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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #765 on: May 31, 2012, 03:04:50 PM »
I don't have a problem with veteran players buying their way out of trades that doom them to horrible teams when the window is closing on them. So I can't fault Fisher, who has always seemed like a decent guy, even though he played on teams that I didn't like.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #766 on: June 04, 2012, 01:23:57 AM »
The Western Conference Finals has been awesome. San Antonio has looked absolutely amazing. The Thunder have grown up in response. Just an awesome series and a complete thrill to watch.

The Eastern Conference Finals have been terrible. Miami and Boston aren't quite lousy but they're nowhere near as excellent as the West. The only guy worth watching is Rondo (and his fascinating relationship with Doris Berke). I've learned to hate Wade these past few weeks. What a total crybaby he's become. He's somehow more irritating to watch than Paul Pierce.

I'm so numb to LBJ right now. There's nothing he can do that will make anyone happy. People on Twitter were giving him crap for passing to an open Shane Battier while he was being triple teamed at the end of regulation. He dug his own grave with the "Not five, not six but..." live after The Decision. But it's tiresome.

The ESPN nimrods were ripping on Spolestra after this game and said he drew up a bad play at the end of OT. Wade completely shook off the play and went looking for his shot. And, instead of driving (and being a guy who has pretty much gotten every call he's ever looked for), he decided to take an off-balance three pointer when he shoots less than 30% from deep.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #767 on: June 05, 2012, 10:10:11 AM »
I said before that I thought the Spurs looked like one of the Top 15 teams of all-time. Tom has given me guff on Twitter about this. But after winning 20 in a row and putting on the clinic of clinics in Game 2, I thought I was on the right track.

I will admit to being wrong (albeit the series is far from over). And I will say that I am GLADLY wrong because I love OKC like every other right-minded basketball fan. The kids are learning to, in the parlance of Larry Brown, play the right way. They always have but relied a lot on isos and other forms of simple basketball. But they've looked really transcendent the past three games. I really think this could be the start of a few years of amazing basketball.

The only problem they have is finding KD at key moments. In Game 4, they didn't and he did what Dirk did last season, only arguably better. But Russell and Harden are both more than capable of hitting big shots as well. Finding that end-of-game balance is the end game for them. Once they get that down, then there's an incredible team in the making. And their "Core Four" (when you count Ibaka) are all under 24 . YIKES!
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #768 on: June 05, 2012, 03:31:45 PM »
Sorry, Greggulator. The Spurs could win this series and they would've removed themselves from your debate. No Top 15 All-Time Team would lose three in a row like that.



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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #769 on: June 05, 2012, 04:05:39 PM »
Sorry, Greggulator. The Spurs could win this series and they would've removed themselves from your debate. No Top 15 All-Time Team would lose three in a row like that.

I agree with that. But if they sneak past OKC and win the whole thing, that shows the "resiliency of a champion" that Rick Reilly will love.

These are two fantastic basketball teams.

I will be so incredibly pissed if the dregs of the East win this thing.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #770 on: June 05, 2012, 05:49:42 PM »
I'm very concerned about what Rick Reilly is going to think of things.

And yes, this series is far from over. The Spurs could very well still win it all. But the legendary status of this team has now been tossed out the window.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #771 on: June 05, 2012, 11:35:44 PM »
4 of the 5 ECF games have been wildly fun.


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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #772 on: June 06, 2012, 11:16:51 AM »
Make that 5 out of 6.

I really hate rooting for the Celtics. Since I grew up in an Irish-Catholic neighborhood in North Jersey, I was surrounded by Celtics fans who were attached to the nickname and also racist and attached themselves to a team led by white guys. I lived in Boston for a bit of the Antoine Walker era (more like the Jiri Welsh era) and remember quite well more than a few games with less than 10,000 in attendance. Since I hated a lot of the people I grew up with, and the "Boston is America's best sports city" is a total lie, I hate that franchise.

The C's do get some points, though. Even though Red Auerbach was one of the all-time great sports villains, the teams' best player was an outspoken African-American playing in a then very racist area. And he invented fast-break basketball. Also, I love the way Rajan Rondo plays, and Doc Rivers seems like a good dude, even though the rest of that team is comprised of some truly hatable people.

But I looove what they’re doing to Miami. Miami was at their absolute worst last night. I remember at the local courts growing up the times when the really good players would all play on the same team against us scrubs just to try and humiliate us. And they’d always have one guy who would net-hang. And they’d call the most Mickey Mouse fouls. The Heat are exactly that. And not that the Celtics are scrubs or a rootable group of ragtag castoffs, but the Heat just want everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

I loved Van Gundy calling out Wade for whining to the refs instead of getting back to play defense. Good for him. He’s great, even though his partner’s grotesque.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #773 on: June 06, 2012, 11:17:55 AM »
And screw LBJ and Wade for skipping out on the press conference. Instead, they threw Bosh out there. He played 14 minutes and had some person die at his house 24 hours earlier.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #774 on: June 06, 2012, 12:28:28 PM »
That the Heat still stop and complain instead of getting back in transition AFTER getting called out by Rondo on it days ago is mind boggling.


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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #775 on: June 06, 2012, 02:17:38 PM »
I'm officially retiring from picking playoff series until the 2014 playoffs. I can't get over how many times this year has flipped my 20+ years of dedicated NBA viewing/knowledge (well, semi-confirmed biases) on its head.

I'm so mad at the Heat. I hate rooting for that group of ess-hit heads, but, as a Laker die-hard, I can never root for Boston. In fact, I can't root for any of that city's teams.

At least I have the Kings. As in LA Kings. As in hockey. The *other* Spring playoff sport.
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« Reply #776 on: June 06, 2012, 02:20:05 PM »
It is the time to say that I really like Kevin Garnett.  Not the nicest guy, but I believe him when he says he takes his basketball seriously.  He and Allen and Pierce have made their run last years beyond when most people predicted it would.  Contrast that with the Heat, who are imploding after two years (and not five and not six and not seven).
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #777 on: June 06, 2012, 02:28:27 PM »
True, even I'll admit that Boston's Big Four play harder and are mentally tougher than the Lakers and maybe even the Spurs (we'll see tonight).

Garnett kinda reminds me of a pitcher who cruises through the regular  season to a good, but not great, record of 16-10 3.40 era, but then turns into a 7-0 1.30 super ace come playoff time.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #778 on: June 06, 2012, 03:08:23 PM »
I really hate rooting for the Celtics. Since I grew up in an Irish-Catholic neighborhood in North Jersey, I was surrounded by Celtics fans who were attached to the nickname and also racist and attached themselves to a team led by white guys.

I love the way Rajan Rondo plays, and Doc Rivers seems like a good dude, even though the rest of that team is comprised of some truly hatable people.

But I looove what they’re doing to Miami. .

I can't blame you. If I weren't from here no way would I like Boston sports or Boston fans (or Boston sports radio) but I am and I do like the C's and the Pats (and that's it).  During the C's/Phil. playoffs Cs fans at the [insert corporate name] Garden were chanting "Sca-la-bri-ni" - the former C's backbencher who was white, has red hair and was most popular on the team amongst the bridge and tunnel crowd. Not that hard to guess why.  Shameful. Ignomnious. 

With that said, Go Celtics. If only for Doc Rivers to get deserved recognition for the job he's done for this franchise.  And even though Garnett's supposed to be "yeah he's an asshole but he's our asshole", I'll never forgive him for taunting Charlie Villanueva as "a cancer patient".  Fuck that guy. Just win it and go away.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #779 on: June 06, 2012, 03:12:44 PM »
I'm a pretty serious Celtics fan and honestly feel like I've come to grips with the end of the KG/Allen/PP run about a dozen times already over the past few years, and then they go and go farther than I could have imagined every year. Every playoff series win since KG hurt his knee has been gravy. Similar feelings towards Rondo, too. He always plays above the ceiling I've imagined for him in the playoffs.

To my eye, Garnett has been a bit more "Good Intense" than "Obnoxious Taunting" this year. I could be biased.

Hope they close it on Thursday. I thought they'd make it 6 games max without Bradley.