Terry Richardson bashing nothwithstanding

[Tim K in DC]

This rebuttal to a letter to the editor from last month's issue of Vice was one of the greatest dope-slaps I have ever fucking, fucking, fucking read:

MAPQUESTER
Dear Vice,
Man, you guys kill me. Tell your line editors (or whatever you call
the people who do this) to watch out for whoever did that "Marathon
in Heels" map. Brooklyn is not separate from Long Island, nor is
Queens—they are all on the SAME PIECE OF LAND. Whoever did
the map apparently lives in a bizarre reality where Long Island is a
separate landmass that resides below the isle of Manhattan.
I realize that you all must work very hard on the "Big Concept"
and I am just being an anal-retentive dork, but whoever doesn't know
this basic piece of geography and has a creative role in your magazine
is in my eyes probably a major queef, or a European. It's especially
bad since you guys always hang out with or talk about people
who reside in Brooklyn. I mean if I had to make a goofy map of
Mexico City for some reason, I would feel obliged to look at another
map first before blindly guessing at what it must be shaped like.
But I guess if all I knew about this city was, like, getting coked up at
"scene" parties and taking cabs then maybe I wouldn't really have a
good idea what the city I fucking lived in looked like either.
TERENCE MINERBROOK
Via email
Wow. How long were you smirking after hitting the send button on
this little nugget of genius? Since we're guessing that the idea of
glancing at an "actual" map of New York wasn't any more likely to
occur to you after calling us out on our geography than before (or
even just looking carefully at our map), we will simply spell it out for
you: That is Staten Island, you fucking, fucking, fucking idiot.

[Sploops]

I hate Vice and all it's readers and contributers and people who casually reference it and people who even know of it and people who are from french canadia which I understand Vice originates. ,,, I hate a lot of people including terry richardson, whoever that is.  and you, I hate you.  and myself. i hate myself.  and humanity, i hate everyone who reads this, fuck you.  fuck all of you.  you pieces of filth.  you belong in the filth can.

[Tim K in DC]

I hate Vice and all it's readers and contributers and people who casually reference it and people who even know of it and people who are from french canadia which I understand Vice originates. ,,, I hate a lot of people including terry richardson, whoever that is.  and you, I hate you.  and myself. i hate myself.  and humanity, i hate everyone who reads this, fuck you.  fuck all of you.  you pieces of filth.  you belong in the filth can.

Wow. You covered everything here.

[buffcoat]

Sploops, calm down.  You're *screaming* like an *animal.*

[Laurie]

Okay, let's shift the focus to the other main douchebag at Vice, Gavin McInnes:

This is from an article NYT published:

Few of Vice's fans or customers seem to realize just how deeply hostile Mr. McInnes is to the liberal live-and-let-live ethos of traditional bohemian culture. It is a fair bet that a majority of the downtown population opposed the Iraq war and dislikes the policies of George W. Bush. But in an interview Mr. McInnes advocated changing New York license plates to read "Liberalism Gone Amok." Last month, he wrote an article for Patrick Buchanan in The American Conservative boasting of having converted Vice readers to conservatism.

He actually leans much further to the right than the Republican Party. His views are closer to a white supremacist's. "I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of," he said. "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."

I also glanced at the Wikipedia article, which mentioned this, sans source:

McInnes has since said that the interview was a prank on the young fashion journalist who wrote the piece, with the magazine's political outlook and various aspects of the local Williamsburg, Brooklyn hipster culture clearly being exaggerated by the interviewees for comic effect.

And to that I say, "Come on, guys." Dude wrote an article in The American Conservative called "Hip to Be Square: It's getting cooler to be conservative." He's not joking.

[John Junk]

Okay, let's shift the focus to the other main douchebag at Vice, Gavin McInnes:

This is from an article NYT published:

Few of Vice's fans or customers seem to realize just how deeply hostile Mr. McInnes is to the liberal live-and-let-live ethos of traditional bohemian culture. It is a fair bet that a majority of the downtown population opposed the Iraq war and dislikes the policies of George W. Bush. But in an interview Mr. McInnes advocated changing New York license plates to read "Liberalism Gone Amok." Last month, he wrote an article for Patrick Buchanan in The American Conservative boasting of having converted Vice readers to conservatism.

He actually leans much further to the right than the Republican Party. His views are closer to a white supremacist's. "I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of," he said. "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."

I also glanced at the Wikipedia article, which mentioned this, sans source:

McInnes has since said that the interview was a prank on the young fashion journalist who wrote the piece, with the magazine's political outlook and various aspects of the local Williamsburg, Brooklyn hipster culture clearly being exaggerated by the interviewees for comic effect.

And to that I say, "Come on, guys." Dude wrote an article in The American Conservative called "Hip to Be Square: It's getting cooler to be conservative." He's not joking.

Yeah, but come on Filthy Mrs. Jarvis Cocker, I tucked this article and all my copies of Vice away in my "Things I cared about in 2003" file.

[Laurie]

Okay, let's shift the focus to the other main douchebag at Vice, Gavin McInnes:

This is from an article NYT published:

Few of Vice's fans or customers seem to realize just how deeply hostile Mr. McInnes is to the liberal live-and-let-live ethos of traditional bohemian culture. It is a fair bet that a majority of the downtown population opposed the Iraq war and dislikes the policies of George W. Bush. But in an interview Mr. McInnes advocated changing New York license plates to read "Liberalism Gone Amok." Last month, he wrote an article for Patrick Buchanan in The American Conservative boasting of having converted Vice readers to conservatism.

He actually leans much further to the right than the Republican Party. His views are closer to a white supremacist's. "I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of," he said. "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."

I also glanced at the Wikipedia article, which mentioned this, sans source:

McInnes has since said that the interview was a prank on the young fashion journalist who wrote the piece, with the magazine's political outlook and various aspects of the local Williamsburg, Brooklyn hipster culture clearly being exaggerated by the interviewees for comic effect.

And to that I say, "Come on, guys." Dude wrote an article in The American Conservative called "Hip to Be Square: It's getting cooler to be conservative." He's not joking.

Yeah, but come on Filthy Mrs. Jarvis Cocker, I tucked this article and all my copies of Vice away in my "Things I cared about in 2003" file.

I want a divorce. I want HALF, Jarvis! HALF!

[Jason]

[evan (giggles)]

gavin mcinnis, please meet bianca casady. you two would get along! i anticipate long, long conversations about post-racist irony!

http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3671&Itemid=9

Excerpt:

"After being alerted by a Brainwashed reader to this fascinating article from the Washington Post about ultra-trendy "Kill Whitey" parties in Williamsburg, Brooklyn (where else?), I was not only perturbed by what I learned about the racist underside of indie trendoids, but I also discovered a little tidbit that might potentially be very embarassing to indie freak-folk darlings CocoRosie...

...While reading the article, I came across this particularly heinous quote from a typical, post-ironic urban hipster trust-fund baby:

    '[Bianca] Casady was raised in Santa Barbara, Calif., but quickly notes her worldliness by listing the cities where she has lived along the trail to Brooklyn. A regular Kill Whitie partygoer, she tried the conventional (that is, non-hipster) hip-hop clubs but found the men "really hard-core." In this vastly whiter scene, Casady said that "it's a safe environment to be freaky."'

Who do you think that could be making such horrifyingly non-worldly, ignorant and racist generalizations about black men?  Surprise!  It's none other than Bianca Casady, one-half of sister duo CocoRosie, whose debut album won them high praise from Pitchforkmedia and The Wire, and whose recent album, Noah's Ark, was called "hypnotic" and "angelic-sounding" by Allmusic.com.  My recent review for Brainwashed noted that the album sounded like "a collection of willful, calculated eccentricities clumsily juxtaposed with each other."

CocoRosie may indeed be an excruciatingly awful band, but making shitty music, much as it pains me to admit it, is not a crime.  What really concerns me is what is suggested by Bianca's statement in the Post, and what the content of the article says about this culture."

[buffcoat]

When I make enough money to retire, I am going to completely stop keeping up with culture, particularly that of the 20-somethings in the Big Cities.  I am going to sit on an island in the South Pacific and pretend that there is no one in the world but me and the few people I interact with on a regular basis.  This is how I've decided to cope.

Don't judge!

[John Junk]

gavin mcinnis, please meet bianca casady. you two would get along! i anticipate long, long conversations about post-racist irony!

http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3671&Itemid=9

Excerpt:

"After being alerted by a Brainwashed reader to this fascinating article from the Washington Post about ultra-trendy "Kill Whitey" parties in Williamsburg, Brooklyn (where else?), I was not only perturbed by what I learned about the racist underside of indie trendoids, but I also discovered a little tidbit that might potentially be very embarassing to indie freak-folk darlings CocoRosie...

...While reading the article, I came across this particularly heinous quote from a typical, post-ironic urban hipster trust-fund baby:

    '[Bianca] Casady was raised in Santa Barbara, Calif., but quickly notes her worldliness by listing the cities where she has lived along the trail to Brooklyn. A regular Kill Whitie partygoer, she tried the conventional (that is, non-hipster) hip-hop clubs but found the men "really hard-core." In this vastly whiter scene, Casady said that "it's a safe environment to be freaky."'

Who do you think that could be making such horrifyingly non-worldly, ignorant and racist generalizations about black men?  Surprise!  It's none other than Bianca Casady, one-half of sister duo CocoRosie, whose debut album won them high praise from Pitchforkmedia and The Wire, and whose recent album, Noah's Ark, was called "hypnotic" and "angelic-sounding" by Allmusic.com.  My recent review for Brainwashed noted that the album sounded like "a collection of willful, calculated eccentricities clumsily juxtaposed with each other."

CocoRosie may indeed be an excruciatingly awful band, but making shitty music, much as it pains me to admit it, is not a crime.  What really concerns me is what is suggested by Bianca's statement in the Post, and what the content of the article says about this culture."

Dude, did that girl from CocoRosie blue-ball that guy or what?  He's so mad at her!  She's just a dumb kid.  The Post article is a lot more evenhanded, but this is a bit much:

"His street fliers come emblazoned with the words 'Kill Whitie' across a woman's backside. Another flier offers free admission to anyone with a bucket of fried chicken."

Heyyyo!  Yeesh.  Seriously, how much can some people love/hate themselves?