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JRSly

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Map of Newbridge
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:28:42 PM »
Hello all, first post...little nervous..deep breaths, deep breaths before I get into full Pudge mode and chicken out.

Okay, so I've always been a map nut and so whenever a situation arises where I enjoy something and this something can allow for it, I want it in some form of map. So soon after I became a Best Show devotee I thought about the idea of a map of Newbridge. I'd waffle back and forth, arguing if it was a worthwhile project or not...it's just a city map and not quite as attractive as a regional map of Middle Earth or Westeros something like that, likewise it doesn't have as strong of a canon basis to start from and I'd be making most of it up so it's not as authentically informative as those maps...does that devalue it? It's a comedy show, could a straight-laced municipal-style map still be funny? Ultimately I decided "yes it could be funny" and I just really wanted to see it realized and what finally got me started was the WFMU run coming to an end and the thought that I'd finally have a (temporarily?) complete, finite well of information to work with.

So in the last few months I've been acquiring shows and making mp3s of all the Wurster calls, big thanks to buffcoat as his site was invaluable in tracking down the necessary shows and finding each call, and relistening from the beginning to note all the mentions of Newbridge. It's been quite an undertaking, but there's definitely worse forms of research. Since I only became a fan in the last three years or so, there were plenty of calls that I'd never heard so it was a lot of fun. Once I finished, I had a big ol' Evernote note of dozens of businesses and people and the neighborhoods and streets they could be found at. The next step was hopping into Photoshop and trying to put all that info in a blender and try to force it to make sense.

The image I'm linking to is a few weeks of work, it's been a slow start as I had the desire to make it feel as realistic as I could and so during those weeks I'd been taking a self-guided crash course in city planning and municipal growth. More than twice the time "working" is spent in my head trying to plan and visualize streets and districts before actually committing to the illustration.

I've been hesitant to post anything here before it was finished for a couple reasons, first I selfishly liked it being "my project" and being the ultimate god but I also don't very often work collaboratively because of past projects that completely stagnate because of too many hands pushing and pulling in different directions and I really want to see this project completed. But I came to the realization that it would be silly to ignore such a great potential helping hand in this community. I'd be dumb to not see the benefit in showing it at this stage and getting criticism and advice now rather than having to make significant changes after it's done. I think the pros outweigh the cons.

Okay, that's probably long enough, I can get into more specifics of why I did what later on. Right now, I'm really interested in what folks' first impressions are and if there's anything I chose to do that just seems completely stupid and wrong.

http://imgur.com/FJHGpKO

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 05:02:50 PM »
Let me just quickly reply with my initial impression:  Amazing!!!

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2014, 07:50:35 PM »
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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 08:09:00 PM »
Dios Mio, Man!! way cool!

JRSly

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2014, 09:23:59 PM »
Thanks for the encouraging words! Thought I'd talk a little bit more about how I got to this point. First thing I did was try to layout all the geography-the water features and the mountains, since they'd be the immovable elements that the city would have to develop around. It took a little while to try to sort out how to fit in a harbor, inlet, sea, and strait but I'm happy with this configuration. Who the hell knows what a mini ocean is, all I had to go off of was that it once "flooded half the town" so I figure it should be pretty centrally located..and to make more deserving of being called an ocean, it's got a sandy beach. Eventually I'm going to create a topographic layer so the mountains and cliffs will be seen in relief.

Then came roughly figuring out where the major routes and neighborhoods would be. It's kind of amazing that with maybe ~500 Newbridge related calls, the roads on the map now are almost all that are specifically named on the show. And all the call outs on the map now are all of the places that are mentioned with any kind of context on where they are located. So like I said, there's a lot of room for making stuff up. Once I got the main arterial road network drawn out, time to start putting all the stuff in between the roads...homes and shorter streets and businesses and other points of interest. Before I got very for a long, like with the geographic features, I thought it best to draw out the larger places-the colleges, the commons, airport, zoo..now I'm moving on to the schools and sports venues. That seemed the smartest way to go, start with the biggest things that are hard to plop down just anywhere and then work your way towards the smaller buildings that are easy to find a place for.

A couple of "head canon" type things that helped dictate some of my choices. I thought the early settlement would have a strong Quaker influence, Quakers are mentioned more than a few times on the show and the time period works nicely with maybe a group of Quakers setting out to start their own town. So the Quaker Museum is a central piece in the botanical gardens and prominently positioned in relation to the mayor's house and along the long line of sight going down Gorntner Street, the way cities like Paris or Washington DC would design streets that guide your eye and travel towards monuments or important sites. In the gardens, the 8-pointed star made by the walking paths is a Quaker symbol, again inspired by the Freemason symbology in Washington DC. Speaking of Gorntner Street, that name is mentioned a couple times and I like to think it might be the name of one of the early settlers, so there's Mount Gorntner, Gorntner Creek, Gorntner Circle and Street. Monster Island where the penitentiary is was created as an homage to a Simpsons joke where people are punished by being sent to Monster Island but someone reassures those sentenced that, "It's just a name". Upon arriving and being chased by monsters they learn that "it's just a name" because it's actually a peninsula. So there was that, and a peninsula made more sense for easy access and to explain how so many prisoners were able to escape.

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2014, 09:25:41 PM »
That map is unbelievable. I tweeted out a link to it. Hope you don't mind.

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2014, 09:33:26 PM »
Amazing!

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2014, 09:37:21 PM »
This is great!
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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2014, 09:51:47 PM »
Wow.  First thing I looked for to see if this was The Real Deal: Dame Lola's Erotic White Chocolates.  It was there.

Very nice to see this: The Devil's Breakfast Nook, a weird rock formation just east of a weird mud sculpture called Satan's Jukebox.

Glorious work.
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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2014, 10:38:46 PM »
nec13: Sure, the more people that check it out and can catch any problems or help add more locations the better.

Omar: I heard about Dame Lola's from the guy in the ski mask. I know I've missed things, in the last few weeks I've gone back to relisten to some of my favorites or to get a little more detail on locations I know were described in some detail and frustratingly stumbled across locations I missed in my first go through. It can be tough to catch every quick little name drop, but I think I'm like over 90% there and I think I always caught the most Newbridgian things, such as the Devil's Breakfast Nook.

Wow, a nod of approval from Omar...I'll sleep good tonight. I consider that a serious feather in my cap.


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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2014, 11:08:39 PM »
very cool!
huge respect for the amount of work that appears to have gone into this.

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 11:43:27 PM »
I had a question about 26. Heliocentric Records.  Do you know the call in which that was referenced?

I may have missed it, but I did not see the Newbridge Jazz Academy!  There's another late-night erotic place called Panty Boys on Old Muffler Row. Circa 2006 Tom's bully Troy Dershman was in a rough patch and dancing there.


nec13: Sure, the more people that check it out and can catch any problems or help add more locations the better.

Omar: I heard about Dame Lola's from the guy in the ski mask. I know I've missed things, in the last few weeks I've gone back to relisten to some of my favorites or to get a little more detail on locations I know were described in some detail and frustratingly stumbled across locations I missed in my first go through. It can be tough to catch every quick little name drop, but I think I'm like over 90% there and I think I always caught the most Newbridgian things, such as the Devil's Breakfast Nook.

Wow, a nod of approval from Omar...I'll sleep good tonight. I consider that a serious feather in my cap.
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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 11:54:53 PM »
Awesome, thanks! Missed both of those, any idea when the Jazz Academy shows up? I'll listen to Troy's calls tonight at least and get the Panty Boys details.

And Heliocentric Records was the shop started by the snobby Music Scholar. Just listened to that one today actually to confirm if the Music Scholar was a resident of Newbridge or not.

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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2014, 06:23:37 AM »
Awesome, thanks! Missed both of those, any idea when the Jazz Academy shows up? I'll listen to Troy's calls tonight at least and get the Panty Boys details.

And Heliocentric Records was the shop started by the snobby Music Scholar. Just listened to that one today actually to confirm if the Music Scholar was a resident of Newbridge or not.

The Newbridge Jazz Academy is mentioned a few times over the years (I think) but the key reference is the original Hammerhead call -- Sonny Rollins barely escaped his 1983 gig at that venue. 7/17/07.

Dershman discussed Panty Boys on 10/10/06.

“People think it’s condemned, but Panty Boys is still happening.” - Troy Dershman
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Re: Map of Newbridge
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2014, 07:36:45 AM »
Amazing.
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