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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2010, 12:01:23 PM »
Probable NLCS preview starts today (Although, at this early point, I'm not counting the Giants out).  From the Cardinals website:

"Cardinals: It's another tough test for Garcia, who's seen plenty of them already this year. This time it's not so much the opposing starter -- no Tim Lincecum or Johan Santana -- as it is the opposing lineup and the ballpark. Garcia will be facing the National League's best lineup, and a team that last year was also as good as any against left-handed pitching. And he'll be doing it in the claustrophobic confines of Citizens Bank Park, one of the toughest parks on pitchers in the league. Good luck, kid."

Yikes.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #76 on: May 03, 2010, 12:04:57 PM »
Cubs need to play the Dbacks at Wrigley all the time.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2010, 11:53:47 AM »


I think it's important to acknowledge the passing of Ernie Harwell, a man who may have been the greatest of all baseball announcers.

He will be missed.
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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2010, 12:15:23 PM »


I think it's important to acknowledge the passing of Ernie Harwell, a man who may have been the greatest of all baseball announcers.

He will be missed.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2010, 05:13:56 PM »
after today's Mets loss, only this article about a certain Atlanta team's manager and his hilariously misspelled cake can make me feel better:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/05/05/cake-honoring-bobby-cox-has-unfortunate-misspelling/
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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2010, 09:15:43 PM »
Why do struggling pitchers and young guys always rise to the occasion against the Cardinals?  I'm feeling very Bad Lieutenant right now.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2010, 10:29:09 AM »
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Alex Rodriguez is such a second-rater.  "Good for him." Yeah, good for him.  He'll be in Cooperstown before you, jackass.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2010, 12:14:01 PM »
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Alex Rodriguez is such a second-rater.  "Good for him." Yeah, good for him.  He'll be in Cooperstown before you, jackass.

worst part about Yankees winning World Series last year: now that asshat has a ring. I thought for sure he was fated to go down the Karl Malone Path.
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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2010, 01:42:33 PM »
Well, so far, I'm not very impressed with the effect Mark McGwire's had on Cardinals hitting.  When Jamie Garcia has a 1.18 era and two losses and Brad Penny has a 1.70 era and three losses that's a pretty good indication that they're not getting the job done.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2010, 02:17:42 PM »
Maybe the Cards shouldn't have hired a batting coach who, even when juiced to his tits, couldn't manage higher than a .263 career batting average.

(If I sound bitter it's because I own 25 McGwire Olympic-Team Pre-Rookie Cards which have depreciated in value by about 80,000% in the last ten years.)

I still love LaRussa though.  Only a monster could hate LaRussa.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2010, 06:01:09 PM »
Yeah, I cringe when I hear people say that McGwire is one of the greatest hitters ever and belongs in the HOF. I get the argument that everyone juiced at that time and I'm totally willing to say that Bonds is still one of the greatest of all time. But, McGwire wasn't that good of a hitter, he just hit a ton of home runs and that directly lies on the fact that he cheated. I can look at Bonds stats and say even without the inflated home run numbers he still would have been HOF worthy. You can't do the same for McGwire and the same goes for Sosa.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2010, 06:21:25 PM »
There's an economist, Arthur De Vany, who says that steroids are a red herring.  I am not qualified to judge his argument, but it's interesting.

I guess that the standard argument is that steroids make mediocre hitters hit the few balls they hit a lot farther than they would, and they let mediocre pitchers throw faster.  So they let mediocre players overperform.

De Vany argues that most people who do steroids don't get better at baseball, that the things that count most (accuracy, timing) steroids don't affect, and that while they can make you stronger (in conjunction with an amount of training that would have made you stronger anyway, to a lesser degree--there is something to say about steroids making people simply *want* to work out more), that the kind of strength they build is slow-twitch muscle that would not help you hit a ball any farther.

I don't think the data stands up to his argument.  Something has to account for the massive increase in homers.  I agree that Bonds is one of the greatest ever.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2010, 08:13:27 PM »
Something has to account for the massive increase in homers. 
A: Amphetamines. 

In the 70s, I remember players good for 6-8 homers a year, suddenly hitting 20+.  Roy White and Rico Petrocelli (40 Home runs one year) come immediately to mind.

Let them go and burn out.  Keep the government out of it.

Yeah, and that means taking away MLB's monopoly status. 

I quit paying attention to sports around 1975.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2010, 08:19:29 PM »
Greenies have been part of the game longer than the 70's but they definitely played a role. I think in the late 90's the ball was juiced along with other factors like steroids. A perfect storm to create a bigger than life game. But, it had to have been steroids, almost all of the guys who were hitting the ball out of the park 50+ times a year were on all of the lists. It's kind of crazy however that since testing has begun not one power hitter has been suspended.

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Re: 2010 FOT BASEBALL THREAD.
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2010, 12:09:56 AM »
I still love LaRussa though.  Only a monster could hate LaRussa.

Guess I'm a monster.

I don't like his hair or the fact that he hasn't aged in 30 years.