What the hell has Dawkins gotten himself into?

[Smelodies]

http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/07/oh-hell-is-elevatorgate-going-to-ruin.html

[crumbum]

I've been fascinated by this whole thing for the last few days. Dawkins certainly behaved like an idiot, but what really interested me was the flame war that erupted before he even stuck his nose in. It's been a stunning reminder of the fragility of the male ego and has made me realize how much misogyny comes out of dudes' fear of the power women have to reject them.

[One of the Few]

"What do women want?" Sigmund Freud once famously asked. Aretha Franklin answered him just as famously: "R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me!"

I stopped reading right there.

[Tor_Hershman]

 Dawkins, what an insipid-arse.
He sez the world would be better without religion and, in fact, it would be
JUST THE SAME.

Gettin' rid of (MOST) fiction does not increase non-evil;
Social-Darwinism sucked just badly as religion.
A monkey, fine or foul, in a Pope suit, Billy Graham suit, Dali Lama suit or a Darwin suit will still be a good or evil ape.

The Origin of Jesus Christ (Part I)
The Origin of Jesus Christ (Part II)

[JonFromMaplewood]

I never thought I would write this but: What Tor Hershman said.

I like Dawkins for "The Selfish Gene," and it pretty much ends there.  I happen to be an atheist, but I do not need bullies like him being the ambassadors of my personal beliefs.  I wish he and Hitchens and Dennett (all of them smart men who I respect, the last having written one of my favorite books of all time) would all just stick to their original strengths: biologist, smart political loudmouth, and cognitive philosopher, respectively.

[Tor_Hershman]

I never thought I would write this but: What Tor Hershman said.

I like Dawkins for "The Selfish Gene," and it pretty much ends there.  I happen to be an atheist, but I do not need bullies like him being the ambassadors of my personal beliefs.  I wish he and Hitchens and Dennett (all of them smart men who I respect, the last having written one of my favorite books of all time) would all just stick to their original strengths: biologist, smart political loudmouth, and cognitive philosopher, respectively.

Indeed, Jon From Maplewood, the truth IS hard to swallow.
Well, not for moi, but that's just moi.

Anywho, a few years ago I was cyberly contacted by an ole high school [Mapletown Jr. Sr. High] buddy.  Well, the tale of we two going to the Holy Roller meeting is a classic. (See blog)
It seems, while in college, he went to a lecture by Madilyn Murry O’Hair and it seems she was a totally unlikeable person.

Now, Jon, think about this. . . if you were the evil religious authority, that ALWAYS approve or disapprove ALL major media, here in our empire, would you pick a likable Atheist ORRRRRR a most disagreeable Athest to have the public platform?

If you read me blog, this is the brother of the madeout with author moi mentioned.


Stay on groovin' safari,
Tor

[cavorting with nudists]

Personally, I get cranky enough about the deathgrip held on the world by ancient superstitions that I don't mind having a few obstreperous loudmouths out there willing to take on the fight. I'm not sure how they qualify as "bullies" for simply making arguments; it's not like they use their unfathomable institutional power to abet the spread of AIDS in Africa, for instance.  The Pope, now there's a bully.

[buffcoat]

Chocolate Thunder, NO!

[ChipSuey]

This just makes me glad I stopped reading blogs like Pharyngula and such.  I'll go back and visit sometimes, and a few skims through the comments makes me want to run screaming.

I'm fully in favor of leaving behind bronze age mythologies and all that, but do they have to be so nasty about it?

[buffcoat]

This just makes me glad I stopped reading blogs like Pharyngula and such.  I'll go back and visit sometimes, and a few skims through the comments makes me want to run screaming.

I'm fully in favor of leaving behind bronze age mythologies and all that, but do they have to be so nasty about it?

Because the stakes are so low.

[dave from knoxville]

Am I a bully?

[Ojingeo]

The Tomiverse is attractive to me (As is the Werner Herzogiverse) is attractive to me because so many people in my peer group are so ANTI-religion. I'm a stone-cold atheist. But there's got be room for believing in SOMETHING. Dawkins and Hitchens are such gasbag buzzkills--so unnecessary in a world with real problems. (Some of my best friends believe in God--I swear!)

[cavorting with nudists]

Well, if you think the world's real problems can be addressed squarely while 98% of the population concentrates on trying to appease/suck up to invisible superheroes who live in outer space, then I guess active efforts at snapping them out of it would seem unnecessary.

Atheists must be the only group who are even better than liberals at turning on their own.

[Tor_Hershman]

POPE GUY The Pontiff Man

[Tor_Hershman]

Atheists must be the only group who are even better than liberals at turning on their own.

Gads, CWN, when I frist released my "Awful Facts - Part I,"
[The basic tale of “The Origin Of Jesus Christ"]
waaaaay back @ original Mp3.com, me thunk to iself,
"This is gonna get me killed."
HOWEVER, there were many 'hope you die(s)' but only one 'death threat', the VAST majority of negative responses were from Atheists that had spent years configuring tales about Hay Zeus'
non-super-human activities and such.
Me wee, non-Harry Potteresque tale of Ovid bein’ a
smarty-robed kid, writin’ the Jesus tale as a PolySci parable, got panned royally by many Atheists.

As with any group not so small, some are wretchedly terrible, 
a few are genuinely civilized and most. . .are most.

I suppose it boils down to, are you an Atheist ‘cause grandpa used to corn-hole ya while yammerin’ scripture or izzzz you an Athest ‘cause there ain’t a worthwhile god and/or devil?