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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2011, 08:33:08 AM »
I agree with Gilly's suggestion, except maybe eliminating holds so you have a nice 6 X 6 scoring system.

It's hard to draft and tweak your team needs when you have so many scoring categories...especially in a league this deep.
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« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2011, 10:24:16 AM »
New scoring settings:

Batters: Runs, HR, RBI, SB, TB, BA, OPS
Pitchers: W, SV, BB, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP, Quality starts

15 total categories

I may eliminate batting average and quality starts. The other stat categories will be used, however.

Also, do we want to utilize some defensive metrics in the scoring? (i.e. putouts, assists, errors)
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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2011, 12:13:46 PM »
Back to the drawing board!

Just kidding, but I would ask that if there are any additional changes, we be alerted at least a week before the draft.

Thanks!

dave

New scoring settings:

Batters: Runs, HR, RBI, SB, TB, BA, OPS
Pitchers: W, SV, BB, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP, Quality starts

15 total categories

I may eliminate batting average and quality starts. The other stat categories will be used, however.

Also, do we want to utilize some defensive metrics in the scoring? (i.e. putouts, assists, errors)

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« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2011, 12:36:00 PM »
Back to the drawing board!

Just kidding, but I would ask that if there are any additional changes, we be alerted at least a week before the draft.

Thanks!

dave

New scoring settings:

Batters: Runs, HR, RBI, SB, TB, BA, OPS
Pitchers: W, SV, BB, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP, Quality starts

15 total categories

I may eliminate batting average and quality starts. The other stat categories will be used, however.

Also, do we want to utilize some defensive metrics in the scoring? (i.e. putouts, assists, errors)

Unless anyone suggests any further changes, I think we will probably just use these settings.
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Re: FOnTasy Baseball 2011
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2011, 02:00:22 PM »
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Love it.

20 teams is going to be interesting, and certainly make it much harder for me to threepeat.

I'm also glad that we aren't using every single category available this year, although I did find it entertaining, but this makes the scoring layout much easier to read.

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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2011, 02:25:16 PM »
Ummmm....I've never done any sort of fantasy sport before.  Is there an overview of how in the hell this all works?

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Re: FOnTasy Baseball 2011 (Update: Registration closed)
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2011, 03:50:27 PM »
Back to the drawing board!

Just kidding, but I would ask that if there are any additional changes, we be alerted at least a week before the draft.

Thanks!

dave

New scoring settings:

Batters: Runs, HR, RBI, SB, TB, BA, OPS
Pitchers: W, SV, BB, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP, Quality starts

15 total categories

I may eliminate batting average and quality starts. The other stat categories will be used, however.

Also, do we want to utilize some defensive metrics in the scoring? (i.e. putouts, assists, errors)

Unless anyone suggests any further changes, I think we will probably just use these settings.

I like it. Maybe let's not eliminate batting average, unless everyone's OK with that. But yeah, let's roll. Astro Zombies "Prime directive: Exterminate the whole human race"
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« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2011, 10:30:05 PM »
I am having a little trouble navigating the site. How many players do we draft? When I try to look at a grid for a team roster, I get that message telling me how many days til the draft, and behind that, it looks like 9 offensive players and 7 pitchers. That's OK if I am reading it right, but I have never been in a league with fewer than 14 offensive players and 9 pitchers. How many should I plan to draft overall?

dave from knoxville

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« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2011, 10:34:44 PM »
What I am trying to ask is, do we not draft any reserves?

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« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2011, 09:33:13 AM »
Right now it's set to 5 bench spots and two DL spots.  You can see this under "Scoring & Settings".

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« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2011, 10:46:47 AM »
Right now it's set to 5 bench spots and two DL spots.  You can see this under "Scoring & Settings".

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« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2011, 11:40:14 AM »
New scoring settings:

Batters: Runs, HR, RBI, SB, TB, BA, OPS
Pitchers: W, SV, BB, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP, Quality starts

15 total categories

I may eliminate batting average and quality starts. The other stat categories will be used, however.

Also, do we want to utilize some defensive metrics in the scoring? (i.e. putouts, assists, errors)

If it's not too late to suggest changes to the scoring categories, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents:

- No defensive categories. Each of the common defensive metrics is seriously flawed as far as accurately reflecting a player's defensive value. In addition, we have a fair amount of relative newbies. Defensive stats aren't really part of the sphere of knowledge for most fans. For example, I'm sure most casual baseball fans can come up with good guesses at the top five homerun hitters from 2010. I doubt that even a semi-fanatical baseball fan could guess who had the most putouts or highest fielding percentage from 2010.

- Holds & Quality Starts - also somewhat obscure. Holds is such a specialized category that you have to devote at least one of your scarce pitching slots to a middle reliever. And what's less sexy than a middle reliever? ;)

- Total Bases and OPS are somewhat repetitive. OPS includes slugging pct, which is TB/AB.

- Same for BB plus WHIP in the pitching categories.

In general, I prefer the typical 5x5 stat categories:

BA, HR, RBI, SB, R
W, S, K, ERA, WHIP

But OPS is such a statistical darling that it's hard to argue against its inclusion, especially if you're using BA. But that gives you more batting stats than pitching, which is a whole other can of worms.

Anyway, I'm not the commissioner, so I happily defer to your judgment. Just wanted to voice my opinion. :)

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« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2011, 01:37:25 PM »
Isn't OPS (on base + total bases)/AB?

So that means it's (hits + walks + total bases)/AB

which means since we're also using BA, which is hits/AB, that we are really tracking

(2*hits + walks + total bases)/AB

as 2 categories. I am good with however we do it, but this seems to put lots of emphasis on plain old hits. Where's Pete Rose when we need him?

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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2011, 02:15:48 PM »
Isn't OPS (on base + total bases)/AB?

So that means it's (hits + walks + total bases)/AB

which means since we're also using BA, which is hits/AB, that we are really tracking

(2*hits + walks + total bases)/AB

as 2 categories. I am good with however we do it, but this seems to put lots of emphasis on plain old hits. Where's Pete Rose when we need him?

OPS is actually slugging + on-base. It doesn't make a lot of statistical sense.

(total bases/at-bats) + [ (hits + walks) / (at-bats + walks) ]

So Albert Pujols 2010:

OBP .414
SLG .596
OPS 1.011

Personally, I think the most "accurate" approach is to use OBP and SLG as 2 separate categories, while tossing BA. But that's a little too wonkish. I still have affinity for the "old chestunut" stats, so ditching BA completely just seems wrong.
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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2011, 02:52:56 PM »
Wow. What's this supposed to measure? Here's another way to think of it, that's equivalent, but equally puzzling

(total bases*at bats + walks*total bases + at bats*hits + at bats*walks)
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                                              ((at bats)^2+at bats*walks)


Seriously, what does that measure? Can we have

sin(hits+reached base on error-thrown out at second)
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   the cube root of (strike outs - ground outs)



?

Seriously, though, I don't care what you do, as long as its in place and unchanging at least a few days before the draft.

Thanks

dave