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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #915 on: June 06, 2013, 11:32:55 AM »
    Spurs in 7


  I just saw Steven a. Smith on espn give his prediction ( also Spurs in 7) and he seemed genuinely in pain trying to decide.

 
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #916 on: June 07, 2013, 09:31:15 AM »
Tony Parker spin move! Wow.  I still love the Heat losing.

Separately, what is with all the NBA coaches getting canned this year?  And how is one of them not named D'Antoni.  I think it's going to make a for weird season next year.   Karl fired after that season? (Please open your pocket books for that guy, Mr. Grizzlies owners.)  Lionel Hollins takes Grizzlies to the conference finals and he's persona au gratin?  PJ did a hell of a good job in Brooklyn and he's out.  Strange.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #917 on: June 07, 2013, 11:43:42 AM »
The Hollins incident is really interesting and touches on the new emphasis a lot of teams are putting on analytics. The Grizzlies have a new owner who hired John Hollinger, the ESPN writer who brought analytics to a mainstream audience, and a few other math geeks. They pushed for the trade of Rudy Gay which a lot of people panned at the time but the analytics community thinks he's one of the most overrated players in the league. But what's really interesting -- you don't need spreadsheets to see this. You don't really need to see anything more than "This dude takes a TON of shots and shoots 40% and is an average defensive player at best. We have a bunch of really good offensive players who could use more shots who are also terrific defenders."

Hollins was really vocal against the Rudy trade. I think a lot of that does come from issues of chemistry and cohesiveness. The Grizzlies certainly do have that and taking out a key cog might screw that up. But they ended up a lot better w/o Gay taking 15 plus shots a game.

Daryl Morey and the Rockets get credit for being at the vanguard of this movement. But it's not as revolutionary as when Moneyball swept baseball. Red Auerbach might not have used algebraic formations when building a team but he was cagey enough to get Bill Russell (who a lot of teams didn't trust) and realized that the easiest way to get points at the time was via fast breaks, so he pushed the pace more than any team ever had in history.

The Spurs also have been doing this stuff for ages. They got the best player of his era, did a great job scouting overseas and nailed the Tony Parker and Manu picks, and filled in the rest with a neverending string of unhearlded bench players who fit needed roles.

That's sort of what basketball boils down to. You have to get a great player to build around, get one or two other good players, and fill out the rest at fair prices. The NBA's salary cap is so cruel that signing one player to a shitty contract (see: Sixers, Elton Brand) destroys your team, unless you're the Mavs and willing to go over the cap.

As far as George Karl goes -- I think that guy is super overrated. His track record speaks for itself. He got into one finals with a loaded Sonics team. And I'll give him credit for having that one Bucks team make the Eastern finals, but then they ran into Allen Iverson. Aside from that, he's had a bunch of bad playoff runs (including being the first 1 to lose to an 8) and also coached one of those dreadful US national teams to some horrible place that they should have dominated.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #918 on: June 07, 2013, 11:46:54 AM »
Agree!!! Tony Parker spin move was awesome!

   Has anybody noticed how much better commercials staring basketball stars are compared too commercials staring football stars? For example, the Chris Paul/Cliff Paul commercial always makes me smile, but every commercial I've seen starring Drew Brees sucks fudge.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #919 on: June 07, 2013, 12:50:30 PM »
Aside from that, he's had a bunch of bad playoff runs (including being the first 1 to lose to an 8) and also coached one of those dreadful US national teams to some horrible place that they should have dominated.
It's really inexcusable to lose to an emoticon.

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« Reply #920 on: June 07, 2013, 01:03:28 PM »
Aside from that, he's had a bunch of bad playoff runs (including being the first 1 to lose to an 8) and also coached one of those dreadful US national teams to some horrible place that they should have dominated.
It's really inexcusable to lose to an emoticon.

That's not fair. That emoticon was ranked pretty high according to Dave from Knoxville's database.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #921 on: June 07, 2013, 03:48:08 PM »
Aside from that, he's had a bunch of bad playoff runs (including being the first 1 to lose to an 8) and also coached one of those dreadful US national teams to some horrible place that they should have dominated.
It's really inexcusable to lose to an emoticon.

That's not fair. That emoticon was ranked pretty high according to Dave from Knoxville's database.
I'd like to see this database.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #922 on: June 07, 2013, 04:59:37 PM »
Aside from that, he's had a bunch of bad playoff runs (including being the first 1 to lose to an 8) and also coached one of those dreadful US national teams to some horrible place that they should have dominated.
It's really inexcusable to lose to an emoticon.

That's not fair. That emoticon was ranked pretty high according to Dave from Knoxville's database.
I'd like to see this database.

Go back one page on this thread.  That emoticon is no slouch--top 10!

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #923 on: June 07, 2013, 07:37:57 PM »
In fact, it was number 8) oh hell.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #924 on: November 07, 2013, 10:58:13 AM »
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/230608/Woodson-Privately-Questions-Knicks-Roster-Given-Dolans-Win-Now-Edict

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Woodson has been willing to go along with Dolan's ways such as having a Garden employee follow him everywhere he goes, including when meeting with family and friends outside the locker room on a road trip.
Dolan is such an oddball. Poor Knicks.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #925 on: November 12, 2013, 06:42:47 PM »
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #926 on: November 13, 2013, 06:58:11 PM »
Now I dislike Larry Sanders

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/larry-sanders-cited-in-january-for-keeping-dogs-out-in-the-cold-b99140898z1-231642171.html

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Milwaukee Bucks center Larry Sanders, who was involved in an altercation at a Milwaukee nightclub on Nov. 3, was cited twice in January for cruelty to animals, according to Municipal Court records.

Sanders paid a total of $330 for the two municipal citations.

According to court records, a neighbor called police to say Sanders kept his two German shepherd puppies outside in the cold for hours without proper shelter, food and water.

The person said she tried to speak with Sanders about his dogs but felt intimidated and was told by Sanders to leave his property. The neighbor said Sanders told her that he was going to call the police if she returned, court records say.

On Jan. 3, police attempted to contact Sanders but were unsuccessful. An officer went to Sanders' home in the 3200 block of N. Lake Drive, and saw the two puppies in the backyard with no shelter, food or water.

The officer noted that the temperature outside was 17 degrees.

Police notified the Milwaukee Area Domestic Animal Control Commission to retrieve the dogs. An employee of the center determined the dogs "were in harm and needed to be removed," according to the police report.

On Jan. 4, police went back to Sanders' home, met with Sanders and issued the two citations.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #927 on: November 19, 2013, 02:27:58 PM »
Bummer about Larry Sanders.  I read an interview Zach Lowe did with him and he seemed super thoughtful.

Also the Blazers are on a 7 game win streak.   8)

Also what's up with the Grizz?  Did they lose their spark or something?

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #928 on: November 19, 2013, 06:31:18 PM »


Also what's up with the Grizz?  Did they lose their spark or something?

Big Grizz fan here but l see a bad moon a risin'. I think they miss the playoffs.

Their best 3 players are Conley, Gasol and Randolph. Gasol and Randolph are a year older, without better offensive help then they had last year. The Grizz's big off-season acquisition was Mike Miller.  Mike does one thing pretty good--hit uncontested 3-pointers--and is not good at anything else (although he does look like a Zumba champ--Mike Miller Training Like a Champ with Zumba Sentao  ). S0...this team needed offensive help and they regressed.

There is also no front-court bench depth. The guy assumed to replace Randolph one day--Ed Davis (acquired during last season from Toronto where he was putting up good numbers) is I think a bust.  Last year, the old coach Hollins never played him and the common wisdom was Hollins was sitting him out of spite since he was against the acquisition. But the new coach isn't playing Davis either. That leaves Randolph and Gasol playing 39-41 minutes a game in mid-November games. For guys of their age and weight--that is a bad check coming due one day.

The new owners/GM also got rid of a good coach--Lionel  Hollins--who I can't believe is not coaching anywhere.  Not enough of a yes man, I guess. 

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #929 on: November 19, 2013, 08:26:36 PM »
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10002027/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-sells-sitcom-based-life

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