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tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« on: November 12, 2011, 10:37:30 PM »
http://frankmillerink.com/2011/11/anarchy

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“Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached - is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.

This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they’re spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.

 Wake up, pond scum. America is at war against a ruthless enemy.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 10:53:56 PM »


"WAKE UP POND SCUM"

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 11:01:40 PM »
Is this a Mamet-esque heel turn or has he always been a conservative dickhead?

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 12:14:35 AM »
Is OWS the pond scum or the ruthless enemy?
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 01:06:02 AM »
Who can parse it? It's as poorly written as a Frank Miller comic.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 09:16:30 AM »
Is this a Mamet-esque heel turn or has he always been a conservative dickhead?

I'm not real familiar with his views from the 80's except pretty much all his work has strong misogynistic undertones.
But he recently released a graphic novel called "Holy Terror!" that was originally going to be Batman taking on Al Qaeda. DC wisely declined it. So Miller inserted his new Batman surrogate into it. The book has all shades of Islamophobia.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 09:59:30 AM »
Is this a Mamet-esque heel turn or has he always been a conservative dickhead?

According to my Twitter feed, the second.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 10:18:36 AM »
Is this a Mamet-esque heel turn or has he always been a conservative dickhead?

Yeah, he's been a conservative dickhead for as long as I can remember.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 10:56:12 AM »
Is this a Mamet-esque heel turn or has he always been a conservative dickhead?

I think it has always been lurking close to the surface of Miller's being...

And what is with the raised eyebrow? Is he trying to impersonate Frank Gaffney?
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 11:06:50 AM »
Who can parse it? It's as poorly written as a Frank Miller comic.

I'm inclined to remember Alan Moore's description of "300": "... it was racist, it was homophobic, and above all it was sublimely stupid. ..."

Source: (http://www.slashfilm.com/alan-moore-still-not-watching-the-watchmen/)
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 11:08:32 AM »
My favorite line about 300 came from Sarah Silverman: "They titled it after its rating on a gayness scale of 1 to 10."
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 11:11:02 AM »
My favorite line about 300 came from Sarah Silverman: "They titled it after its rating on a gayness scale of 1 to 10."

I haven't heard that one. That's exactly what we've come to expect from Silverman: spot on.

I've never read the comic, nor have I Seen the movie. I couldn't stop laughing at every clip I saw. I looked... Well, as Moore put it, "sublimely stupid"...
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 11:24:39 AM »
The Comics Journal once described Miller's 80s/early 90s politics as "mugged liberal," which I think was once apt. He satirized Reagan in The Dark Knight Returns; his portrayals of corruption in Daredevil and Batman: Year One were boilerplate old-school liberal along the lines of Jimmy Breslin; and Give Me Liberty, despite its Objectivist influences, is pretty rough on conservatives and corporate hegemony. In one of the storylines, he has a Reaganite Republican president preside over a civil war and lose power as a left-liberal takes over. Miller seems to sympathize with the left-liberal president but shows how completely ineffective he is.

I think he became a moron long before he became a conservative, though, and 9/11 just pointed him in a direction. I found Sin City and 300 unreadable self-parody, and his late-90s sequels to Give Me Liberty and Dark Knight were just dumb, dumb, dumb.

The irony of this is, in the Randian utopia Miller portrayed in GML, he depicted a cross between the General Assembly meetings at OWS and Rock-'Em-Sock-'Em Robots. I guess maybe if the Occupiers wore exo-skeletons and fought he'd be OK with it all?
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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 06:53:36 PM »
I love Frank Miller, the cartoonist (and sometimes the writer) so reading all of this really bummed me out.

I mean, if he went nuts on OWS, then okay, he would be getting into that gross John Byrne-zone but then he gets to Al-Qaeda stuff and people should enroll. I mean, when he was the protesters's age, that guy was learning his craft from Neal Adams.
And now he's a millionnaire thanks to his books.

What a weird old fart.

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Re: tap the brakes, Frank Miller
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 09:38:58 PM »