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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: pscan on January 15, 2008, 04:47:20 AM
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First, let me preface this by saying that anyone can hold any opinion about anything. It's fine. I liked Juno, and loved I'm Not There. I also like lots of things Tom likes (ABBA) and things he dislikes (The Band).
With that out of the way, let me just say that Tom's opinions are starting to kind of bore me. It seems as if he's enjoying playing the role of culture spoiler, dumping on things that others are (over-) praising. While his delivery and content is hilarious and fun to listen to, I'd like to challenge Tom to go on a positive rant for once. Let's hear him go on and on about something he loves. Too many critics take too much joy in tearing things down (not that Tom is a critic). I want to hear someone build something up. The world is full of the bad things. I want more good things.
Not that I would directly challenge the Lord of Living Lightning directly...
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Yes, because comedians generally get their best laffs by talking about their enthusiasms.
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And the best stories are about happy families.
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Party Zone!
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Party Zone!
I don't know what this means but it made me laugh.
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Seriously? The answer is 'happy isn't as funny?' First of all, that's not always true. Second, is Tom really a 'comedian'? I mean, of course he's funny and all that...
I guess what I'm more concerned about here is knee-jerk cynicism. Now, I love it just as much as anyone when Tom takes the knives out, but is that all there really is anymore? Are we just gonna talk about how crappy things are? Doesn't anyone else just get sick of it?
Party zone, indeed!
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January 21, 2003: Many Must Suffer For The Crimes Of The Few - After Some Negative Feeback, The Listener Punishing 'Party Zone' Is Launched. Also, Philly Boy Roy Checks In Post-Eagles Defeat, Tom Sings A Sad Song From 'Magnolia', And Some 'Two Towers' Bashing. Listen (http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=6366&archive=5879)
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What you are doing right now, pscan - challenging sacred cows - is exactly what Tom is trying to do each week (at least that's my take).
With all due respect (I do admire your willingness to take on the vox populi), there are knobs on your radio, pscan.
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I know it's futile to claim that I'm not trying to stir the pot, but I'm not.
I'm not saying that I'm sick of Tom or his opinions, just that I'd also like some more positivity in the mix. If that's a stupid thing to say, so be it. I love it when Tom gets a hold of something good (to continue the movie theme, his love of The Queen, for instance) and it just feels like it's been a long time since we got that particular spice.
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I know what you mean, pscan. I, too, love it to hear Tom go on from time to time about things that make him happy. But I think it is true, however unfortunately, that it is harder to be interesting/entertaining when one is waxing enthusiastic about something than when one is slamming what one dislikes. I don't know why this has to be so, and the fact that it is no doubt explains much of what's wrong with the human race, but it's the way it is.
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Abba.
Ghostface Killah.
PFT/ Patton Oswalt's stand up.
Dogmo.
Clifford.
Jay-Z.
No Country for Old Men.
Magnolia.
...just some things off the top of my head that I think Tom enjoys greatly.
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I know Tom likes things. I want more equal time for those things, that's all...
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Abba.
Ghostface Killah.
PFT/ Patton Oswalt's stand up.
Dogmo.
Clifford.
Jay-Z.
No Country for Old Men.
Magnolia.
...just some things off the top of my head that I think Tom enjoys greatly.
Tom's praise of NCfOM was actually somewhat muted. One of my fave positive film riffs from 2007 was Tom's love of Zodiac considering his previous attacks on Fincher's Fight Club.
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I know Tom likes things. I want more equal time for those things, that's all...
As a math guy, would it be pedantic of me to point out that there's no such thing as "more equal"?
Too late!
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it's threads like this that make me wish that Purple-Shit hadn't been banned. Oh, the fun I could have.
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Sorry Dave. I meant equal time in the colloquial sense, so I probably should have said something like "more 'equal time' for the things he loves."
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This thread is just silly.
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"I'm sorry, what was the topic again...?"
"There's really only one topic on this show. It's called, Complain."
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I probably should have said something like "more 'equal time' for the things he loves."
Nope, what you said originally--"more equal time"--was perfectly correct. DfK just misread.
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I probably should have said something like "more 'equal time' for the things he loves."
Nope, what you said originally--"more equal time"--was perfectly correct. DfK just misread.
Well, all time is created equal, but some time is more equal than others.
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Not at all what I meant, as I suspect you know. "Equal time" is a standard expression. "More" was functioning adjectivally to modify it. DfK instead understood "more" as an adverb modifyiing "equal," used adjectivally to modify the noun "time." Some writers, especially British ones, especially fifty or more years ago, would have avoided ambiguity by hyphenating "equal time." Of course back then "equal time" might have been a new enough expression that quoting it would have been justifiable, which also would have removed all confusion. But for pscan to quote it now would give the impression that it was being used in a sense other than that which has become standard and thus doing so would merely add another layer of murk.
Sorry about that. Just doing some warm-up exercises before getting to work. And since Jason has already declared this thread silly, I figure a little pointless pedantry will fit right in.
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Now spinning in the graveyard:
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3226451.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=27D044C0A019FA6C2FE56426BF8A191CA55A1E4F32AD3138)
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Is this also the place I mention that not only do I work at the same alt-weekly Diablo Cody used to work, I have her old phone number?
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Party Zone!
Yo T Sharps get some Tone Loc up in dis beyatch, aiight?
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Tom's praise of NCfOM was actually somewhat muted. One of my fave positive film riffs from 2007 was Tom's love of Zodiac considering his previous attacks on Fincher's Fight Club.
Okay, moreso Javier Bardem's Sonics-esque hairstyle.
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i know what this thread needs:
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-dog-camouflage.jpg)
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lolcats-funny-picture-baby-i-love-you.jpg)
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I explained to Christina The Yes fan what lolcats are last night, and I showed her some examples. She got creeped out, and so did I (just like when I first learned about them via Filthy Laurie)
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I wish he would talk more about puppy dogs and rainbows.
-Ajax
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I really do wish Tom would talk more about dogs, though. I love dogs, and I love the way Tom talks about them. His respect for them is so apparent: whenever he finds out that a caller has one, he asks its name. And remember when he would talk to people's dogs over the radio? I bet if that drunk woman had been less snockered last week, he would have been happy to let her dog have its moment in the Best Show sun.
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Me too! And rainbows. They are so pretty!
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For the record, I never meant to suggest that he talk about stupid stuff purely for the sake of positivity. Knee-jerk positivity is just as annoying as knee-jerk cynicism. Maybe more so.
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Wait! When did dogs and rainbows become stupid? Rainbows are cool. Once, when I was waiting tables at the Houlihans in Weehawken, I saw a rainbow that stretched from one end of Manhattan to the other. It was awesome.
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The only time rainbows are not pretty is when there is an evil leprechaun at the bottom waiting to kill you with a bong.
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Luckily for me the rainbow was gone by the end of my shift. I suppose the leprechaun would have been lurking in Staten Island.
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Wait! When did dogs and rainbows become stupid?
Since this:
http://www.upset-triangle.com/rainbow/
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Wait! When did dogs and rainbows become stupid?
Since this:
http://www.upset-triangle.com/rainbow/
Who allowed this to happen?
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Hey!
Kristen Schaal is a friend of mine!*
*On Myspace. I've never met her.
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I imagine you're quite thrilled.
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Tom likes plenty of stuff, like, Oreo Mcflurries, arugula, pottery and, oh yeah, the movie The Day After Tomorrow - haha. Tom devoted almost an entire show to how much he hates this movie. He actually invented a new word to describe how bad it is. I wish I could remember what it was, or what episode of The Best Show it was on. Anyone?
It was pretty funny.
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If there's one thing that needs to be spoiled, it's quirky indie movies.
"...quirk is everywhere because quirkiness is so easy to achieve: Just be odd … but endearing. It becomes a kind of psychographic marker, like wearing laceless Chuck Taylors or ironic facial hair—a self-satisfied pose that stands for nothing and doesn’t require you to take creative responsibility. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should."
Quirked Around
The unbearable lightness of Ira Glass, Wes Anderson, and other paragons of indie sensibility
BY MICHAEL HIRSCHORN
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200709/quirk
Tom was hardly alone in trashing Juno. Most critics loved it, but a few, dear to my heart, ripped it to shreds. Before Tom even mentioned it, I heard David Edelstein on Fresh Air give it one of the worst reviews I've ever heard.
(Tom has said that he likes the quirky indie movie godfather Wes Anderson. That's too bad. Rushmore was good, and I haven't seen Darjeeling, but the Royal Tenenbaums and Life Aquatic were ter-herr-ible. Don't get me wrong, they're masterpieces compared to Little Miss Sunshine or Garden State.)
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Any movie that is awfulsome is not bad.
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Are we just gonna talk about how crappy things are? Doesn't anyone else just get sick of it?
Nope. The culture-bashing is what makes the show so great. Don't you remember when Tom played "All You Need Is Love" right after his "I'm Not There" rant and tried to stay positive? A HI-larious moment to say the least when he tore that whole structure down after 3 calls.
You gotta cherish those moments, though, when Tom falls in love on the air. Take, for example, when Eddie called in about keeping fantasy football to yourself. Need I say more?
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Isn't difference of opinion a wonderful thing? The Royal Tenenbaums and Little Miss Sunshine are two favorites of mine, but I don't really mind if you hate them. Viva la difference!
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I finally watched the whole thing from start to finish. I had turned it off the first time when I Rainn Wilson's freakish visage spewed things like "homeskillet" and "your eggo is preggo."
Well, the dialogue sucked. That's what killed the movie for me. They put all of my favorite things in it: Unca Herschell Gordon Lewis (you haven't lived until you've watched The Gore Gore Girls with the man and his ex-wife, who is still best friends with HGL!), Kozyndan (I own an original and two limited edition prints), things that look like other things (cheeseburger phone!), Belle & Sebastian, Kimya Dawson (seeing her live a few years back Sweat Records was AMAZING -- I got a Kimya Dawson loves me tee shirt and a sweaty hug!), the Sonic Youth cover of "Superstar" (I've been putting that on mix tapes and CDs since 1998), Michael Cera (I've had a crush on him since ever since he said, "Go fish! ...Uno!") And still, I the movie's a turd.
Yikes.
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The only time rainbows are not pretty is when there is an evil leprechaun at the bottom waiting to kill you with a bong.
http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBA5A6F820310BBA79D9A9DB2C8DD48341
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things that look like other things (cheeseburger phone!)
Bah. I just watched Coming to America for the first time ever and discovered that John Amos rocked one of those to perfection 20 years ago.
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_wLSl8QMe2SE/R6pJo9c5sSI/AAAAAAAAAU4/pr43E3kLNjw/s1600/amos_juno.jpg)
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This is for everyone who is "obsessed" with Juno. (http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBFF21362306D9846A08EA432DC50D4844)
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This is for everyone who is "obsessed" with Juno. (http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBFF21362306D9846A08EA432DC50D4844)
That was awesome.
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This is for everyone who is "obsessed" with Juno. (http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBFF21362306D9846A08EA432DC50D4844)
That was awesome.
Seconded. Pure gold. The stripper-emperor has such silly clothes.
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Uh oh.
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This is for everyone who is "obsessed" with Juno. (http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBFF21362306D9846A08EA432DC50D4844)
That was awesome.
Seconded. Pure gold. The stripper-emperor has such silly clothes.
So on target, I just wish Cormac McCarthy stormed the stage and beat her with a copy of his books.
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"I'm shocked by the popularity of the film," she said.
"I mean, when you write basically an independent movie about, you know, a pregnant teenager and you make it for seven million dollars you never, ever think it's going to become this phenomenon."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7261803.stm
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I suppose I have some loose ties to her in a friend of friends sort of way ~ so deep down I'm inclined to cheer her on because you like to see folks in or near your circles do well for themselves.
As for Juno... haven't seen it. Part of that is... look, I'm simply not the demographic that a film about a pregnate teenage girl is reaching for. I simply can't relate to that on any level really. Not that I'm of a mind to blame anyone for that.
This is really what get's me though ~ my sentiment is similar to Laurie's:
I had turned it off the first time when I Rainn Wilson's freakish visage spewed things like "homeskillet" and "your eggo is preggo."
Creeeeepy. Seriously, *I* shouldn't be talking to teenage girls that way, that Rain Wilson guy doing it is just kind of obscene and weird. I can't believe the trailers keep falling back on that scene. Creeps me out. O_o
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I think you guys are taking Juno way too seriously. It's a quirky comedy and although that term is cringe worthy, the fact is that it's a comedy and not too many good ones come out these days. It's nice to see good comedy get recognized next to the high brow fare.
How many of you guys actually watched it? I just can't believe all of you hated it. I don't know...the dialogue does not seem that far fetched to me. I don't know maybe it's because I have a sister about that age.
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If I were a betting man I'd say the next good quirky comedy might very well be by the Coen Brothers. :)
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The New York Times yet again mentioned the stripper angle today in its write-up of the Oscar winners:
"The indie delight “Juno,” about a pregnant teenager with a mouth on her, won for best original screenplay, by Diablo Cody, who once worked as a stripper. She tearfully thanked her family for “loving me for who I am.”
Big deal. So did Guillermo del Toro. Enough already.
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The New York Times yet again mentioned the stripper angle today in its write-up of the Oscar winners:
I just saw that on the Times site and laughed out loud. Who wants to bet that within the next 5 years we'll get to see a Diablo Cody autobiopic about her hardscrabble life as a former stripper?
I, for one, cannot wait.
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Your wait is over, Pat K: http://www.amazon.com/Candy-Girl-Year-Unlikely-Stripper/dp/1592402739/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203961665&sr=8-2
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Oh great. It's great that somebody finally thought to do that. The mysterious world of strippers and strip clubs has gone unexamined for far too long. Except, you know, by movies, books, magazines, and TV shows. Other than that, though, it's about time that someone had the courage to blow the lid off that whole scene.
You know what sticks in my craw about that? The fact that you know that she was just doing it as a lark with the intention of writing about it later, just as a tourist to give herself an angle. It makes me think of the "Super Size Me" guy, or the woman who wrote that "Nickle and Dimed" book where she lived on the minimum wage for a year or whatever. All these new writers who build their careers on junk like that, where they just dip their toe into something and then cash in by coming up with the most obvious conclusions about it. (Suprise! Fast food is unhealthy! Being poor is hard! Strippers are people too! Yawn.)
Seriously, though, I can't wait for "Candy Girl: The Movie" next year. If only to see someone stripper-dancing to a Belle and Sebastian song.
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The blurb has to be read to be believed:
Why, you might ask, would a healthy, college-educated young woman start stripping for a living, when she could work in a nice, clean office? Cody, now an arts editor for Minneapolis's alternative weekly, had spent her whole life (all 24 years) "choking on normalcy, decency and Jif sandwiches with the crusts amputated." When she moved from Chicago to Minnesota to live with the new boyfriend she'd found on the "World Wide Waste of Time," she took a job at an ad agency—a setup with good "porn shui" (desk well angled for undetected online porn surfing) but not much else. Attracted by a local bar's amateur stripping contest, Cody soon moved from stage stripping to lap dancing, from tableside to bedside customer service and, finally, peep-show sex. Removing her clothes and dry-humping strangers in sex clubs had become her way of escaping premature respectability. Quite inexplicably, her boyfriend was completely cool with her new occupation, even joining her on occasional sex jaunts. When the inevitable burnout set in, Cody switched to phone sex, until that, too, got old, and the 9-to-5 straight world beckoned. Cody's so alarmingly entertaining, readers will wish the book were longer, though they'll be glad it ends before anything really ugly happens.
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Its hilarious when people say the stilted dialogue in Juno was designed to mimic the language of teenagers - because if you read any interviews with Diablo Cody, you realize that it's just the way she talks.
"world wide waste of time"
"choking on normalcy, decency and jif sandwiches with the crusts amputated"
"porn shui"
ugh
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I hope Juno is better than There Will Be Blood. I don't care what the critics say, that movie blew. Great filmography or whatever, but that's about it. Daniel Day-Lewis played Bill the Butcher Goes West and people fall over themselves. Come on.
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YOU come on.
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Great filmography or whatever, but that's about it.
Well, you certainly talk the talk, but I must disagree with you.
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You know what sticks in my craw about that? The fact that you know that she was just doing it as a lark with the intention of writing about it later, just as a tourist to give herself an angle.
Everybody hate's a tourist. Especially when she thinks it's all such a laugh.
Diablo wants to live like common people.
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I hope Juno is better than There Will Be Blood. I don't care what the critics say, that movie blew. Great filmography or whatever, but that's about it. Daniel Day-Lewis played Bill the Butcher Goes West and people fall over themselves. Come on.
I think you mean cinematography. Filmography means a list of films. Your new nickname: Cameron Diaz.
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Actually, "cinematography" is kind of passé. It's simply called "photography" these days.
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Actually, "cinematography" is kind of passé. It's simply called "photography" these days.
Maybe they could be condensed and unified a-la "meta" and "aggro" (or "ag" as some might prefer) with this catchy term:
Togra[noun]: shorthand for cinematography or photography. A newish "indie" slang term that implies the atristic elements observed in visual media. Ex: <The film won in four different categories including Best Director, Achievment in Sound Mixing, Best Original Song, and Togra.>
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I say we whoop gravy boat like Cher.
Too much, Gagneaux?
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(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1088/diablooscarsleepcr4.jpg)
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There are few things I hate more than picking inedible flowers off of my food. It's not garnish if I can't eat it, okay? You know what I hate even more than that? Diablo Cody's cloying dialogue. Yucky yuck yuck.
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...If only to see someone stripper-dancing to a Belle and Sebastian song.
thats not too far off from reality, i suppose. theres a girl in these parts they call, "The Death Cab Stripper" for her sensual rendition to a death cab for cutie song.
granted, i wasnt there. but i got to hear about.
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I know a girl in PDX who strips to a Stephin Merritt medley. The song "Underwear" is featured.
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If any Juno dislikers out there are looking for a way to make their own heads explode, please consider the following, via the NY Post (http://www.nypost.com/seven/02262008/gossip/pagesix/heel_revenge_99373.htm):
February 26, 2008 -- SOME fashionistas wondered why Oscar-winning screenwriter Diablo Cody wore flats with her leopard-print dress to the awards - but it was just her way of putting the screws to shoe designer Stuart Weitzman. Cody had been set to wear Weitzman's $1 million pair of diamond-encrusted heels. But when she found out she was being used for free p.r., she took to her MySpace page and fumed, "They're using me to publicize their stupid shoes and NOBODY ASKED ME. I would never consent to a lame publicity stunt at a time when I already want to hide. I'm sorry if I sound like a party-pooper, but Jeebus."
She had no idea that the people giving her free clothing to wear were just in it for the PUBLICITY.
On the upside, she really stuck it to that shoe designer by keeping this all so hush-hush.
Oh, wait.
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"Jeebus"?
I'm assuming she was wearing a Roberto Cavalli dress, seeing as how it was trashy as hell. Designers and fashion houses like Cavalli, Marchesa, and Carolina Herrera campaign REALLY hard to get their dresses on the red carpet. That's why they send you dresses for free or invite you to their ateliers for dresses made just for you? Why do you think assholes like Ryan Seacrest ask who you're wearing? BECAUSE IT MOVES DRESSES AT BERGDORF GOODMAN AND HENRI BENDEL. Jesus. Jeebus. JEEZ LOUISE.
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At the risk of further aggravating myself and others, here is the full blog post (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=301249153&blogID=360462900&Mytoken=5EF4D508-16D1-4328-B07641CBF5B9AC0A112437121) to which Page 6 refers. Unsurprisingly, it is full of kitschy slang and toilet talk...so proceed with caution:
Yesterday, my stylist took me to go try on my Oscar shoes, which were made for me by Stuart Weitzman. They were sparkly. Kind of retro. With hefty brooches to be affixed atop each narrow toebox. I was pleased, but it wasn't, like, an event.
Today, I read this (http://www.hollywood.com/news/Cody_to_Wear_Million_Dollar_Shoes_to_the_Oscars/5077754). NEWS TO ME, kids. I must have somehow missed the part where my shoes cost a MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS and my "choice" of footwear would be publicized nationwide. I honestly thought they were just sparkly shoes. Mr. Weitzman did mention that the diamonds were real when I tried them on, but I'm not Nancy Rockman, Expert Gemologist. I didn't, you know, bust out my miniature spyglass and assess the potential worth of my kicks.
I swear to God, I have the most bizarre life. Truly.
This looks really attention-whorey, and for once, I didn't do it on purpose.
I'm flattered that they picked me (surprise!) to wear the Pimp Shooz, but WTF, right?
ETA: I'm actually really pissed about this, now that I think about it. They're using me to publicize their stupid shoes and NOBODY ASKED ME. I would never consent to a lame publicity stunt at a time when I already want to hide. I'm sorry if I sound like a party-pooper, but Jeebus.
What kind of person am I that this makes me so angry?
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At the risk of further aggravating myself and others, here is the full blog post (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=301249153&blogID=360462900&Mytoken=5EF4D508-16D1-4328-B07641CBF5B9AC0A112437121) to which Page 6 refers. Unsurprisingly, it is full of kitschy slang and toilet talk...so proceed with caution:
Yesterday, my stylist took me to go try on my Oscar shoes, which were made for me by Stuart Weitzman. They were sparkly. Kind of retro. With hefty brooches to be affixed atop each narrow toebox. I was pleased, but it wasn't, like, an event.
Today, I read this (http://www.hollywood.com/news/Cody_to_Wear_Million_Dollar_Shoes_to_the_Oscars/5077754). NEWS TO ME, kids. I must have somehow missed the part where my shoes cost a MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS and my "choice" of footwear would be publicized nationwide. I honestly thought they were just sparkly shoes. Mr. Weitzman did mention that the diamonds were real when I tried them on, but I'm not Nancy Rockman, Expert Gemologist. I didn't, you know, bust out my miniature spyglass and assess the potential worth of my kicks.
I swear to God, I have the most bizarre life. Truly.
This looks really attention-whorey, and for once, I didn't do it on purpose.
I'm flattered that they picked me (surprise!) to wear the Pimp Shooz, but WTF, right?
ETA: I'm actually really pissed about this, now that I think about it. They're using me to publicize their stupid shoes and NOBODY ASKED ME. I would never consent to a lame publicity stunt at a time when I already want to hide. I'm sorry if I sound like a party-pooper, but Jeebus.
What kind of person am I that this makes me so angry?
The kind of person who knows that "Pimp Shooz" is a completely unacceptable term in every single sense?
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I admire her stand for not wearing the shoes. I haven't seen Juno yet but this young lady has my respect.
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I take back everything I ever said about Juno. This woman is keeping it real and is not letting the man get up in her grill (or down on her dawgz*!).
*feet
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I swear to God, she has the most bizarre life. Truly.
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The New York Times yet again mentioned the stripper angle today in its write-up of the Oscar winners:
"The indie delight “Juno,” about a pregnant teenager with a mouth on her, won for best original screenplay, by Diablo Cody, who once worked as a stripper. She tearfully thanked her family for “loving me for who I am.”
Big deal. So did Guillermo del Toro. Enough already.
Guillermo del Toro once worked as a stripper?!
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You know what sticks in my craw about that? The fact that you know that she was just doing it as a lark with the intention of writing about it later, just as a tourist to give herself an angle. It makes me think of the "Super Size Me" guy, or the woman who wrote that "Nickle and Dimed" book where she lived on the minimum wage for a year or whatever.
Pat K, I agree with everything you say, except for Barbara Ehrenreich (of Nickel and Dimed). It's perfectly legitimate to have a beef with how she did it, of course, but it wasn't a gimmick to sell books. She's been doing advocacy journalism and writing for big mainstream publications since the 1970s, and was probably as surprised as everyone when her book became a bestseller.
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At the risk of further aggravating myself and others, here is the full blog post (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=301249153&blogID=360462900&Mytoken=5EF4D508-16D1-4328-B07641CBF5B9AC0A112437121) to which Page 6 refers. Unsurprisingly, it is full of kitschy slang and toilet talk...so proceed with caution:
Yesterday, my stylist took me to go try on my Oscar shoes, which were made for me by Stuart Weitzman. They were sparkly. Kind of retro. With hefty brooches to be affixed atop each narrow toebox. I was pleased, but it wasn't, like, an event.
Today, I read this (http://www.hollywood.com/news/Cody_to_Wear_Million_Dollar_Shoes_to_the_Oscars/5077754). NEWS TO ME, kids. I must have somehow missed the part where my shoes cost a MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS and my "choice" of footwear would be publicized nationwide. I honestly thought they were just sparkly shoes. Mr. Weitzman did mention that the diamonds were real when I tried them on, but I'm not Nancy Rockman, Expert Gemologist. I didn't, you know, bust out my miniature spyglass and assess the potential worth of my kicks.
I swear to God, I have the most bizarre life. Truly.
This looks really attention-whorey, and for once, I didn't do it on purpose.
I'm flattered that they picked me (surprise!) to wear the Pimp Shooz, but WTF, right?
ETA: I'm actually really pissed about this, now that I think about it. They're using me to publicize their stupid shoes and NOBODY ASKED ME. I would never consent to a lame publicity stunt at a time when I already want to hide. I'm sorry if I sound like a party-pooper, but Jeebus.
What kind of person am I that this makes me so angry?
The kind of person who knows that "Pimp Shooz" is a completely unacceptable term in every single sense?
Aw, man, I was totally going to wear my pimp shooz to the next FOT meetup.
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Aw, man, I was totally going to wear my pimp shooz to the next FOT meetup.
Man, I hope they weren't Nu Shooz.
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Aw, man, I was totally going to wear my pimp shooz to the next FOT meetup.
Man, I hope they weren't Nu Shooz.
They're made of enriched uranium. I swear to God, I have the most bizarre life. Truly.
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Pat K, I agree with everything you say, except for Barbara Ehrenreich (of Nickel and Dimed).
Yeah, perhaps I was a little hasty in lumping her into that group. I still think her M.O. for that book was a bit cheesy, but I suppose she does have a much better journalistic pedigree than Diablo Cody. Point taken.
Though, I still think it was odd in "Nickel and Dimed" how she kept referring to her other coworkers as "Homeskillet", but that's just me.
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What kind of person are you that Diablo Cody makes you this angry?
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Anyone got a link to a video of her accepting the oscar? Can't seem to find it. Did she thank Kevin Smith?
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/27/film.diablocody.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/27/film.diablocody.ap/index.html)
Good to see Jackie Clarke get a mention.
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What kind of person are you that Diablo Cody makes you this angry?
The only people who matter, Gravy Boat: FOT.
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I lol'd (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-cody-screenplay.php).
I cried (http://defamer.com/352559/diablo-codys-next-catchphrase-fried-bologna-is-the-bomb).
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I lol'd (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-cody-screenplay.php).
I cried (http://defamer.com/352559/diablo-codys-next-catchphrase-fried-bologna-is-the-bomb).
OMG I totally posted the first link to my facebook page. Srsly.
No, seriously.
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I lol'd (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-cody-screenplay.php).
I cried (http://defamer.com/352559/diablo-codys-next-catchphrase-fried-bologna-is-the-bomb).
OMG I totally posted the first link to my facebook page. Srsly.
No, seriously.
You took my signature! I guess I'll have to settle for a lesser quote.
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January 21, 2003: Many Must Suffer For The Crimes Of The Few - After Some Negative Feeback, The Listener Punishing 'Party Zone' Is Launched. Also, Philly Boy Roy Checks In Post-Eagles Defeat, Tom Sings A Sad Song From 'Magnolia', And Some 'Two Towers' Bashing. Listen (http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=6366&archive=5879)
A classic. I miss the Amy Mann days. I heart when Tom sings.
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I think that's spelled M-a-n
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I suspect that people unwittingly empower her when they assume she's being naïve.
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I dunno, she seems pretty down to earth to me:
http://jezebel.com/359791/behind-the-scenes-of-juno-with-diablo-cody
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From Cnnsi.com's Monday Morning Quarterback with Peter King making some general comments at the end. This is why I hate most sports writers. Just write about sports and leave your soft side for your family or whoever else cares to listen to your thoughts about anything other than sports.
b. Saw Juno. Loved Juno. My favorite movie of the past year, by far. Intelligent, touching, moving, real, beautiful, incredibly poignant. I had no idea who Ellen Page was, but her acting job in the title role was so genuine, charismatic and perceptive that I'll go see any movie she's in 'til she's 70.
Remember, I'm an apologist for Juno but none of what he said is the reason why. Incredibly poignant. Geez. Maybe I can understand why you guys hate it so much if that's what people are saying about it.
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"Maybe I can understand why you guys hate it so much if that's what people are saying about it. " Pep[le here don't like it because Tom didn't like it. Lemnings.
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"Maybe I can understand why you guys hate it so much if that's what people are saying about it. " Pep[le here don't like it because Tom didn't like it. Lemnings.
This may be true for some people... but The Best Show & it's listeners oppose pedestrian entertainment. And that's what Juno is (along with all the other tripe Tom/Jon slog on-air).
Also... use the preview function.
thank you.
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"Maybe I can understand why you guys hate it so much if that's what people are saying about it. " Pep[le here don't like it because Tom didn't like it. Lemnings.
I like Steely Dan, Al Green, the Band, Death Proof, the soundtrack to Scarface and the odd Tom Waits album here and there.
What I do not like is suffocatingly precious and convoluted dialogue that sounds like it should be coming from the offspring of an autistic Family Guy scriptwriter and Moon Unit Zappa in "Valley Girl".
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"Maybe I can understand why you guys hate it so much if that's what people are saying about it. " Pep[le here don't like it because Tom didn't like it. Lemnings.
No, actually, I saw the preview while the audience for Before The Devil Knows You're Dead (another stinker, incidentally - note the post date in case Tom later sees that and hates it), about two weeks before Tom said anything about it. People in the audience were CRACKING UP at the shitty jokes in the preview, and I loudly said to my wife, "really?"
Also, what Stupornaut said, except substitute Frank Zappa for Death Proof, and I like pretty much all of Waits' albums.
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I don't think Juno can be called pedestrian... You might not like the movie but it's hardly standard fare and considering that 99 percent of comedy movies are absolutely terrible I don't really understand how it can be considered terrible comparatively. Was it the greatest comedy in years or Oscar worthy? No. But, it wasn't a bad movie either.
Gravy, most of us agree with Tom's tastes most of the time so it's not that we're lemmings to take his word for something. It's just like a friend you have who has the same tastes and tells you not to go see a movie or listen to an album. You tend to listen to their advice.
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I agree with Gilly- I had no problem with Juno until it started getting so many accolades. Now I hate the movie because it seems like everyone around me is drinking crazy juice!
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i think i loathe peter king's non-sports opinions as much as i respect tom's opinions. so the fact that peter king loves juno just makes me hate the movie more.
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"Tom Sheeplings" LOL
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i think this thread is QED that we fans are not sheep.
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Tom hating Juno is like a bonus for me thinking it looked terrible and knowing that everyone I know would go see it and think it was pretty good. Now I think the Juno-bashing has obviously taken on a life of its own, but I think it's fair to say that some people share a sensibility that may not be understood by everyone else, and those people flock together. My earliest Best Show listening had a lot to do with Tom Scharpling being literally the only person in the entire entertainment universe who shared my opinion that The Lord of the Rings was boring garbage. Please see the "Apologist Thread" for complete listings of things FOT's allow themselves to like even though Tom Scharpling doesn't.
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I'm glad you mentioned the Lord of the Rings rant - I'm listening to it now. Back in the days when GOMPs were accompanied by the sound of flushing. Bring that back!
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My earliest Best Show listening had a lot to do with Tom Scharpling being literally the only person in the entire entertainment universe who shared my opinion that The Lord of the Rings was boring garbage.
The Zorn thing did it for me.
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John Corbett has been tapped to star opposite Toni Collette in Showtime's comedy pilot "United States of Tara."
The project, from Oscar-winning writer Diablo Cody, centers on Tara (Collette), a woman with a multiple personality disorder.
Corbett will play her husband, Max Gregor, a ruggedly handsome contractor who lives a life of stress and tries to read as much as he can about his wife's condition.
The role is familiar territory for Corbett, who played hunky carpenter Aidan Shaw on HBO's "Sex and the City."
It also extends the actor's relationship with Showtime. He starred in the cable network's 2006 pilot "Manchild."
Craig Gillespie is directing the pilot for "Tara," which is slated to begin production in April in Los Angeles.
Corbett, who recently signed to co-star in the indie romantic comedy "Baby on Board," is repped by CAA and Steve Lovett Management.
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Like Tom, I wish we could just let 'Juno' die. But today:
http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2270052,00.html
Juno B-Sides: Almost Adopted Songs is a 15-track compilation of cute, folky, whimsical songs, made of the same wry stuff as the unexpected hit soundtrack of earlier this year. Kimya Dawson, who headlined that album, is back with two songs. Repeat performances are also in from Belle and Sebastian, Barry Louis Polisar and Buddy Holly.
"None of these songs made the movie," director Jason Reitman explains in the liner notes, "but they are all essential members of the Junoverse." Yes, he uses the word Junoverse.
Ellen Page, who played the film's title character, sings a song called Zub Zub - written by screenwriter Diablo Cody but left on the cutting-room floor. It's about how Juno got pregnant, and is of course punctuated with kooky neologisms and Juno's endearing deadpan humour. (Which is to say that it's cute but essentially redundant.)
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ugh. reading that makes me want to gag.
"JUNOVERSE"!? really!?
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I think some Junoverse fan fiction is in order.
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I think some Junoverse fan fiction is in order.
I know that it's not.
I just started working at an old theater that shows movies and hosts comedians. Next week I'll be bartending during five double-bills of Juno and There Will be Blood.
Call me a Scheepling if you will, but I also think that There Will be Blood is an all-time great film and that Juno is worse than shut the hell up.
After next week, they'll be forever linked in my subconscious!
I don't like it. >:(
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ugh. reading that makes me want to gag.
"JUNOVERSE"!? really!?
Now I feel even worse that we never finished forming the Plunkosphere.
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I am thisclose to taking Juno out of my quequeque and not even bothering with it. I have felt up until this point that it is only fair to watch it, but JEEZ.
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OK, Dorvid, you're right. What I really meant was that there should be Junoverse/View Askewniverse crossover fan fiction.
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You spelled "queueueueue" wrong, Beth.
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You spelled "queueueueue" wrong, Beth.
I just type q's u's and e's now and hope something comes out of it.
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It's just more fun with only one "q." That's what I look for in spelling: fun.
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I happen to like q's.
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Then it's pistols at sunrise, I guess.
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You're on.
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Do you have a pistol I can borrow?
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I have a water pistol. We should wait for warmer weather.
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Yeah. Maybe we could do it at the beach and make a party of it. What do you think? FOT get-together; dueling optional?
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One of us should start a beach-dueling-water-pistols FOT meet up thread.
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I actually live near a beach. It's very uncomfortable--mostly stones not sand--and the water is ice cold, but it does qualify.
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I actually live near a beach. It's very uncomfortable--mostly stones not sand--and the water is ice cold, but it does qualify.
Are you kidding? That's the best kind for dueling. What use is a beach where the loser doesn't fall down on/into something uncomfortable?
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True. It's just not quite as suitable for the party part of the event.
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It's a whole new thread.
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I was just about to share this ridiculous photo of a New Jersey mall I went to not long ago that had banners hanging all over the place for a certain movie, as well as a Pepsi Zone below. But now I will make the appropriate find and replace to update it with this awesome update.
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It's available on pay-per-view now. $4.99 is too rich for my blood, though; I'll just have to wait till it airs on a station I get.
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Boy, this thread is confusing. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how Under Siege 2 had sparked so much passion from FOTs.
But I got it now.
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John Corbett has been tapped to star opposite Toni Collette in Showtime's comedy pilot "United States of Tara."
The project, from Oscar-winning writer John Ford, centers on Tara (Collette), a woman with a multiple personality disorder.
Corbett will play her husband, Max Gregor, a ruggedly handsome contractor who lives a life of stress and tries to read as much as he can about his wife's condition.
The role is familiar territory for Corbett, who played hunky carpenter Aidan Shaw on HBO's "Sex and the City."
It also extends the actor's relationship with Showtime. He starred in the cable network's 2006 pilot "Manchild."
Craig Gillespie is directing the pilot for "Tara," which is slated to begin production in April in Los Angeles.
Corbett, who recently signed to co-star in the indie romantic comedy "Baby on Board," is repped by CAA and Steve Lovett Management.
Apparently Showtime has now committed to a full season of this.
As someone who didn't even hate Juno that much, I still cringe at the thought of 12 episodes of her writing.