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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #315 on: April 13, 2011, 08:30:00 AM »
I feel pretty good about my preseason predictions...

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Miami v. Chicago (East finals)
Lakers v. OK City (West finals)
Miami over Lakers (Finals)

If you feel good about that, you should consult a priest. Your basketball instincts may be dead on, but there's a hole in your soul.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #316 on: April 13, 2011, 10:51:46 AM »
Blake Griffin was actually not terrible on Norm MacDonald's Sports Show last night.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #317 on: April 13, 2011, 03:01:59 PM »
I feel pretty good about my preseason predictions...

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Miami v. Chicago (East finals)
Lakers v. OK City (West finals)
Miami over Lakers (Finals)

If you feel good about that, you should consult a priest. Your basketball instincts may be dead on, but there's a hole in your soul.

Maybe, but it would be a pretty entertaining playoffs if it plays out this way.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #318 on: April 13, 2011, 08:54:32 PM »
Lebron makes one error in judgement and he's the villain of the NBA. At least he's a likable guy with some redeeming qualities which is much more than can be said about Kobe. I don't know maybe I'm comparing two evils, but at least I enjoy watching Lebron play.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #319 on: April 14, 2011, 09:54:02 AM »
Lebron makes one error in judgement and he's the villain of the NBA. At least he's a likable guy with some redeeming qualities which is much more than can be said about Kobe. I don't know maybe I'm comparing two evils, but at least I enjoy watching Lebron play.

LeBron's a self-obsessed ass who would rather play on an AAU all-star team as opposed to have his own team built around him. It's not his fault that the Cavs GM's sucked but he's still took the douche way out. That's Dwayne Wade's team and LeBron took the easy way out.

Kobe's a douche but the Lakers are his team. And even though it may have been a bit too press friendly, Kobe was in the Heat's own gym for a few hours after the Lakers lost to the Heat while LeBron went out to make deals to get an ownership stake in a British soccer team.

I'm not much of a Sixers fan, since they're generally the least fan-friendly organization possible. Tickets are more expensive than Phillies games, which are now next-to-impossible to go to yet the Sixers draw 9,000 a night and their mascot Hip Hop (an x-treme rabbit) looks like he will rape a member of the dance squad. But I am 100000% on the Sixers bandwagon to beat the Heat.

I can even live with the Celtics beating the Heat, and I detest all Boston sports teams, having lived there for three years (BOSTON: The city that everyone thinks is this blue-collar, salt-of-the-earth charming burg where everyone has accents but is actually filled with the worst yuppie rich kids and is also responsible for the career of Ben Affleck.)
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #320 on: April 14, 2011, 10:38:04 AM »
The teams I am rooting for to win the championship, in order:

1) OKC -- Kevin Durant will always rank as one of my favorite players because of his understated Twitter announcement of signing a long-term deal w/ the most unlikely city in the US to have a sports franchise. They have the best fans in the NBA. Russell Westbrook is one of the most exciting players in years. They have a guy named Thabo. They have a very enjoyable cast of role players. And they made the best trade of the year when they rooked Perkins from the Celts.

2) DENVER -- They have an awesome "Major League" kind of feel to them right now. They got rid of a moody, overrated "superstar" and instead became a very deep team that has a lot of fun players. I still think they have more than their fair share of headcases (J.R. Smith, K-Mart, The Birdman) but they have that awesome wildcard feel to them.

3) SIXERS -- Just because they're my de facto hometown team. If they take the Heat to 7 games (and they don't have anyone nearly as good as LeBron/Wade or even Cotton Bosh, but they're a lot deeper), then I can see a rebirth of the NBA in Philly. People who didn't live in Philly during Iverson's big run don't believe me when I tell them that the Sixers OWNED that city for a good two years. Their finals run was just absolutely nuts -- Sixers flags flew all over the city. Philly's a sleeper of a basketball town (five D-1 teams in the city and Villanova's right outside). I can see this getting fun.

4) PORTLAND -- The most snakebitten team but one that has absolutely come together in the face of their adversity. Aldridge is the most underrated player in the league. B-Roy will always be one of my favorite players to watch -- he's like basketball's Greg Maddux in terms of mixing in really weird "offspeed" things to his game. Awesome crowds. That city's a little too hipster-y for my tastes, but I liked the six Portlandia sketches that I saw.

5) SAN ANTONIO -- I should rank the Spurs higher because I think they play the most aesthetically pleasing form of basketball right now. Their Big 3 "play the right way" if you want to throw out an obnoxious cliche. Manu's such an incredibly fun player to watch that, for some reason, a lot of people hate. Matt Bonner makes those hilarious, bizarre "Coach B" videos. DeJuan Blair is somehow only in his second year in the league but seems like he's been playing for eight years. Pop does the best sideline interviews in basketball. But I can't root for Gary Neal -- he was involved at a sex scandal at my alma mater which destroyed the basketball program for a few years. He was a 19-year-old kid who did some horrible things and seems to have grown from it, but it's still a sore spot for me ten years later.

6) CHICAGO -- I don't see how anyone cam make a case against D-Rose as being the MVP of the league. He carried the Bulls to the #1 seed in the east. I now Boozer/Deng/Noah are good but they're not THAT good. They don't win the East if you have Chris Paul, D-Wil, Nash, Rondo or Westbrook running the point. He also seems like a really good guy and he's been a joy to watch all year. I also really love watching Noah play and have since he was on Florida. Just the perfect example of a guy who knows how to win -- he was obviously going to be a great glue guy on a playoff team when he came out yet somehow ended up as the ninth pick in the 2007 draft, two spots behind Yi Jianlian.

7) DALLAS -- Dirk might be the most underrated player of my lifetime. He's one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen and is the definition of consistent. He'll always take crap for choking against Golden State the year he won MVP and for not winning the finals that year but I'd love to see him get some redemption. He's also so ridiculously bizarre -- his Locke-style "walkabout" after choking away the title; the fact he almost got married to a career con woman until his live-in "guru" ran a background check on her, etc. But I don't care about anyone else on that team.

8) ORLANDO -- Dwight Howard's a great player, although I think he's a bit overrated since blocking shots out of bounds is pretty silly. Stan Van Gundy is a pretty entertaining person. And I'll always love Jameer Nelson since he went to St. Joe's which is pretty much the same exact school as La Salle. I saw him play in person about six times and can't stress enough that he was the absolute best college point guard possible. But aside from that they're not that likable.

9) KNICKS -- I grew up as a Knicks fan (living right outside the city) but my feelings for the New York sports teams I loved as a kid have waned since I moved to the superior Philadelphia region (for the most part) in 1995. Anthony Mason, John Starks and pre-Bulls Oakley rank as three of my childhood heroes -- right up there with "Nature Boy" Ric Flair, "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert, Evan Dando and the Kids in the Hall. I like Amare (and his dabblings with Judaism) and I think Chauncey's terrific. But I am not a fan of Melo at all or his obnoxious wife. And the fact that I am a spurned ex-employee of the MSG family doesn't help things, either. Still, an excited NYC for basketball is a ton of fun and my brother's an obsessive fan, so I can't quite hate them.

10) NEW ORLEANS -- Largely because I love Chris Paul and you can't help but pull for any New Orleans team just because.

11) MEMPHIS -- Somehow sneaking into the playoffs. I had Zach Randolph on a few fantasy teams the past few years so I have that bond with him. But aside from that, I don't really care about this team.

12) INDIANA -- Indiana deserves to have a good basketball team every single year just because it's such a great basketball state and Hoosiers is quite possibly my favorite all-time movie.

13) THE CELTICS -- I detest any Boston sports team for the reasons listed above (Boston's reputation is a fraud) and Kevin Garnett is a bully and they've won a lot. The "Red on Roundball" video series, though, prevents them from being my most hated team. I actually kind of have a hero worship of Red Auerbach in this bizarre way -- he was probably the first "heel" sports figure with the whole pompous cigar smoking routine and, once, even had the governor of Massachusetts light his cigar for him after winning the championship. That's just AWESOME and he managed to hoodwink the entire NBA for decades. But he's dead.

14) THE LAKERS -- They represent everything I hate about life -- annoying celebrity bandwagon fans, etc. I also absolutely detest Phil Jackson and his dippy Zen routine to the core of my soul. There's Pau Gasol and PAU DOUBLE, who I talked about on our podcast. And I have a bizarre relationship with Kobe. Kobe was going to go to La Salle (his dad was the assistant coach when he was in high school) but instead decided to go to the NBA, thus depriving me of a college experience that was truly awesome aside from the fact we had a crappy basketball team. There's the sex abuse thing. There's his general obnoxiousness. But you know what? I respect the hell out of him because he's such an insanely hard worker and will literally do ANYTHING to win a basketball game. He's kind of like Pearl Jam -- I'm not a fan of their music but they're one of the biggest bands of all-time despite hiding away from the media and fighting Ticketmaster and stuff like that.

15) ATLANTA -- Atlanta's just a dreadful sports town that really doesn't deserve to have four franchises. They call their arena the "Highlight Factory" which makes no sense since highlights aren't constantly repeated in the same exact manner.

16) MIAMI -- Duh.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #321 on: April 14, 2011, 03:28:02 PM »
I wouldn't say I'm rooting for Miami, but I do enjoy watching them play. There are a lot of other teams that would make for a great story and would be just as fun. I hope it's not Miami/Lakers (although I think it will be), but Miami/any other team in the West would be a fun finals to watch.

As far as rooting for? I'd put them in this order.

1) OKC - I'd love to see Durant take the throne of the NBA's elite player
2) CHICAGO - I became a basketball fan because of the Bulls and expansion to MN... but mostly the Bulls.
3) DENVER- Great story.
4) PORTLAND - Same reason as you. So many things have gone wrong for this team and it would be awesome to see them win it all.
5) DALLAS - Just to see what Cuban would do.
6) MEMPHIS - Someday the Wolves will be able to turn the tables too....
7) MIAMI - Exciting basketball.
8) ORLANDO- I don't really have strong feelings about Orlando or the next teams.
9) PHILLY
10) INDIANA
11) ATLANTA
12) SAN ANTONIO- Don't enjoy watching them play, but definitely one of the best run teams in pro sports.
13) KNICKS - Just the opposite of SA, one of the worst run teams in pro sports and it would be different if it were a small market team just making poor decisions but I don't want to see them succeed the way they've tried to win.
14) NEW ORLEANS - This is Chris Paul's team and I'm never a fan of one player being the team. If they win it's still his team, if they lose he bolts. Gross.
13) THE CELTICS - I admire KG's hard work, but even as a Wolf I never really got excited watching him play. Watching him win is even worse.
14) THE LAKERS- Don't care about his work ethic, Kobe is just not a good person. Can't root for that.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #322 on: April 14, 2011, 04:20:34 PM »
11) MEMPHIS -- Somehow sneaking into the playoffs. I had Zach Randolph on a few fantasy teams the past few years so I have that bond with him. But aside from that, I don't really care about this team.

I don't think it's fair to characterize them as "sneaking" into the playoffs. They finished 10 games over .500 and they'd be the 5th seed in the East. I don't think they'll beat the Spurs but I definitely think they'll give them a fight and maybe even win 2 games.

My rooting interests go something like this

1. Bulls. On twitter, Tom mentioned that the most annoying thing about a potential Bulls run would be all the bandwagoners. I couldn't agree more. Last year, when the Blackhawks won the Cup it was a joke how many people suddenly gave a shit. I don't think it'll be quite that bad since they've made the playoffs more often than not in the last half decade but this is the first time they've been legit contenders since '98.

2. OKC. They're my #2 for all of the reasons that have already been cited.

3./4. Portland/Denver. Both would be great stories. Denver has become a very entertaining offensive team. I didn't watch them much before the trade, but I've somehow caught a bunch of Nuggets games over the last 2 months and enjoyed watching them, especially the OKC games. It's too bad they're playing each other in the 1st round, though it should be a fun series.

5. Sixers. If they play the Bulls in round 2, I'd actually be pretty worried. They're a matchup nightmare. Plus it just seems right when Philly and New York have good teams.

6. Spurs. Far less boring than past Spurs teams.

Indifferent
Hornets/Knicks/Memphis/Mavs/Pacers/Magic

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13. Hawks. I don't like them because I've seen them just roll over and die, even at home, way too many times the last few years. Al Horford deserves better. I think they have the ability to beat Orlando, but I don't think they even care.
14. Celtics. Fuck Rondo.
15. Lakers. Even though I'm not a Phil hater.
16. Heat. I'm still terrified that they're going to have some storybook ending to this season.

First Round predictions
Bulls 4-1
Heat 4-1
Magic 4-2
Celtics 4-2
Spurs 4-2
Lakers 4-0
Blazers 4-2
OKC 4-3

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #323 on: April 15, 2011, 02:15:51 AM »
The only way I'd be happy with the Lakers are in the finals is if the Bulls are there too and the Bulls win. I don't dislike Phil Jackson. I think he's a good guy, has a lot of good quotes and isn't afraid to say what needs to be said. But, I really wish at one point in his career he would have taken on a real challenge. You can't hate him for that though because there aren't many people who wouldn't have taken the same exact road. You just wonder how good he really was and what he could have done with a team that never got it done. Would he have been able to lead the Mavs or the Suns to multiple titles? I don't expect a coach of his caliber to take on a rebuilding project but I really wish he would have given a team that was close but not quite there a shot.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #324 on: April 16, 2011, 03:59:32 PM »
Wow, the Bulls had no business winning that game. Rose's and-1 at the end was just plain ridiculous.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #325 on: April 18, 2011, 01:30:29 AM »
OKC/Denver is going to RULE. Those two teams match up really well. OKC has its two offensive stars -- both quickly becoming "Best of Their Generation" type players -- and a bunch of great roleplayers. Denver's one of the most versatile teams ever where every part works perfectly with the others. They're the new Detroit Pistons but with really likable players and really fun to watch, as opposed to painful.

I really want this to go seven games.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #326 on: April 18, 2011, 08:01:15 AM »
Chris Paul's performance yesterday was amazing.  It seemed as if New Orleans had no shot at scoring if he wasn't directly involved in the play. 

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #327 on: April 18, 2011, 12:55:18 PM »
I had a bad feeling that the Celtics would come back and defeat the Knicks. I don't see how the Knicks can recover from such a deflating loss. The series will be over in 5 games max.

It also didn't help that Carmelo Anthony chose the worst time to play one of his worst games.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #328 on: April 18, 2011, 12:59:36 PM »
I had a bad feeling that the Celtics would come back and defeat the Knicks. I don't see how the Knicks can recover from such a deflating loss. The series will be over in 5 games max.

It also didn't help that Carmelo Anthony chose the worst time to play one of his worst games.

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Much like Derek Jeter, there's never a bad time for Carmelo Anthony to play one of his worse games.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #329 on: April 20, 2011, 03:30:52 PM »
I know we were all listening to The Best Show last night but that Knicks game was awesome last night. I'm not a Melo fan by any means but he really brought it last night (save for his dumbass play at the end where he didn't foul Delonte). The Celtics are just a better team -- they've got guys who can make plays all over the court whereas the Knicks have Jared Jeffries.

I still think the Perk trade is going to kill them. Big Baby has been pretty brutal getting those minutes and I wouldn't count on either Shaq or Jermaine to put on their warm-up suits without pulling a hamstring at this point.

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