaii 23.7
138 Long Beach State 23.6
139 Oregon 23.6
140 Iona 23.6
141 Wofford 23.6
142 Delaware 23.5
143 Miami (Ohio) 23.5
144 La Salle 23.5
145 Indiana State 23.3
146 Pacific 23.1
147 Georgia Tech 23.1
148 St. Peter's 23
149 Green Bay 22.9
150 Southern Methodist 22.9
151 East Carolina 22.8
152 IPFW 22.6
153 Akron 22.5
154 George Washington 22.3
155 Chattanooga 22.3
156 Detroit 22.3
157 Utah 22.2
158 McNeese State 22.2
159 Loyola-Maryland 22.2
160 Pennsylvania 22.2
161 New Mexico State 22
162 TCU 22
163 Ball State 22
164 Charlotte 21.9
165 San Francisco 21.8
166 Wagner 21.8
167 Loyola-Chicago 21.8
168 Northern Arizona 21.7
169 Arizona State 21.7
170 South Florida 21.7
171 Santa Barbara 21.7
172 Northern Colorado 21.6
173 Boise State 21.6
174 Rice 21.6
175 Western Michigan 21.5
176 South Dakota State 21.4
177 Ohio 21.3
178 Morgan State 21.3
179 NC-Wilmington 21.3
180 UMKC 21.2
181 NC-Asheville 21.2
182 Tulane 21
183 Yale 21
184 Nicholls State 21
185 LSU 21
186 Houston 20.9
187 Arkansas-Little Rock 20.8
188 Southern Illinois 20.8
189 Lehigh 20.8
190 Idaho 20.8
191 Denver 20.8
192 Jackson State 20.6
193 Saint Louis 20.5
194 Iowa 20.4
195 San Jose State 20.4
196 Davidson 20.3
197 Robert Morris 20.3
198 Bethune-Cookman 20.3
199 Weber State 20.2
200 Northeastern 20.2
201 Boston University 20.2
202 Western Kentucky 20.2
203 Oregon State 20
204 Siena 19.9
205 North Florida 19.8
206 Middle Tennessee 19.7
207 Texas Southern 19.6
208 Canisius 19.6
209 Stephen F. Austin 19.6
210 Bowling Green 19.6
211 Texas-San Antonio 19.4
212 Georgia State 19.4
213 Sam Houston State 19.3
214 North Dakota State 19.3
215 Oral Roberts 19.2
216 Campbell 19
217 Southeastern Louisiana 19
218 Army 18.8
219 Winthrop 18.8
220 Coppin State 18.7
221 Drake 18.6
222 Illinois State 18.6
223 Tennessee Tech 18.5
224 Presbyterian 18.5
225 Fresno State 18.5
226 Wake Forest 18.5
227 Arkansas State 18.5
228 VMI 18.5
229 Charleston Southern 18.4
230 Louisiana Tech 18.3
231 Utah Valley 18.2
232 Western Carolina 18.1
233 Northwestern State 18.1
234 Nevada 18
235 DePaul 17.9
236 Montana State 17.9
237 Cal Poly 17.9
238 Appalachian State 17.8
239 Brown 17.7
240 Tennessee State 17.6
241 Albany 17.5
242 New Hampshire 17.3
243 Delaware State 17.3
244 St. Francis (N.Y.) 17.2
245 Alabama A&M 17.2
246 Portland State 17.2
247 Texas-Arlington 17.1
248 Eastern Kentucky 17
249 Samford 17
250 South Alabama 17
251 Mississippi Valley State 16.9
252 North Carolina Central 16.7
253 Wyoming 16.6
254 North Dakota 16.4
255 California Irvine 16.3
256 Youngstown State 16.3
257 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 16.3
258 Elon 16.3
259 Cal State Bakersfield 16.2
260 Stony Brook 16.2
261 The Citadel 16.2
262 Sacred Heart 16.2
263 William & Mary 16.2
264 North Carolina A&T 16.2
265 Florida International 15.9
266 New Orleans 15.8
267 Fordham 15.8
268 High Point 15.7
269 Saint Joseph's 15.7
270 California Riverside 15.7
271 Pepperdine 15.7
272 Bradley 15.6
273 Auburn 15.4
274 Cal State Fullerton 15.3
275 Dartmouth 15.3
276 South Dakota 15.3
277 Northern Illinois 15.3
278 Mount St. Mary's 15.2
279 Norfolk State 15.1
280 St. Francis (Pa.) 15.1
281 Texas State-San Marcos 15
282 Cornell 14.9
283 Lafayette 14.9
284 Illinois-Chicago 14.8
285 Mercer 14.8
286 California Davis 14.7
287 Hartford 14.6
288 Loyola-Marymount 14.5
289 Lamar 14
290 Florida Gulf Coast 13.9
291 Northridge 13.7
292 Eastern Illinois 13.5
293 Bryant University 13.5
294 Louisiana-Lafayette 13.3
295 Towson 13.3
296 Central Michigan 13.1
297 NC-Greensboro 12.8
298 New Jersey Tech 12.8
299 Monmouth 12.6
300 Navy 12.5
301 Idaho State 12.4
302 Savannah State 12.4
303 Southern Utah 12.4
304 Gardner-Webb 12.1
305 Stetson 12.1
306 Binghamton 12
307 Troy 11.9
308 Tennessee-Martin 11.7
309 Western Illinois 11.5
310 Florida A&M 11.4
311 Eastern Washington 11.3
312 Eastern Michigan 11.2
313 Radford 11.1
314 Howard 11.1
315 Holy Cross 11
316 San Diego 11
317 Longwood 11
318 Colgate 10.8
319 Toledo 10.6
320 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 10.4
321 Prairie View A&M 10.4
322 South Carolina State 10.3
323 Marist 10.2
324 Manhattan 10.1
325 Alabama State 10
326 Niagara 10
327 Maryland-Eastern Shore 9.8
328 Sacramento State 9.8
329 Central Arkansas 9.7
330 South Carolina Upstate 9.6
331 Maryland-Baltimore County 9.6
332 Alcorn State 9.5
333 Chicago State 9.3
334 Kennesaw State 9.3
335 Fairleigh Dickinson 9.3
336 Southeast Missouri State 9
337 Louisiana-Monroe 8.4
338 Southern 7.5
339 Grambling 7.1
340 Jacksonville State 6.5
341 Houston Baptist 5.8
342 Georgia Southern 5.8
343 Texas-Pan American 4
344 Centenary 0

[buffcoat]

UNC's loss to Vanderbilt seems much more defensible (20 vs 33).  Their 20-point loss at Georgia Tech (147) is as inexplicable now as it was the day it happened.

[buffcoat]

PS I didn't realize the Gentlemen were having such a tough campaign.

[dave from knoxville]

UNC's loss to Vanderbilt seems much more defensible (20 vs 33).  Their 20-point loss at Georgia Tech (147) is as inexplicable now as it was the day it happened.

Did you actually know that Vandy is "my team", or is this coincidental? Because I am a little freaked out right now.

[buffcoat]

UNC's loss to Vanderbilt seems much more defensible (20 vs 33).  Their 20-point loss at Georgia Tech (147) is as inexplicable now as it was the day it happened.

Did you actually know that Vandy is "my team", or is this coincidental? Because I am a little freaked out right now.

No, it's a coincidence, Knoxville: the man I pay to follow you around hadn't figured that out yet.*


UNC is my team; Vandy seemed like their most incomprehensible loss, so I went there first, but your table indicates that the Ga. Tech loss was far more of an abberation.

Now that Larry Drew (II) is gone, because Larry Drew (I) told him to leave (hey, kid, at some point you have to make your own decisions and stop letting daddy tell you what to do) I expect UNC to get better once they've adjusted to not having him.  The team this year is much better than last due to some addition by subtraction, which is a big deal in basketball.

Leaders don't emerge when the players who are supposed to be leaders can't do it but are still there.





* Again, why even type these things?  I don't pay anyone to follow anyone around.

[dave from knoxville]

I am pretty sure that I have mentioned that I grew up in Nashville. My parents had season tickets to Vandy basketball starting when I was 6 0r 7. I figure I have seen at least 200 games there.

NC has played their way back into a 4 or 5 seed, so I can't say their season is a disaster, but I am hurt that you thought/think a loss to Vandy is incomprehensible. They've had a top 25 RPI 7 of the last 10 years. They were in the Elite Eight back in the 90's, and have made the Sweet Sixteen 3 times in the last 10 years. Maybe nobody outside of and SEC circle knows about them, but they've been good since I was a child, outside of a few isolated seasons.

The only North Carolina loss that makes sense is Texas; Vandy's better than Illinois. The ACC sucks this year.

Have I driven everyone away yet?