Frank Zappa, conservative

[cavorting with nudists]

She actually sounds a lot like an archetypal Teabagger there: some legitimate beefs mixed into an incoherent stew of untruths, misunderstood facts, internal contradictions, and roiling, free-ranging anger spat out as if it were a substitute for insight.

Oh well, still my favorite drummer.

[JON IN PHL]

Can't help it. I still like Cruisin' With Ruben & The Jets.

[Smelodies]

Zappa's done some good stuff ("Peaches en Regalia," "Watermelon in Easter Hay"), I don't know his body of work like many of you seem to.

Oh yeah, and Black Sabbath stole his riff:

Frank Zappa - Hungry Freaks Daddy 1966

Zappa to Beastie Boys in two steps!

As far as players who were in love with the sound of their own guitar, I prefer Jerry Garcia.

[fonpr]

If Zappa was a conservative then I wish he were more influencial on the current bunch.  Facts meant something to him.

Frank Zappa Moving To Montana

[Kormod]

Tax the FUCK out of the churches!
-- Frank Zappa

The last election just laid the foundation of the next 500 years of Dark Ages.
-- Frank Zappa, in 1981

Let's not be too tough on our own ignorance. It's the thing that makes America great. If America weren't incomparably ignorant, how could we have tolerated the last eight years?
-- Frank Zappa, in 1988

I don't know. I like him.

[Smelodies]

Some libertarians moved further to the left, e.g. Bill Maher. Frank would have been a frequent Real Time guest.

[Terry F]

Of all the people to be that upset with in the music business, Zappa seems like a pretty irrelevant small fish. It sounds like Tom has more of an axe to grind with a particular Zappa fan; much like his anger towards comedians with podcast who appear on other podcast. Who knows, maybe PFT is a big Zappa fan.

[wood and iron]

Of all the people to be that upset with in the music business, Zappa seems like a pretty irrelevant small fish. It sounds like Tom has more of an axe to grind with a particular Zappa fan; much like his anger towards comedians with podcast who appear on other podcast. Who knows, maybe PFT is a big Zappa fan.

Don't paint Tom with the brush of the strident people in this thread. Tom was being funny. Others in this thread aren't.

[danner]

Some libertarians moved further to the left, e.g. Bill Maher. Frank would have been a frequent Real Time guest.

Yeah, I think Zappa and Maher would probably have pretty similar politics. Maher is also not 100% liberal on every issue, but to call him a conservative (at least by the GOP's current definition) would be pretty ridiculous.

[roubaix]

I don't know much about Zappa, but it's cool that he worked on Timothy Carey's weird film

[cavorting with nudists]

(Around the same time he did a pretty cool soundtrack for a grade-Z Western with Mercedes McCambridge, I forget the title.)

Oh Phooey, Tom is just as stridently anti-Zappa as anyone else here, and has certainly been talking about it longer--see the 7/3/01 show, where he challenges listeners to "name one Frank Zappa song that doesn't suck."  Being funnier than us doesn't make him less uncompromising.  And he does sometimes hold an artist's fans against him or her (see Waits, Tom).

(I admit I don't really know what Tom had in mind by calling him "conservative," but the strident part of me thinks any anti-Zappaism is good anti-Zappaism.)

[fonpr]

Lumpy Gravy (Duodenum)

[mackro]

"Valley Girl" was a cool radio hit.

[dave from knoxville]

I'm genuinely confused as to how anybody can like that guy. Pompous, pretentious, self-infatuated, contemptuous of everything, and his "humor" is ridiculously sophomoric when not just scatological and gross.

Every point is irrelevant to me; I like the music, and prefer the instrumental work. Does every musical artist you consider need to submit a personality assessment to you before you decide whether you're going to listen? 

People, listen to what you like.

[dave from knoxville]

I may have gone into more detail about my reasons, but I don't think I've said anything more strongly anti-Zappa than Tom has on his show, several times--in fact I've even admitted liking a tiny portion of his output.  Not comparing myself to Tom, but is he "intolerant" on the subject?

He's a comedian. You're some dude on a comedian's message board.