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Fido

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 08:29:43 PM »
If I'm murdered as a result of all this, I count on you all to avenge me.

You mustn't worry about things like that.  Maybe you can write a screenplay about this dispute someday though.  Fight the good fight. 

Sarah

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2007, 10:35:23 PM »
FOT o' mine, FOT o' mine, forgive me, please, but I must crow:  tonight my nemesis, the real estate developer himself, called me up, and I do believe I acquitted myself well.  He smarmed, schmoozed, blandished, bribed, and blackmailed, and I responded cordially, competently, and, dare I say it? charmingly, all the while never giving an inch, countering every one of his arguments with a reasoned rebuttal, and even informing him jovially that I was hoping to convert him to the side of the angels (as defined by me, of course).  I don't think it will make any difference, but I still think I done good.

Now I just have to kick myself because, when the property he intends to ruin went on the market, it didn't occur to me to try to get a group of people together to buy it.  Turns out that $275,000 would have been enough to snap it up, and, split ten ways, that could have been managed.

Oh well.  Spilt milk.  Mice and men.*  And so forth.

*Sorry about this.  It's a small family joke that involves misquoting the famous lines as follows:  "Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are these: it might have been."

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2007, 11:32:41 PM »
In the late 90's, I rented a house in Fall Church, VA from a retired swiss doctor from Switzerland, Lily.  She had a weird (though admirable) distate for homosapiens.  Whenever she called to ask me for help (changing a light bulb, etc.) I noticed that throughout her entire house she only had pictures of animals.

Lily had a bloodlust for developers. She drove around the neighborhood looking for those "publicly available" (but artfully obscured) zoning notices.  When she found one, she would make a point to attend the meeting with the developers, and would let loose on them without fail. 

I mention this -- unless I missed your original posts on the subject -- because Lily was never consulted by the developers first.  She had to wail and make a lot of noise before they would ask one of their minions to call up and attempt to placate the raving woman.  Apparently, you have a reputation.

So: Don't give up.  Maybe a FOT could suggest an angle you could take?  Can you come up with an allegory that cleverly states your case?

PS I'm not a constitutional scholar, but there is something very f*d up about municipal govermnment getting all fluid with zoning. 


Sarah

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 07:24:48 AM »
Apparently, you have a reputation.
In a town as small as mine, it's not hard to acquire one.  All I've done, really, is talk to a few people and put up some signs.

Emily

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 09:57:54 AM »
hi sarah--

this may be trivial, but in my small little town, there is (was) a very old two way, one lane bridge that went over the rrx. well the town wanted to knock it down (because it was falling apart) and make way for a two lane bridge (very logical) but ! their plans included altering/raising the surrounding land by several feet, which would significantly change the landscape of the surrounding area (including the roads to people's houses & the overall look of this part of town) (some trees would have been knocked down and some other stuff i dont know about) basically, the residents in close proximity to the bridge were also fearful of increased traffic (a one lane, two way bridge is like a total pain in the butt, and although it causes congestion, a lot of people avoid it all together).  so one thing the "save our town/bridge" people did, well two things actually, was put up school-bus yellow signs EVERYWHERE saying "save the bridge" "save our town" etc. since you already put up signs, the other thing they did was had someone photoshop what the new bridge would look like and how this would effect the ambiance of the town etc. so basically, you could use before & digitally simulated after photos to convey your point of how this development would negatively alter the look and feel of your town.

best of luck to you. oh in conclusion, a new two way, one lane bridge was constructed. i think it was like a compromise.

ps: earlier i accidentally referred to this bridge as a "one way" bridge, but really its a "two way, one lane" bridge - which is why its a pain in the butt to get across sometimes. - just wanted to clarify that.

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Sarah

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 04:50:03 PM »
so basically, you could use before & digitally simulated after photos to convey your point of how this development would negatively alter the look and feel of your town.

Just got some posters in the mail today that do just that, and as soon as I reinforce them with tape and cardboard and the wind dies down (there's an advisory in effect right now, and when I fetched my mail it was almost ripped out my hand by a gust), I plan to haul out my trusty staple gun and get to work.

Grimlock, since the developer owns the land that abuts my tiny property on three sides (the fourth side is a road), I may well end up surrounded myself.  Though I won't end up on an "island" like that fellow in China, my modest little house--built as housing for packing-plant workers about seventy years ago (the interior siding consisted of old sardine crates)--will be lost amid a sea of "high-density housing," as it's being described in officialese. 

Happy days ahead.

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Re: A serious request for advice
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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2007, 09:29:47 AM »
Sarah,

How goes your fight?

Give us the update.

R

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2007, 11:27:21 AM »
The first public hearing is tonight.  In the two weeks since I started this thread, I've managed to get a lot of people riled up, and I'm hoping for a big turnout.  Amusingly enough, the developer himself stopped by my house this morning to schmooze me.  That he's here for tonight's meeting is revealing, since, when he called me last week, he said he wasn't going to come up till the 18th, when the second hearing is taking place.  His deciding to come now suggests he is worried.

At this point, what I'm really hoping for is to get not only his project but all iffy projects put on hold till the town revises its zoning regulations, which it proposes to do starting this year.  And much as I fear and hate committees, I am going to try to get on the one in charge of that revision.  If the zoning is modified, this will go a long way toward putting the kibosh on the worst sorts of development.

In the meantime, the noble Grimlock has told me about a pet food manufacturer that's looking to acquire or build a plant of its own in response to the recent Menu foods hysteria.  I'll be attending the meeting tonight with multiple copies of the press release announcing this plan, and the developer has been told that I have this info.  There is indeed an existing plant here that until recently canned sardines.  It may need renovation, but it's still a viable building.  Who knows?  Maybe the access to the water (it has a large, brand-new dock) will even be a draw.  I tell you, if this company actually set up shop in town, I would lobby for Grimlock's receiving the key to the city.  And, just think, my love for the Best Show could be instrumental in saving Lubec!  It would all just go to show that one should never underestimate the power of TBSOWFMU and its attendant FOT.

La lutta continua!

Fido

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2007, 10:23:53 PM »
You can't top the Best Show, you can't stop the Best Show. 

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2007, 10:19:18 AM »
Here it is, almost 72 hours since the first public hearing on the development project, and I am still worn out.  I am not cut out for all this.  Oh well.  Here's an update.

The meeting was packed--more than seventy people (usually, it's a miracle if even ten attend).  The first selectman, who is a thug, acted as moderator, and his partisan antics outraged just about everyone in attendance or viewing the proceedings on the local public access station.  Still, I was saddened that the debate was pretty much reduced to the classic "jobs versus views" conflict, a misinterpretation that made it to the article about the meeting in Friday's Bangor Daily News.  I've heard, though, that others do not share my sour view of the article, and apparently some people were so bothered by what they saw on TV that they are now planning on voting where before they couldn't give a shit.

The wicked developer called me the next day "to say good-bye," and I spoke to him at more length about the pet food manufacturer Grimlock told me about (I had supplied the developer and the selectmen with the press release and a cover memo before the meeting but had no faith anyone would read anything).  I also continued to try--no doubt unsuccessfully--to use my wit and charm (ho ho) to persuade him of the error of his ways.  Boy, do I wish I were more charismatic.

Because I am exhausted, I am feeling very grim about the whole business.  Even if this particular guy is stopped, someone else will turn up with similar plans, and eventually the rules will be changed.  Lubec will become even more of a ghost town, full of madly expensive houses that are occupied only one or two months out of the year, and those year-round residents who don't flee will become servants to the rich visitors.  And I'll just keep my curtains closed and tune in to the Best Show on Tuesdays.

Sarah

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2007, 08:21:38 AM »
Finally, the update I know you've all been waiting for.

Last night, the second and final public hearing on the proposed ordinance change took place.  I spent much of the day discussing and inputting into the computer dozens of questions that my sister had been compulsively jotting down upon arising at her usual ungodly hour (sometimes as early as 12:30 a.m.--although those are really bad days--more commonly around 2 or 3).  I then categorized them, rewrote them, and printed them out to hand out at the meeting.  The idea was to make it easier for people to stand up and ask questions, using the list as a guide.

At the meeting, we handed out the five-page list to all and sundry--including the developer and the selectmen--and waited to see what would happen.  From the start, it was clear that the powers-that-be had learned a lesson or two from the shambles that was the last meeting.  The first selectman, who had bullied, interrupted, and shilled for the project two weeks before, held his tongue more often than not.  All the selectman and the developer had obviously (finally) taken the time to do some of the homework they should have done before.  Most important, the developer changed the scope of the project.  The townhouses have been dropped, and the new ordinance now only allows him to build on smaller lots with less road frontage.  It also incorporates a height limit (35 feet).  The houses will be single-family homes, and no house can cover more than 50 percent of the lot (rather than 70 percent), which would ensure that house sizes would be modest.  In addition, the plans for the factory have shifted from turning it into a kind of minimall chockfull of little shoppes filled with junque for the tourists.  Now, the developer talks of selling fuel for the fisherman, a marine supply shop, a lobster bait joint.  He will be talking to someone who wants to organize a clammers' cooperative.  In short, all the businesses he mentioned are for the good of working fishermen and many would offer year-round employment.  And one of the selectman--a very scary woman (with whom I'm quite friendly, actually) who was once arrested for beating up her sister's boyfriend--mentioned Natura Pet Products.

That said, the developer still intends to build three houses on a small lot that would be better left empty.  He will also certainly build at least two houses on one side of me and one on the other and possibly two more lower down on the property--and could build two more on the land currently available and even more if he ends up knocking down the factory.  Plus there is absolutely no guarantee that he will put the factory to the use he described.

So.  A difference has been made.  And the zoning change could still be voted down at the meeting next week.  I'm thinking of the whole thing is a lesson in how democracy works:  no one is entirely happy, but neither is anyone completely dissatisfied.  Fucking compromise, in other words.  But better than nothing.  And, who knows? maybe people will surprise me and vote the change down.  I have a feeling they won't, though:  as I described Lubec to someone in an e-mail the other day, this town is a dying animal, chewing out its own entrails because its empty belly hurts.  People are too desperate for jobs to say no to a project that promises to offer even a few.  But at least if the change passes, the results will not be quite as gruesome as they otherwise would have been.  And I will be able to say, to quote Buffy, "the battle's done and we kind of won."

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2007, 09:58:21 AM »

How big are these lots?
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Sarah

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Re: A serious request for advice
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2007, 11:22:35 AM »
7000 square feet, with 70 feet minimum water frontage.  As I said, the houses can be only 35 feet tall and take up only 50 percent of the total lot; in other words, they won't be huge.

My dream is that all the houses will be presold to you guys.  A fantasy, I know, but a pretty one.  Hey, maybe one of you has always wanted to open a marine supply business.  You could set up shop in the factory and be able to walk to work!