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H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?

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16 (57.1%)
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Keith Whitener

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H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« on: December 01, 2009, 01:08:55 AM »
It's available for free at Rutgers on Wednesday. What are the FOT's' thoughts on this? I'm thinking of getting it.

KickTheBobo

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 01:36:15 AM »
nay. If you happen to catch the flu, ride it out like nature intended. Don't buy into that TV News/ CIA Mind Control voodoo bullshit.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 01:43:00 AM »
Aren't children and elderly still being denied the vaccine? They offered it the other week at the big business I work at, and I was a little upset that people are still dying from the flu yet we can offer the vaccine to keep people at work for three days. Unless I missed that the vaccine isn't as limited as it was a month ago.

Lothar_Brightblade

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 01:50:42 AM »
I got it a few weeks ago at my college. I have never gotten any flu vaccine before (I'm 20) before and have only caught the flu maybe once that I can remember. That being said, people in the college age bracket are apparently at high risk for fatality, so I got it.

It was kinda weird since it was the kind they spray up your nose. I felt like I had phlegm running down the back of my throat for about an hour afterwards, so if you have a bad sneeze or gag reflex, that might be something to think about.

Keith Whitener

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 02:07:25 AM »
I have the opportunity to have it injected into me. Also, suppositories are available.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 02:42:33 AM »
Yay. I had the shot last week. Everybody's getting it here. Don't buy into that TV News/ CIA Mind Control voodoo bullshit.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 06:07:59 AM »
On the one hand you have the consensus of the scientific community, on the other hand you have Bill Mahr, teabaggers, and "concerned parents." Hmmmm.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 08:42:18 AM »
If I understand correctly, the fatality rate for Swine Flu is not substantially different from any other common strain, it's just concentrated on a different demographic. Someone straighten me out if I'm wrong here. The real difference this year is that we're being hit by two flu strains at once -- H1N1 and whatever other one was due this season.

Nevertheless I think getting the vaccine is a good idea. You're not just saving yourself, you're contributing to overall reduction in the spread of the virus.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 09:35:13 AM »
Yay.

I got my kids vaccinated. 

My girlfriend from high school was on Facebook ranting about not getting her kids vaccinated after reading about the deaths from the swine flu vaccination in the 1970's.  I think she fails to recognize that there will always be deaths associated with vaccination.  But are the odds of death higher with the vaccination or without it? That is the question one has to answer. 

Or maybe I disagree with her because she is my ex-girlfriend.
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Lothar_Brightblade

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 10:18:49 AM »
If I remember my microbiology correctly, since the vaccine is a weakened strain, I guess you're still getting infected with the disease, so there could be complications form that. Also, there may be complications due to egg allergies. Apparently people complain about guillon barre after getting vaccines but I think I remember our prof saying that the number who get the syndrome after the vaccine isn't statistically significant to suggest a link.

Personally, I got it because I my classes are so intense, with my fast approaching graduation, that I can't really afford to miss any days that getting flu might put me out for. I'm not above going to class sick, but if I'm hit hard enough that I can't go, then it's a loss. Additionally, my mom had been bugging me about getting it. So I did.

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 11:00:41 AM »
The flu shot and the H1N1 shot are different shots. H1N1 is actually the same strain as the Spanish Influenza. In reality, it's no different than any other flu except that it attacks the young and healthy, not infants and elderly, and that it weakens your immunities, but more on that in a sec.

Depending on how you take the vaccine, it will effect how contagious you are. Intravenously, it's a dead, inactive strain. If you take the nasal spray you're receiving a live strain. Although it will be harmless to you, you will be contagious for a few days afterwards, so please be aware of what you're going to be doing in those days. People won't be dropping in your wake, but you have to be careful of where you're sneezing, whose hand you are shaking and how often you're washing your hands.

What's underlying the H1N1 concerns isn't that if you get it, there's no coming back. The CDC is looking ahead to the next pandemic, and that's the Avian flu. That never went away and even though the hysteria around it has cooled, it's still a countdown until that becomes a pandemic. Why it's relevant is because if you've had H1N1, you're twice as likely to contract the Avian version, for which there is no cure. The more people who are vaccinated against H1N1, the more people won't have the wrecked immunities that will make the Avian flu worse than it could be.

KickTheBobo

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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2009, 11:02:43 AM »
Yay. I had the shot last week. Everybody's getting it here. Don't buy into that TV News/ CIA Mind Control voodoo bullshit.


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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 12:33:03 PM »
Yay (for me). My wife is a family nurse practitioner and sees 20+ patients a day. She comes into contact with everything under the sun and will then bring it home. To ME! So I did get the shot.

If my wife didn't come into contact with so many ill people, I would have probably skipped it. I am not a big fan of medicating myself and avoid it when I can.
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Keith Whitener

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2009, 01:55:22 PM »
Vaccination it is!

Lothar_Brightblade

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Re: H1N1 vaccine: yay or nay?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 01:57:56 PM »
What's underlying the H1N1 concerns isn't that if you get it, there's no coming back. The CDC is looking ahead to the next pandemic, and that's the Avian flu. That never went away and even though the hysteria around it has cooled, it's still a countdown until that becomes a pandemic. Why it's relevant is because if you've had H1N1, you're twice as likely to contract the Avian version, for which there is no cure. The more people who are vaccinated against H1N1, the more people won't have the wrecked immunities that will make the Avian flu worse than it could be.

I remember hearing maybe 3 or 4 years ago that the "good" news about the avian flu is that it has to mutate WAY down so that it can really be effective as a pandemic. By mutate down, I mean become much less deadly. I think It was at like 80% death rate then, the dude said it needed to get into the oughts. That's still a much higher death rate than regular flu.