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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gagneaux on June 24, 2008, 06:14:01 PM
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I read online today that Quinten Tarantino wants Inglorious Bastards finished in time for Cannes 2009. It doesn't have a cast yet, so he'd better get moving.
My good will towards Tarantino isn't used up yet, but I am nervous about him making a "modern, in-your-face" WWII movie.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=46281
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I hear it's going to be split into two, ala Kill Bill.
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I hear it's going to be split into two, ala Kill Bill.
I hate that.
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Back when Pulp Fiction came out, I might have been caught supposing Tarantino had the potential to be our generation's Scorcese or something.
Boy did he squander that.
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I hear it's going to be split into two, ala Kill Bill.
Naaaahh...REALLY?
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It already came out in 1977.
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/adg/cov200/dru500/u587/u58700r7tyi.jpg)
Plot Synopsis by Hal Erickson
Inglorious Bastards was the alternate title for the Italian adventure yarn Counterfeit Commandos. The main characters are five soldiers facing court-martial in World War II France. The quintet consists of Bo Svenson, Fred Williamson, Peter Hooten, Michael Pergolami and Jackie Baseheart. The men escape, heading to the safety of the Swiss border; along the way, they pull off several random acts of above-and-beyond heroism.
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I am nervous about him making a "modern, in-your-face" WWII movie.
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I am nervous about him making a "modern, in-your-face" WWII movie.
Haha!
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New York magazine has procured a copy of the script (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/weve_got_quentin_tarantinos_in.html). How can you tell it's authentic? Look at that spelling:
(http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/10/images/09_inglouriousbastards1_lg.jpg)
This board now needs an "Inglourious Basterds" filter.
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QT is a moron.
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Look at that spelling:
Not to be a grammar Nazi but... are you fucking kidding me??? If I were an aspiring writer, I'd have died a little inside just now.
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I hear it's going to be split into two, ala Kill Bill.
I hate that.
well...it works in a marketing sense.
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We wondered at times if this script was a fake, and it's still possible that it is — but if so, it's such a skillful fake that the author has even mastered Tarantino's ability to write moments that seem almost like parodies of his own tastes. Such as, for example, our favorite moment in the screenplay, with a mix of fetishism and inspired comedy that feels authentically alive. Late in chapter four, the Nazis are preparing Shosanna's movie theater for its big premiere, and Goebbels tells her that he appreciates "the modesty of this auditorium." Then he suggests sprucing the place up a bit, with a chandelier from Versailles and a couple of Greek nudes from the Louvre scattered around the lobby. A quick montage shows this happening, and then Tarantino describes the result:
We see Workers trying with incredible difficulty, to hoist the huge, heavy, and twinkingly fragile chandelier, in Shosannas auditorium, which now resembles something out of one of Tinto Brass's Italian B-movie rip-off's of Visconti's "The Damned".
Well, at least he's bringing some originality to the table.
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QT is one of those guys I can easily understand why people hate, but I still find some of his movies to be very entertaining. Not original or genius, but at least fun.
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QT is one of those guys I can easily understand why people hate, but I still find some of his movies to be very entertaining. Not original or genius, but at least fun.
I agree with this. It's pretty much the same relationship I have with Tom Waits - I like some of his stuff, but 99% of the criticism that I hear about him I can completely empathize with. Or, as an old topic put it, "So help me, I LIKE IT!"
That being said, ever since I heard it a few years ago, I've always thought that "Inglorious Bastards" is one of the all-time worst movie titles I've ever heard.
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Oh barf. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2509196/Britney-Spears-to-play-lesbian-killer-in-Quentin-Tarantino-film.html)
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Eugggh.. That's horrible news!
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Tarantino is in discussions with other Hollywood stars to take the roles of the remaining two strippers.
The way things are going he'll probably end up having to cast Jaye P. Morgan and Eli Roth.
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(http://www.freedomdogs.com/images/stories/resizedmickey.jpg)
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Well I, for one (and I'm probably the only one) think this is awesome.
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I'm a huge and unapologetic fan of Blackout, but Britney Spears as an actress in a Tarantino film? I don't know about that.
I don't get why you guys hate Tarantino so much. Death Proof was pretty horrible but I've liked everything else.
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I'm a huge and unapologetic fan of Blackout, but Britney Spears as an actress in a Tarantino film? I don't know about that.
I think it rules. And I haven't liked a Britney album since In the Zone. She's just as much of a mess as Tura Satana was, and lord knows she has the tits for it. They both do the trashy-pop-princess-brunette thing pretty well, too. A little makeup, and Britney will be fine.
(http://www.danwhaley.co.uk/images/tura.jpg)
(http://www.jaunted.com/files/5957/1030_britney_spears_halloween_03.jpg)
Plus neither can act. I'll bet Tarantino will make it work.
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I didn't like Britney minus a few songs before Blackout. Blackout is so good. If anybody not named Britney Spears made that (and the truth is that the producers deserve all the credit) it would have been a blockbuster and I think critics would have been all over it as well.
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I much preferred In the Zone to Blackout. I though "Gimme More", "You Wanna Piece of Me" and all the others pale in comparison to "Toxic," "Early Mornin'," "Breathe on Me," "Touch of My Hand," etc. Especially "You Wanna Piece of Me". Ick.
I wanted to like that album, I really did, but I just couldn't get into it. Everything about it seemed weird and forced. I know Britney has never played a big part in making her records, but Blackout sounds like it was made by a bunch of tired robots who had access to way too many vocal effects.
Britney was a great album too, minus that terrible cover of "I Love Rock n' Roll". I mean, I think "I'm A Slave 4 U" puts every Britney song (or album) to shame, come to think of it.
I know that you guys aren't going to take anything I say seriously after this. Sorry.
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Spears as Tarantino's latest reform project is kinda obvious and not that exciting, but whatever. My real problem with the news is why remake Faster Pussycat Kill Kill at all? What could Tarantino do to possibly improve it? Is replacing the hammy dialogue with speeches about the best malt shop in LA really going to do it? Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
For the record, I wouldn't exactly call myself a Tarantino hater. I LOVE Jackie Brown. I don't think Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction have aged well at all (the last time I saw Pulp Fiction I was embarrassed) but I thought Kill Bill had fun moments.
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Do we really need ANOTHER WWII movie? WWII movie = America is awesome at war, and thus everything else. Vietnam movie = America is bad at war, and everything else.
"The troubled singer director will also have a movie produced in hopes of having sex scenes with another girl before the drama ends in a blood-bath."
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Tarantino is like a lot of the stuff that I really liked in high school, like Bukowski.
Still good, but nowhere near one of the greats.
And the pop cultural dialog that does nothing to advance the plot or develop any underlying theme angle bugs me.
Michael Mann should make a war movie.
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Spears as Tarantino's latest reform project is kinda obvious and not that exciting, but whatever. My real problem with the news is why remake Faster Pussycat Kill Kill at all? What could Tarantino do to possibly improve it? Is replacing the hammy dialogue with speeches about the best malt shop in LA really going to do it? Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
For the record, I wouldn't exactly call myself a Tarantino hater. I LOVE Jackie Brown. I don't think Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction have aged well at all (the last time I saw Pulp Fiction I was embarrassed) but I thought Kill Bill had fun moments.
I agree with you about it not being that exciting but I don't think you can say it's "obvious", especially since she's not really an actress (and no, Crossroads doesn't count).
I'm with you on the love for Jackie Brown. I haven't seen Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction in at least 5 years but I can imagine that you're probably right in saying they haven't aged well. I really enjoyed Kill Bill Vol. 1 and I'm one of the few people I know that enjoyed Death Proof (mostly because of my love for Kurt Russell, but yeah, a lot of the dialogue was just lame). I'm always interested in seeing what QT is up to, but I'm really not that excited to see his take on WWII or Russ Meyer.
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I'm really looking forward to this, because I loved Death Proof, but I always just wished it had MORE TALK.
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Spears as Tarantino's latest reform project is kinda obvious and not that exciting, but whatever. My real problem with the news is why remake Faster Pussycat Kill Kill at all? What could Tarantino do to possibly improve it? Is replacing the hammy dialogue with speeches about the best malt shop in LA really going to do it? Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
For the record, I wouldn't exactly call myself a Tarantino hater. I LOVE Jackie Brown. I don't think Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction have aged well at all (the last time I saw Pulp Fiction I was embarrassed) but I thought Kill Bill had fun moments.
I agree with you about it not being that exciting but I don't think you can say it's "obvious", especially since she's not really an actress (and no, Crossroads doesn't count).
I'm with you on the love for Jackie Brown. I haven't seen Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction in at least 5 years but I can imagine that you're probably right in saying they haven't aged well. I really enjoyed Kill Bill Vol. 1 and I'm one of the few people I know that enjoyed Death Proof (mostly because of my love for Kurt Russell, but yeah, a lot of the dialogue was just lame). I'm always interested in seeing what QT is up to, but I'm really not that excited to see his take on WWII or Russ Meyer.
I really like the idea of it. This is one of those things that could be awesome, or an absolute trainwreck. Either way, I'm there. Death Proof was the only thing he's done that I didn't like as much (it actually kind of felt like he remade Faster, Pussycat already with that thing)--but in the context of Grindhouse, it was okay, because of the surrounding atmosphere of Planet Terror, which I did like, and the hilarious fake trailers, like Zombie Women of the S.S.. Within the greater picture, it fit.
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this movie is going to kick a million tons of ass. i saw the original the other day, and it's got a scene where naked chicks fire machine guns and it makes their tits giggle. there was other good stuff in the movie too. it's a total winner.
you guys shouldn't be assholes to tarantino. you can't expect every band or filmmaker or artist -- especially ones who make early masterpieces -- to always make shit that's as good as their best. in the 15 years he's been making movies, tarantino's made
reservoir dogs - decent cool
pulp fiction - awesome
jackie brown - masterpiece
kill bill - decent cool
deathproof - some cool parts
even if you think three of his five suck total asshole, that still leaves two great films. if any of you losers had managed to make two great films in your lives, i'd think you were pretty cool.
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you're a twerp.
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and i'm sure one day you'll finally leave the computer and prove to the world how much more talented you are than quentin tarantino.
i'm sorry. that sounded mean. i take it back. i just think people shit on tarantino all the time. it's true that his last few movies haven't been as good as his best ones. but can you point to any directors who've managed to make nothing but masterpieces? maybe it's just part of the creative process... some shit's great, some not so much. maybe tarantino just needs a personal shake-up in his life to get him on a new creative track.
anyways, the point is... he's made great shit. he'll make great shit again. don't be a pissy little baby about it.
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can you point to any directors who've managed to make nothing but masterpieces?
I love QT too buddy! But Kill Bill was unwatchable. And yes some directors don't slack off like he did. Michael Bay has made nothing but great explosive movies. No moss under that guy.
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Tom has said a number of times that just about the stupidest argument is "Hey man, why don't you make a movie/write a book/record an album/etc." He's right. You don't need any special standing to say that stuff stinks.
Tarantino is the kind of guy that seemed fresh for a while, but now seems stale. In a couple of years maybe it'll balance out. Maybe one of his movies will still be seen as a "masterpiece" in the future, but I doubt it.
He's just a guy making some movies. Not great, not awful.
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Tom has said a number of times that just about the stupidest argument is "Hey man, why don't you make a movie/write a book/record an album/etc." He's right. You don't need any special standing to say that stuff stinks.
well shit... i didn't realize that lord jesus h. tom had already spoken in the matter. i officially withdraw my opinion. tarantino is stooopid because some guy on the internet said so.
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Tom has said a number of times that just about the stupidest argument is "Hey man, why don't you make a movie/write a book/record an album/etc." He's right. You don't need any special standing to say that stuff stinks.
well shit... i didn't realize that lord jesus h. tom had already spoken in the matter. i officially withdraw my opinion. tarantino is stooopid because some guy on the internet said so.
(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2358/a3nc2.jpg)
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He's just a guy making some movies. Not great, not awful.
True dat.
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Normally Quentin T would wait 20 years after someones burnout to cast them. This is a brave new start for the auteur.
Or maybe he knows something we don't. His movies are pop-culture junkyards, I just thought the old girl had a little more life in her than that.
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Anybody see Tarantino on Turner Classic Movies doing some 30minute interview with Elvis Mitchell? It was pretty good since he didn't talk just about how crappy b-movies influenced him (which is usually all I'll hear about). He stuck to melodramas and talked a lot about Douglas Sirk stuff.
It's cool that he's knowledgeable but it makes one wish he could be a film buff in the Scorsese mode where he has lots of influences but doesn't just rip off old movies to make homages.
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It's cool that he's knowledgeable but it makes one wish he could be a film buff in the Scorsese mode where he has lots of influences but doesn't just rip off old movies to make homages.
Yeah. When I watched Pulp Fiction the first time I thought, I can't wait for the next movie this guy makes. I didn't think, what style is this guy going to honor next? Even though I liked Kill Bill, he's a talented director and I wish he'd pave his own path instead of trying to make other people's direction his own. He's been wanting to make this one for a long time, maybe this is the movie that scratches his itch and he'll start focusing on making original movies.
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a million tons of ass.
That's the working title of QT's next project after he poops out this WWII thing.
tits giggle
... and that's the next one on the docket ...
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Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
I really hope you were kidding about this. QT isn't my favorite by any means, but comparing him to Kevin Smith is really throwing him under the bus. Before he started making exploitation movie tributes, he had a lot of style, I thought.
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One could argue he was nothing but style.
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One could argue he was nothing but style.
i agree with that to an extent. but his best movie by far JACKIE BROWN had a lot of emotional substance too i thought. that movie is damned heartbreaking. he reinvented blaxploitation and turned it into epic movie making!
i think the story for inglorious bastards is awesome. and i think it'll totally play to tarantino's strengths. maybe the characters will be more personal for tarantino.
he's an awesome talent. so what if he makes some lackluster movies. EVERY director does the same shit at some point in their career. i don't give a shit as long as he's having fun and making things. if he wants to make a ninja movie, well shit, who am i to tell the guy he can't? he worked his ass off, accomplished tons and got to a place where hollywood assholes would give him 80 million bucks to make a ninja movie. i'd rather them spend their money on that than some retarded piece of shit with tim allen.
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maybe tarantino just needs a personal shake-up in his life to get him on a new creative track.
Let's hope, for QT's sake, that he's locking his doors and windows at night, and arming his security system. And maybe even having someone else open his mail for him - I think Raad_Man's got his number.
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i'd rather them spend their money on that than some retarded piece of shit with tim allen.
I really hope you aren't taking a swipe at Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause.
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brad pitt just signed on to star!!! fuck yeah, that kicks ass.
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Spears as Tarantino's latest reform project is kinda obvious and not that exciting, but whatever. My real problem with the news is why remake Faster Pussycat Kill Kill at all? What could Tarantino do to possibly improve it? Is replacing the hammy dialogue with speeches about the best malt shop in LA really going to do it? Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
For the record, I wouldn't exactly call myself a Tarantino hater. I LOVE Jackie Brown. I don't think Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction have aged well at all (the last time I saw Pulp Fiction I was embarrassed) but I thought Kill Bill had fun moments.
I agree with you about it not being that exciting but I don't think you can say it's "obvious", especially since she's not really an actress (and no, Crossroads doesn't count).
I wasn't saying the choice of Spears was obvious as much as his attempting to "save" a fallen star by casting him/her in one of his movies ala Travolta in Pulp Fiction, Grier in Jackie Brown, Carradine in Kill Bill. It's a pattern with him and his choice of Britney Spears for the role fits the pattern. That's all I was saying.
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Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
I really hope you were kidding about this. QT isn't my favorite by any means, but comparing him to Kevin Smith is really throwing him under the bus. Before he started making exploitation movie tributes, he had a lot of style, I thought.
Maybe being a little bit of a jerk about it, but not really kidding. I'd stand by the general sentiment, that his movies aren't very visually exciting.
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Most of the charm of the original is Meyer's unique visual style, and we all know Tarantino as a visual filmmaker ranks somewhere around Kevin Smith level.
I really hope you were kidding about this. QT isn't my favorite by any means, but comparing him to Kevin Smith is really throwing him under the bus. Before he started making exploitation movie tributes, he had a lot of style, I thought.
Maybe being a little bit of a jerk about it, but not really kidding. I'd stand by the general sentiment, that his movies aren't very visually exciting.
what's visually exciting to you then?
I honestly want to know because your statement confuses me.
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what's visually exciting to you then?
I honestly want to know because your statement confuses me.
There Will Be Blood. The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford. No Country for Old Men (just about everything by the Coens, actually). I like plenty of older stuff too, but I figured you were looking for things chronologically closer to QT's output.
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
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QT wasn't even innovative out of the gate. Reservoir Dogs was just a re-make of some Japanease play. His peak was Pulp Fiction.
Just my opinion, mind you. I would love to see him top it. By "top it", I mean "do better". Not go Over-The-Top. I don't think he gets that distinction.
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
Ditto on that first part. Plus: Samm Levine just got cast. So we've got:
Brad Pitt
Mike Myers
BJ Novak
Simon Pegg
Eli Roth
Samm Levine
???
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
Ditto on that first part. Plus: Samm Levine just got cast. So we've got:
Brad Pitt
Mike Myers
BJ Novak
Simon Pegg
Eli Roth
Samm Levine
???
Hahahaha, what the fuck is this!?
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
Ditto on that first part. Plus: Samm Levine just got cast. So we've got:
Brad Pitt
Mike Myers
BJ Novak
Simon Pegg
Eli Roth
Samm Levine
???
Hahahaha, what the fuck is this!?
it's the equivalent of the soups FOTs like to make.
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Pegg apparently dropped out due to a scheduling conflict. QT will replace him with Jeff Fahey.
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Were there justice in the world his career would have cratered after he wrote 'True Romance'. That is some embarassingly bad writing there. As is he tapped into the comic book store loser demographic which history has shown us has substantial disposable income.
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Justice. Right.
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
Ditto on that first part. Plus: Samm Levine just got cast. So we've got:
Brad Pitt
Mike Myers
BJ Novak
Simon Pegg
Eli Roth
Samm Levine
???
I really don't see why he's casting so many actors that primarily do comedy for a war movie. I know Eli Roth is one of Tarantino's lame Hollywood friends but the fact that he's casted for a role with a name (Sgt. Donnie Donowitz) makes me fear that he's got a fairly big part.
The worst part about Myers being in this is that his character is British. I wouldn't be surprised if he just uses the bad Austin Powers accent.
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"Sgt. Donnie Donowitz"
I don't want to see this movie purely on account of this terrible name. Really, QT? Are you really sure that name is war-movie-ish enough there?
Sgt. Donnie Donowitz......Sgt Donnie Donowitz!
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simon pegg would make it awesome. or at least simon pegg is awesome enough that if he was in it, i would see it in theatres for sure.
is bj novak some secret great actor? i have no problem with the guy and the office is fine but i don't get that, why on some websites people see that as being cool, his possible placement. he's not a has been, could be a not yet, but doubt it.
if tarantino is trying to use people in films who aren't already popular or tired hacks, than at least that's a step for him. (bj novak though? kinda hope he'll be revelatory now)
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Profile in the Atlantic. (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/tarantino-nazis)
“I hate that hand-wringing shit,” he said. He had a revelation in his early 20s, he recalled, when he saw Red Dawn, a Cold War revenge fantasy in which a group of American high-school students, the “Wolverines,” battle Soviet and Central American soldiers who invade Colorado. “The Wolverines capture a soldier, and there’s a little bit of back-and-forth—should we kill him or not—and C. Thomas Howell just blows him away with his shotgun,” Tarantino recalled. “Those are the kind of things you say, ‘That’s exactly what I would do.’ It’s what I want to see, and when I don’t see it, I become frustrated, and then it feels like a movie as opposed to real life.”
He went on, “When you watch all the different Nazi movies, all the TV movies, it’s sad, but isn’t it also frustrating? Did everybody walk into the boxcar? Didn’t somebody do something?”
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Profile in the Atlantic. (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/tarantino-nazis)
“I hate that hand-wringing shit,” he said. He had a revelation in his early 20s, he recalled, when he saw Red Dawn, a Cold War revenge fantasy in which a group of American high-school students, the “Wolverines,” battle Soviet and Central American soldiers who invade Colorado. “The Wolverines capture a soldier, and there’s a little bit of back-and-forth—should we kill him or not—and C. Thomas Howell just blows him away with his shotgun,” Tarantino recalled. “Those are the kind of things you say, ‘That’s exactly what I would do.’ It’s what I want to see, and when I don’t see it, I become frustrated, and then it feels like a movie as opposed to real life.”
He went on, “When you watch all the different Nazi movies, all the TV movies, it’s sad, but isn’t it also frustrating? Did everybody walk into the boxcar? Didn’t somebody do something?”
Further proof that QT belongs in a mental institution.
J-Wells on IB (http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2009/08/jew_dogs.php).
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Oh dear Jesus. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990590.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Now I officially can't get my mind around this any further. But I WILL see it.
Ditto on that first part. Plus: Samm Levine just got cast. So we've got:
Brad Pitt
Mike Myers
BJ Novak
Simon Pegg
Eli Roth
Samm Levine
???
I really don't see why he's casting so many actors that primarily do comedy for a war movie. I know Eli Roth is one of Tarantino's lame Hollywood friends but the fact that he's casted for a role with a name (Sgt. Donnie Donowitz) makes me fear that he's got a fairly big part.
The worst part about Myers being in this is that his character is British. I wouldn't be surprised if he just uses the bad Austin Powers accent.
I don't think so. I've read a couple of in-depth interviews with Mike Myers and his parents are anglos, so I'm sure he's got a rich background of voices and accents to draw from. P.S. I am not a Myers fan, just saying.
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That's a good piece from the Atlantic. I like the author's little dialogue with QT about torture. That man is just not a deep thinker.
What seems so icky to me about Basterds is the air of condescension it gives off. Like if some white filmmaker made a movie where Martin Luther King beats the shit out of James Earl Ray and then was all like "There, don't all you poor blacks feel so much better now? You're welcome!"
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is bj novak some secret great actor? i have no problem with the guy and the office is fine but i don't get that, why on some websites people see that as being cool, his possible placement. he's not a has been, could be a not yet, but doubt it.
I think he produces a lot of things, which makes him a little bit more of a Man About Town.
He looks like a 10 year old in everything he does. I buy into him completely as a cold-blooded killer.
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This movie looks like 100% fun. Just remember Rule #28-It's always okay to kill Nazis.
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This movie looks like 100% fun. Just remember Rule #28-It's always okay to kill Nazis.
Speaking of, did that movie about the zombie Nazis come out yet?
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This movie looks like 100% fun. Just remember Rule #28-It's always okay to kill Nazis.
Speaking of, did that movie about the zombie Nazis come out yet?
Yes. A couple of months ago.
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I can't believe it wasn't welcomed with fanfare and a ton of press!
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I haven't seen it (Dead Snow) but from what I hear it's pretty bad (bad-bad, not funny-bad) and, oddly disappointing on the nazi zombie front.
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I haven't seen it (Dead Snow) but from what I hear it's pretty bad (bad-bad, not funny-bad) and, oddly disappointing on the nazi zombie front.
My roommate had it on when I came home once. I watched for a little bit, but lost interest pretty quickly. It's one of those things that exists better as a concept.
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So it's no Shock Waves, eh?
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It's easy to be let down by a Zombie Nazi movie. I think I'd like to see a Zombie Hippie movie instead.
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It's easy to be let down by a Zombie Nazi movie. I think I'd like to see a Zombie Hippie movie instead.
So the hippies would be mindless and slow moving? Interesting take on things.
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It's easy to be let down by a Zombie Nazi movie. I think I'd like to see a Zombie Hippie movie instead.
So the hippies would be mindless and slow moving? Interesting take on things.
Yeaaaaahhhh, maaannnnnnn.
HIPPIE 1: Hey, man. Is that Freedom Rock?
HIPPIE 2: (Hard to hear) Yeah, man!
HIPPIE 1: Well turn it up, man!
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Anyone else see this? I expected to hate it, but wound up liking it a great deal.
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Anyone else see this? I expected to hate it, but wound up liking it a great deal.
I enjoyed it. I'm interested in how well it will hold up on a second viewing. During the first time around, I was a little disoriented by how slow-paced it was in several parts. It felt like he repeated the awesome, slow-moving opening scene a few times throughout the movie.
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Anyone else see this? I expected to hate it, but wound up liking it a great deal.
I enjoyed it. I'm interested in how well it will hold up on a second viewing. During the first time around, I was a little disoriented by how slow-paced it was in several parts. It felt like he repeated the awesome, slow-moving opening scene a few times throughout the movie.
Weird, I don't think I'll like it either; I wonder if that means I will once I see it like you guys did.
Saw the trailer though, and Brad Pitt's accent is appalling. It's like 5 minutes before shooting, someone dared him to do the whole part in a Foghorn Leghorn voice. I'm not sure I can deal with that thru the whole movie.
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Anyone else see this? I expected to hate it, but wound up liking it a great deal.
I enjoyed it. I'm interested in how well it will hold up on a second viewing. During the first time around, I was a little disoriented by how slow-paced it was in several parts. It felt like he repeated the awesome, slow-moving opening scene a few times throughout the movie.
Weird, I don't think I'll like it either; I wonder if that means I will once I see it like you guys did.
Saw the trailer though, and Brad Pitt's accent is appalling. It's like 5 minutes before shooting, someone dared him to do the whole part in a Foghorn Leghorn voice. I'm not sure I can deal with that thru the whole movie.
He's only in the movie for about 45 minutes. (The movie is 2 1/2 hours long.) I also found the accent pretty terrible when I first watched the trailer, but within the context of the movie, it didn't bother me one bit. It's meant to be comedic, and I thought it paid off pretty well, especially when (*KINDA-SPOILER ALERT!*) Pitt's character attempts to pass as Italian.
That said, the exploits of the "Inglourious Basterds" made up less than a third of the film, and were (for me, anyway) the least interesting aspect of the story. The second chapter of the film (the only one of the film's five chapters that focuses exclusively on the Basterds and their brutality) is easily the most "Tarantino-esque" part of the movie, and is kind of a wash. The rest was, I thought, pretty great.
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My wife chose it as one of the 2 or 3 movies that we'll get to see in the theatre this year. I'm skeptical.
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My wife chose it as one of the 2 or 3 movies that we'll get to see in the theatre this year. I'm skeptical.
Did the two of you have a child recently? Congratulations!
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The second chapter of the film (the only one of the film's five chapters that focuses exclusively on the Basterds and their brutality) is easily the most "Tarantino-esque" part of the movie, and is kind of a wash.
And so far it seems like this is the part I've heard ALL about, to the point that I thought that this was basically the movie.
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I thought it was great. Slow, engrossing, extra creepy through a good 50% of it, and over-the-top. Why anyone would take Tarantino "seriously", other than just appreciating him as a guy who clearly loves film, is beyond me. He has always had little tricks in his works, and this one is FULL of them.
I enjoyed it quite a lot.
Next up: Big Fan, Moon, and District 9.
Most anticipated movie of MY ENTIRE LIFE: The Road.
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
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This was fine. His dialogue didn't make me cringe, for a change. Who knows what the future holds, but this was a respectable unrespectable effort.
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I saw 'Basterds' today, and thought it was a Tarantino movie if Tarantino made a movie specifically for my taste. I'm not one for crime dramas or gangster films, but World War II movies are right up my alley... thoroughly acknowledging that the subject's been beaten into the ground for over sixty years.
It wasn't a great film, but I saw the Tarantino treatment of WWII as kind of an anti-Saving Private Ryan/Band of Brothers that cleansed the palate of the overly mournful and solemn Second World War epics we've seen over the last ten years or so. It was kind of cathartic and thoroughly suspensful... even though I'd like to see the actual 'Basterds' characters fleshed out a little more.
Another aspect that I appreciated was the contrast between profound, sickening brutality and the shallow glamor of Nazi imagery through fashion, cinema and celebrity throughout the film.
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I also wonder how it'll hold up on the second viewing (and there will be one). A lot of the appeal for me came in predicting how the plot would unfold and being proven wrong on almost everything. At least a few of those scenes will stay with me (the opening scene, the bar and anything with the main Nazi character), but I don't know how it'll fare as a whole.
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I don't think he gets an across-the-board pass, though ... I think he has as many detractors as he does fans.
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I didn't like it. It's some strange twisted revenge fantasy mixed up in what B_Buster pointed out, the whole recycling of junk, Mexican stand off is one example. Please move on, evolve...adapt! Some time ago Tom was making the point about how his peers have moved on in terms of style and subject matter making far superior films, Coen brothers No Country for Old Men for a face melting example. On a separate technical note, I watched a hi res (2k/4k?!) digital projection here in the backwoods that is Saskatoon and it looked amazing, the pictures were outstanding.
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I don't think he gets an across-the-board pass, though ... I think he has as many detractors as he does fans.
Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I don't think he gets an across-the-board pass, though ... I think he has as many detractors as he does fans.
Or, as Glenn Kenny puts it in his rave review (http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2009/08/everything-is-cinema-inglourious-basterds.html):
I can't think of a singly contemporary filmmaker who brings out the scolding third-grade teacher in so many cinephiles more than Quentin Tarantino does. Get thee to just about any film-enthusiast message board, or any comments thread to a post about Tarantino on any film blog, and you'll see any number of what we might call "Work Habits And Character" complaints, which all boil down to something like "While Quentin is a bright, clever, and sometimes resourceful student, he needs to focus more on the 'real world' and less on his own personal obsessions if he ever hopes to amount to something." Put another way: Quentin Tarantino could be a genuinely great filmmaker if only he could get over his puerile, annoying insistence on making Quentin Tarantino movies.
I think the guy is basically a bonehead and will continue to say so but he is some kind of filmmaking savant. The quote about Red Dawn from that Atlantic profile sounds like the musings of a psychopath but damn if this doesn't achieve some of the catharsis (for some) that sleepyjack mentioned
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I didn't like it. It's some strange twisted revenge fantasy mixed up in what B_Buster pointed out, the whole recycling of junk, Mexican stand off is one example. Please move on, evolve...adapt! Some time ago Tom was making the point about how his peers have moved on in terms of style and subject matter making far superior films, Coen brothers No Country for Old Men for a face melting example. On a separate technical note, I watched a hi res (2k/4k?!) digital projection here in the backwoods that is Saskatoon and it looked amazing, the pictures were outstanding.
The Coens certainly knew a good thing when they saw it with that novel. The film is practically right there on the page and they did an outstanding job transplanting McCarthy's vision while throwing in idiosyncratic touches of their own. I wouldn't generalize their artistic temperment as being light years beyond Tarantino's. If anything, their films are far more snide, insular and increasingly self-indulgent, albeit sometimes in tremendously entertaining ways.
Or, to put it another way, No Country is kinda like their Jackie Brown!
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Here's an even better question: why does Tarantino get a pass for recycling junk? If anyone else did it, surely no one would pay attention to him. But because this idiot "loves film" so much, everyone loves him.
I didn't like it. It's some strange twisted revenge fantasy mixed up in what B_Buster pointed out, the whole recycling of junk, Mexican stand off is one example. Please move on, evolve...adapt! Some time ago Tom was making the point about how his peers have moved on in terms of style and subject matter making far superior films, Coen brothers No Country for Old Men for a face melting example. On a separate technical note, I watched a hi res (2k/4k?!) digital projection here in the backwoods that is Saskatoon and it looked amazing, the pictures were outstanding.
The Coens certainly knew a good thing when they saw it with that novel. The film is practically right there on the page and they did an outstanding job transplanting McCarthy's vision while throwing in idiosyncratic touches of their own. I wouldn't generalize their artistic temperment as being light years beyond Tarantino's. If anything, their films are far more snide, insular and increasingly self-indulgent, albeit sometimes in tremendously entertaining ways.
Or, to put it another way, No Country is kinda like their Jackie Brown!
I would generalize that their artistic temperament is light years ahead. I should qualify that it's a matter of my personal taste. All of the CB's films v QT's films...for me there is no comparison. I find the Coen brothers work far more entertaining and might agree with you about the snide, insular and increasingly self-indulgent side of their work. QT could be accused of the same. The CBs have put out some clunkers to be sure.
I would also like to make it clear that I have paraphrased Kid Jersey, poorly. I do apologize if I did misrepresent his words and beg for forgiveness. I still agree with the quote even if i did screw it up.
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Has anyone heard the QT interview on this week's installment of The Treatment? Spoiler alert: QT comes across like a real dunce.
At one point, in the course of praising the actors in this movie, he says something like "If you want to act in one of my movies, you can't be dumb. Dumb people can't understand my poetry."
I may be mis-quoting, but I know the phrase "my poetry" was in there. I almost choked on my butter croissant when I heard that.
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Has anyone heard the QT interview on this week's installment of The Treatment? Spoiler alert: QT comes across like a real dunce.
At one point, in the course of praising the actors in this movie, he says something like "If you want to act in one of my movies, you can't be dumb. Dumb people can't understand my poetry."
I may be mis-quoting, but I know the phrase "my poetry" was in there. I almost choked on my butter croissant when I heard that.
On Charlie Rose, he said that he thought this might be his masterpiece, but he would have to wait 3 years to see where it fit in his "oeuvre".
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On Charlie Rose, he said that he thought this might be his masterpiece
God, I think he says this every movie.
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Has anyone heard the QT interview on this week's installment of The Treatment? Spoiler alert: QT comes across like a real dunce.
He has never, EVER had a good interview. Ever. He might be the single worst "guest" ever, in the history of entertainment. Did you see him on Letterman last week? It's always hard to even just watch him sit there, all coked out of his mind.
I saw this last week and I'm still thinking about it. That is pretty rare for me. I will see it again, and this time I will focus on peripherals a lot more.
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Or, as Glenn Kenny puts it in his rave review (http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2009/08/everything-is-cinema-inglourious-basterds.html):
I can't think of a singly contemporary filmmaker who brings out the scolding third-grade teacher in so many cinephiles more than Quentin Tarantino does.
I think the guy is basically a bonehead and will continue to say so but he is some kind of filmmaking savant.
Yeah, I think this pretty much nails it - his rabbity Dexedrine personality gets in the way every time. It's what makes him run his mouth incessantly and ruin interviews, it's what makes him decide to do parts in his own movies (ie his car-crash of a performance in Pulp Fiction), and I'm going to guess he just wears down anyone involved in his productions.
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Or, as Glenn Kenny puts it in his rave review (http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2009/08/everything-is-cinema-inglourious-basterds.html):
I can't think of a singly contemporary filmmaker who brings out the scolding third-grade teacher in so many cinephiles more than Quentin Tarantino does.
I think the guy is basically a bonehead and will continue to say so but he is some kind of filmmaking savant.
Yeah, I think this pretty much nails it - his rabbity Dexedrine personality gets in the way every time. It's what makes him run his mouth incessantly and ruin interviews, it's what makes him decide to do parts in his own movies (ie his car-crash of a performance in Pulp Fiction), and I'm going to guess he just wears down anyone involved in his productions.
Was he all that bad in Pulp Fiction? I thought it was fine.
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Was he all that bad in Pulp Fiction? I thought it was fine.
Really?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7f7vVCqvI[/youtube]
Not only does he drop the n-bomb about eleventy times (TO SAMUEL L. JACKSON'S FACE), but his overall delivery in this scene is just ridiculous. And who's there to reign him in and say "maybe not a good idea"?
Answer: nobody.
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Was he all that bad in Pulp Fiction? I thought it was fine.
Really?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7f7vVCqvI[/youtube]
Not only does he drop the n-bomb about eleventy times (TO SAMUEL L. JACKSON'S FACE), but his overall delivery in this scene is just ridiculous. And who's there to reign him in and say "maybe not a good idea"?
Answer: nobody.
I had a feeling this was your criticism. Who gives a shit. It's a character in a movie. Samuel L. Jackson didn't seem offended, I don't know why you need to be on his behalf.
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That's another good thing about INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS: N-bombs weren't flying left and right. People in this movie use "Negro". Very classy!
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Has anyone heard the QT interview on this week's installment of The Treatment? Spoiler alert: QT comes across like a real dunce.
At one point, in the course of praising the actors in this movie, he says something like "If you want to act in one of my movies, you can't be dumb. Dumb people can't understand my poetry."
I may be mis-quoting, but I know the phrase "my poetry" was in there. I almost choked on my butter croissant when I heard that.
I also nearly did a spit-take when I heard him start throwing around the P-word. I'm just surprised that Elvis Mitchell didn't beat him to it. The two of those windbags, talk about a two-way tie for last.
Did anybody else find BJ Novak's presence really out of place? I know QT likes the stunt casting and all, but really, that shrimp is supposed to be one of the 8 toughest Jews they could find for this superteam? And that scene where he gets a couple of lines about his nickname as the "Little Man" plays almost right out of "The Office". I know QT was just looking for a little comic relief there, but aren't all of those guys supposed to be insane, Nazi-scalping bloodthirsty psychopaths? Dude seemed a fair bit coser to Dimitri Martin than Lee Marvin.
Was he all that bad in Pulp Fiction? I thought it was fine.
For what it's worth, his part in Pulp Fiction is actually the only Tarantino film performance that doesn't make me want to smash the TV/movie screen, for whatever reason. His scenes in Planet Terror and Death Proof were both so irritating they almost brought me to tears.
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Did anybody else find BJ Novak's presence really out of place? I know QT likes the stunt casting and all, but really, that shrimp is supposed to be one of the 8 toughest Jews they could find for this superteam? And that scene where he gets a couple of lines about his nickname as the "Little Man" plays almost right out of "The Office". I know QT was just looking for a little comic relief there, but aren't all of those guys supposed to be insane, Nazi-scalping bloodthirsty psychopaths? Dude seemed a fair bit coser to Dimitri Martin than Lee Marvin.
He was indeed out of place... like the world's first slacker Nazi-scalping psycopath. So was Mike Myers, but not distractingly so, and at least Tarantino didn't cast him as Churchill. Also weird to think that Simon Pegg was supposed to play the British spy.
Didn't at least two of the Basterds (including Samm Levine) just disappear after "chapter two?" Did I miss something?
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Didn't at least two of the Basterds (including Samm Levine) just disappear after "chapter two?" Did I miss something?
Yeah, it seems like about 50% of the Basterds were there just to fill out the framing in some of the group shots. I might be misremembering, but it feels like at least one or two did not have any lines at all.
So was Mike Myers, but not distractingly so, and at least Tarantino didn't cast him as Churchill.
I forgot about that scene. I love how Churchill is in that scene for no reason whatsoever. Mike Meyers and the spy spend 5 minutes talking about his film critic bona fides, and then Churchill is like "OK, brief him." Did he really have to see to that part of the mission personally?
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I also nearly did a spit-take when I heard him start throwing around the P-word. I'm just surprised that Elvis Mitchell didn't beat him to it. The two of those windbags, talk about a two-way tie for last.
Elvis Mitchell is a national treasure. He is the best out there as far as interviews go - he does the research, he comes at things from interesting angles most of the time, he doesn't kiss too much ass (though he does have a tendency to over-laugh). I think comparing him to a genuine windbag like Tarantino is crap, and I'm calling you on it.
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I also nearly did a spit-take when I heard him start throwing around the P-word. I'm just surprised that Elvis Mitchell didn't beat him to it. The two of those windbags, talk about a two-way tie for last.
Elvis Mitchell is a national treasure. He is the best out there as far as interviews go - he does the research, he comes at things from interesting angles most of the time, he doesn't kiss too much ass (though he does have a tendency to over-laugh). I think comparing him to a genuine windbag like Tarantino is crap, and I'm calling you on it.
I second Jouster's response. Elvis Mitchell is as good as it gets.
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I also nearly did a spit-take when I heard him start throwing around the P-word. I'm just surprised that Elvis Mitchell didn't beat him to it. The two of those windbags, talk about a two-way tie for last.
Elvis Mitchell is a national treasure. He is the best out there as far as interviews go - he does the research, he comes at things from interesting angles most of the time, he doesn't kiss too much ass (though he does have a tendency to over-laugh). I think comparing him to a genuine windbag like Tarantino is crap, and I'm calling you on it.
I second Jouster's response. Elvis Mitchell is as good as it gets.
I third. I'm amused every time he mumbles his way through the station's call letters.
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The guy knows his stuff, for sure, and I listen to The Treatment with regularity. When he gets Soderbergh it's always great.
But still, there's no denying he is a windy, windy gentleman. And he does come off like more than a bit of a brown-nosing fanboy in that QT interview. He wasn't the first person in that interview to refer to Tarantino's writing as "poetry", but he does go on and on about how his dialogue is "like jazz", which raised my hackles. But hey, that's why God made horse races, guys.
One thing that I like to do when listening to The Treatment is imagine that the voice saying "shake it, don't break it!" in the bed music is actually Elvis Mitchell just barely on-mic. I don't know why, but it makes me laugh every time. You should try it.
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I had a feeling this was your criticism. Who gives a shit. It's a character in a movie. Samuel L. Jackson didn't seem offended, I don't know why you need to be on his behalf.
Oh, Charlie, you are such a fathead.
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I didn't hate the movie. It was entertaining but every time Eli Roth opened his mouth I wanted to kick him to death. What was that accent supposed to be?
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I didn't hate the movie. It was entertaining but every time Eli Roth opened his mouth I wanted to kick him to death. What was that accent supposed to be?
I believe it was supposed to be a Boston accent, since he referenced Ted Williams as he beat the hell out of the Nazi Sergeant with a baseball bat. Though it was worse than Kevin Costner's Boston accent in Thirteen Days, Joe Pesci's in With Honors and Robin Williams' in Good Will Hunting combined.
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just heard Quentin Tarintino on Charlie Rose say that he wants to make a movie on the life of abolitionist John Brown.
I pasted this from another post I made in a less appropriate place. But is he running out of old foreign films to make homages to and turning to history as inspiration for his splatterfests?
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I didn't hate the movie. It was entertaining but every time Eli Roth opened his mouth I wanted to kick him to death. What was that accent supposed to be?
I believe it was supposed to be a Boston accent, since he referenced Ted Williams as he beat the hell out of the Nazi Sergeant with a baseball bat. Though it was worse than Kevin Costner's Boston accent in Thirteen Days, Joe Pesci's in With Honors and Robin Williams' in Good Will Hunting combined.
Yeah, I'm not basebally enough to know who Ted Williams is but I now recall him making a referance to Fenway which I'm just basebally enough to know. Awful, just awful. Eli Roth must be a blast to do coke with for him to keep getting handouts from Tarantino.
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Im eagerly awaiting Mikes thoughts on the movie. Do you think Tom saw it and will discuss it on the show? I really enjoy his movie reviews, he hasnt done one in a while.
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I didn't hate the movie. It was entertaining but every time Eli Roth opened his mouth I wanted to kick him to death. What was that accent supposed to be?
I believe it was supposed to be a Boston accent, since he referenced Ted Williams as he beat the hell out of the Nazi Sergeant with a baseball bat. Though it was worse than Kevin Costner's Boston accent in Thirteen Days, Joe Pesci's in With Honors and Robin Williams' in Good Will Hunting combined.
Yeah, I'm not basebally enough to know who Ted Williams is but I now recall him making a referance to Fenway which I'm just basebally enough to know. Awful, just awful. Eli Roth must be a blast to do coke with for him to keep getting handouts from Tarantino.
It could be worse: that role was supposed to go to Adam Sandler. It makes me think the whole thing was just a labored Tollbooth Willie reference ("I'll f---ing Carlton Fisk your f---ing head with a Louisville f---ing Slugger!")
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Did anybody else find BJ Novak's presence really out of place? I know QT likes the stunt casting and all, but really, that shrimp is supposed to be one of the 8 toughest Jews they could find for this superteam? And that scene where he gets a couple of lines about his nickname as the "Little Man" plays almost right out of "The Office". I know QT was just looking for a little comic relief there, but aren't all of those guys supposed to be insane, Nazi-scalping bloodthirsty psychopaths? Dude seemed a fair bit coser to Dimitri Martin than Lee Marvin.
He was indeed out of place... like the world's first slacker Nazi-scalping psycopath. So was Mike Myers, but not distractingly so, and at least Tarantino didn't cast him as Churchill. Also weird to think that Simon Pegg was supposed to play the British spy.
Didn't at least two of the Basterds (including Samm Levine) just disappear after "chapter two?" Did I miss something?
I remember seeing him in the previews running down a hall firing a machine gun. Did i miss this or was this one of the cut scenes?
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I just heard Quentin Tarintino on Charlie Rose say that he wants to make a movie on the life of abolitionist John Brown.
Man, the life of John Brown would make such a sweet movie. I really hope someone else gets that job.
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I didn't hate the movie. It was entertaining but every time Eli Roth opened his mouth I wanted to kick him to death. What was that accent supposed to be?
I believe it was supposed to be a Boston accent, since he referenced Ted Williams as he beat the hell out of the Nazi Sergeant with a baseball bat. Though it was worse than Kevin Costner's Boston accent in Thirteen Days, Joe Pesci's in With Honors and Robin Williams' in Good Will Hunting combined.
Yeah, I'm not basebally enough to know who Ted Williams is but I now recall him making a referance to Fenway which I'm just basebally enough to know. Awful, just awful. Eli Roth must be a blast to do coke with for him to keep getting handouts from Tarantino.
At least we were spared the Eli Roth flashback scene that was cut from the Cannes version of the show...
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It's funny to me that we're all bitching about a film that we all went to see. Tarantino sucks.
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I just heard Quentin Tarintino on Charlie Rose say that he wants to make a movie on the life of abolitionist John Brown.
Man, the life of John Brown would make such a sweet movie. I really hope someone else gets that job.
This was talked about on the Best Show around the time of Grindhouse. I guess you haven't heard who he wants to play Brown, huh?
It's funny to me that we're all bitching about a film that we all went to see. Tarantino sucks.
A truly bad film is usually one you can shrug off without a second thought. The amount of discussion surrounding this one bodes well for its shelf life.
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I'm not a huge Tarantino fan, but I did enjoy this one. I'm also not a huge Brad Pitt fan, Still, enjoyed it. Even though that dude from the Office was in it, ok, wait... I was drinking.
I liked it better than D9, let's just leave it at that.
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I was listening in '07 but don't remeber this. I'm skimming for it, it isn't Harvey Keitel is it?
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I just heard Quentin Tarintino on Charlie Rose say that he wants to make a movie on the life of abolitionist John Brown.
Man, the life of John Brown would make such a sweet movie. I really hope someone else gets that job.
This was talked about on the Best Show around the time of Grindhouse. I guess you haven't heard who he wants to play Brown, huh?
Fred Williamson?
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I was expecting to hate it, but I actually liked it quite a bit. Eli Roth is just the worst, though. The Worst.
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I just heard Quentin Tarintino on Charlie Rose say that he wants to make a movie on the life of abolitionist John Brown.
Man, the life of John Brown would make such a sweet movie. I really hope someone else gets that job.
This was talked about on the Best Show around the time of Grindhouse. I guess you haven't heard who he wants to play Brown, huh?
Fred Williamson?
I should've just said it: He wants to play Brown himself. Or he did, according to that episode. Who knows who he'll actually cast (Nicolas Cage? Dana Carvey? Uwe Boll?).
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I was expecting to hate it, but I actually liked it quite a bit. Eli Roth is just the worst, though. The Worst.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/bio
This is worthy of Tom reading on the air.
funny, neither Scavenger Hunt nor The Box appear as in development or on his resume on his page.
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I'm also not a huge Brad Pitt fan, Still, enjoyed it.
I'm with the person on the AV Club podcast who said he likes Brad Pitt the character actor but not Brad Pitt the movie star. I was never that into him, but he seriously impressed me in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and Burn After Reading.
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It's funny to me that we're all bitching about a film that we all went to see. Tarantino sucks.
Yeah, really. I actually didn't hate it, for as much as I'm hating on it. I like his stuff from Reservoir Dogs up to Jackie Brown, and loathe his stuff from that point on. This was just kinda in the middle for me - didn't loathe it, didn't love it. And to be honest, all my complaints about it are things that I know have come standard with Tarantino movies since 1995 (interminable go-nowhere dialogue scenes, stunt casting, ass-backwards pacing, etc), so I shouldn't even really complain that much.
I'm with the person on the AV Club podcast who said he likes Brad Pitt the character actor but not Brad Pitt the movie star.
Me too. Him and Waltz were the best things about the movie. The reviewer for my local arts rag had a line where he was like "I never thought I'd complain that I could have used more Brad Pitt, but..."
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I actually liked Jackie Brown but I'm a big Elmore Leonard fan. With the exception of Eli Roth and the fact that there really was no reason for the film to be segmented or narrated except that he wanted to remind the audience that they're watching a Tarantino flick I was entertained.
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With the exception of Eli Roth and the fact that there really was no reason for the film to be segmented or narrated except that he wanted to remind the audience that they're watching a Tarantino flick I was entertained.
I've never seen an Eli Roth movie, although I see over on the IMDB that he is playing the wet t-shirt contest emcee in Pirahna 3-D.
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I'm with the person on the AV Club podcast who said he likes Brad Pitt the character actor but not Brad Pitt the movie star.
i agree with this, however, brad pitt the movie star is dispicable enough in my eyes to not indulge in the charms of brad pitt the character actor.
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The life of James Brown would make a better movie.
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Im eagerly awaiting Mikes thoughts on the movie. Do you think Tom saw it and will discuss it on the show? I really enjoy his movie reviews, he hasnt done one in a while.
I thought it was just another dumb Tarantino movie. Here's how I break it down:
Chapter 1: dumb homage to Once Upon a Time in the West, complete with Ennio Morricone music. Since that movie included a family massacre, Tarantino has to rely on it to stage his family massacre. His imagination can go no further than what he's already seen in other movies.
Chapter 2: It occurred to me during the head bashing scene that this is the perfect analogy for watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. The Brad Pitt character even acknowledges this when he comments, pre-head bashing, that it was the next best thing to going to the movies. And sure enough, as the Eli Roth character starts swinging his bat, the audience began snickering and giggling at the jokey violence, Tarantino's trademark, just like the characters up on screen.
Chapter 3: Who knew that what World War II movies were truly lacking was a critique of German cinema. Why? Because Tarantino knows nothing beyond fucking movies (and he's probably too lazy to do any research to come up with anything historically accurate or interesting). This is why the bulk of the movie takes place in a movie theater and we get little side lectures on the flammability of nitrate film. It also looks like Tarantino has a new goofy obsession: strudel with cream. Get ready to see it in future films with his other goofy obsession: women's feet. Also, must he include that soundtrack music from White Lightning in every one of his movies?! Is it in his contract? It's really getting tired.
Chapter 4: A homage to the big shootout in Pulp Fiction (he's even quoting himself now!) except with Nazis instead of dope dealers. Also, another Mexican standoff which may also be in his contract.
Chapter 5: The grand finale that gets the biggest laugh with Pitt's bad accent (a I Love Lucy homage?). Of course, the whole fantasy of killing Hitler is just absurd to begin with, but Tarantino gives it his all. Was that a Dario Argento homage with the ghostly image in the smoke at the end? Who gives a shit?
As I was leaving the theater, I overheard a discussion among a group of elderly women (the old ladies in Bayonne always come out in droves for the most violent movies--it's a little scary). Anyway, one woman asked the group what they thought of it. Of course, they were all reluctant to admit they might as well have just thrown their $7 in the gutter. One woman said that none of it was true (i.e. the premise was dumb) and another woman said that it was funny. And that's it in a nutshell. Obviously I'm in the minority of people who don't find Tarantino cute and funny. And who am I to argue with a bunch of old ladies who want to have a few laughs watching a Nazi get his head bashed in?
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Chapter 1: dumb homage to Once Upon a Time in the West, complete with Ennio Morricone music.
Maybe I'll just watch that again instead.
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Chapter 1: dumb homage to Once Upon a Time in the West, complete with Ennio Morricone music.
Maybe I'll just watch that again instead.
Funny you mention that. I actually watched Kelly's Heroes last night for the first time since I was a kid, and it was everything Ingourious Basterds tried to do but failed at. I couldn't believe how much fun it was, and it was the perfect flipside to IG.
You want WWII action? It's got WWII action. You want homages to spaghetti westerns? You got 'em. You want stunt casting that's actually fun instead of being dumb and distracting? Try Don Fucking Rickles as a badass Army dude. You want fun anachronisms? Try Donald Sutherland as a blissed out hippie dude in 1944. Plus Carrol O'Connor as crazy Patton-type general. Fun, so much fun.
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I know for a fact that if my wife hadn't wanted to see it so bad I would have waited and rented it. Mike if you hate Tarantino and decided before hand that you weren't going to like the movie, why did you give him your money? I'm not asking in a smart ass way, just curious.
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Funny you mention that. I actually watched Kelly's Heroes last night for the first time since I was a kid,
I heart Kelly's Heroes. Also Where Eagles Dare.
I like WWII movies made in the '60s. They're fun. None of the desperate "we all have to do our part to beat Hitler & Tojo" stuff in the movies made during the war (Buy your bonds in this theater).
WWii movies from the '60s are always big, arrogant 2+ hour widescreen beatdowns with at least 6 American and British actors, and then some European actress you've never heard of. Dirty Dozen, Great Escape, etc etc.
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Chapter 1: dumb homage to Once Upon a Time in the West, complete with Ennio Morricone music.
Maybe I'll just watch that again instead.
Funny you mention that. I actually watched Kelly's Heroes last night for the first time since I was a kid, and it was everything Ingourious Basterds tried to do but failed at. I couldn't believe how much fun it was, and it was the perfect flipside to IG.
You want WWII action? It's got WWII action. You want homages to spaghetti westerns? You got 'em. You want stunt casting that's actually fun instead of being dumb and distracting? Try Don Fucking Rickles as a badass Army dude. You want fun anachronisms? Try Donald Sutherland as a blissed out hippie dude in 1944. Plus Carrol O'Connor as crazy Patton-type general. Fun, so much fun.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. This and the Dirty Dozen make a great double bill. Yes, it's a double bill that last 6 hours, but it's a 6 hours free of negative waves.
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Why is Tarantino a famous director? He seems like a real decent guy in interviews, so maybe it's a likeability thing, but how can you become so renowned if your whole career is homage? No original thought. No subtext. This one felt particularly easy.
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I like how the Nazi's head is replaced with a watermelon right before it explodes.
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I know for a fact that if my wife hadn't wanted to see it so bad I would have waited and rented it. Mike if you hate Tarantino and decided before hand that you weren't going to like the movie, why did you give him your money? I'm not asking in a smart ass way, just curious.
It's a sort of sickness, I know, but I've always thought Tarantino was one of the most overrated writers/directors around. And the fact that he's the King of the Fanboys and still garners rave reviews from some critics makes it all the more galling. When I read about the feud between Roger Ebert and Armond White over the movie, I thought I'd check it out to see what the fuss was all about.
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I know for a fact that if my wife hadn't wanted to see it so bad I would have waited and rented it. Mike if you hate Tarantino and decided before hand that you weren't going to like the movie, why did you give him your money? I'm not asking in a smart ass way, just curious.
It's a sort of sickness, I know, but I've always thought Tarantino was one of the most overrated writers/directors around. And the fact that he's the King of the Fanboys and still garners rave reviews from some critics makes it all the more galling. When I read about the feud between Roger Ebert and Armond White over the movie, I thought I'd check it out to see what the fuss was all about.
Also, you have to have the right ammo when you tear something up on the bulletin boardz.
I read both Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead just so I could properly spank objectivists online. Even the John Galt radio speech and the Howard Roark trial speech.
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Why is Tarantino a famous director? He seems like a real decent guy in interviews, so maybe it's a likeability thing, but how can you become so renowned if your whole career is homage? No original thought. No subtext. This one felt particularly easy.
I haven't seen this yet and I won't go as far as Mike, considering I was a dumb teenager with an early 60's fetish who ate up Pulp Fiction... but likeable? That guy has always struck me as something of a coke fiend who may or may not be dangerously unstable. I could be wrong, maybe he's just neurotic. Doubtful, but possible.
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Im eagerly awaiting Mikes thoughts on the movie. Do you think Tom saw it and will discuss it on the show? I really enjoy his movie reviews, he hasnt done one in a while.
Chapter 5: The grand finale that gets the biggest laugh with Pitt's bad accent (a I Love Lucy homage?). Of course, the whole fantasy of killing Hitler is just absurd to begin with, but Tarantino gives it his all. Was that a Dario Argento homage with the ghostly image in the smoke at the end? Who gives a shit?
Ive never seen any of Argentos films, which one was that an homage to?
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Ive never seen any of Argentos films, which one was that an homage to?
I don't know. I was just grasping. It looked vaguely familar. Maybe it was The Wizard of Oz. Anyway, you're not missing anything with the Argento oeuvre.
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Ive never seen any of Argentos films, which one was that an homage to?
I don't know. I was just grasping. It looked vaguely familar. Maybe it was The Wizard of Oz. Anyway, you're not missing anything with the Argento oeuvre.
Raiders of the Lost Ark jumped immediately to mind.
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I know for a fact that if my wife hadn't wanted to see it so bad I would have waited and rented it. Mike if you hate Tarantino and decided before hand that you weren't going to like the movie, why did you give him your money? I'm not asking in a smart ass way, just curious.
It's a sort of sickness, I know, but I've always thought Tarantino was one of the most overrated writers/directors around. And the fact that he's the King of the Fanboys and still garners rave reviews from some critics makes it all the more galling. When I read about the feud between Roger Ebert and Armond White over the movie, I thought I'd check it out to see what the fuss was all about.
I'm in a totally weird phase right now where I've always been a sarcastic cynic and generally a hater but I'm trying to be objective and not hate on things just to hate. I used to rip on Tarantino (and most other hipster favs) just because all of my friends liked him and I think on a subconscious level I was just trying to be different. Now as a family man I'm trying to just look at something for what it is not who it came from or why it exists, I'm trying not to judge things by what I think about someone that was involved but by the things themselves... it's hard. It was difficult to watch IG without thinking about what a freak QT was on an episode of Iconoclasts that I saw or how he seemed like a parody of himself in an old Elvis Mitchell interview I saw but I did for the most part and as I said before I was entertained, it wasn't the best movie ever by far, it wasn't even the best Tarantino film but it was omage-ish, violent, and sometimes funny which what I want with a QT film. Sure I've got complaints but I don't think I've ever seen a film that I didn't have complaints about so it was fine. Mike, at least you're honest with yourself about your "sickness", my former self would love to talk movies with you.
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz said "Rosebud" befor he quitely slipped away but I think that one was intended to be funny.
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz shot up Hitler's dead face but I think that one was intended to be funny.
There are some that are so comical or ridiculous that you laugh but there are always ones where I don't see what people are laughing at.
Oh, and SPOILER ALERT!
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz shot up Hitler's dead face but I think that one was intended to be funny.
There are some that are so comical or ridiculous that you laugh but there are always ones where I don't see what people are laughing at.
Oh, and SPOILER ALERT!
no shit...thanks, Reeleyes. ::)
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz at jelly donuts until he exploded but I think that one was intended to be funny.
There are some that are so comical or ridiculous that you laugh but there are always ones where I don't see what people are laughing at.
Oh, and SPOILER ALERT!
no shit...thanks, Reeleyes. ::)
I thought this was a thread for people who've seen it. If you've gotten this far in the thread then I think the movie has been thouroughly spoiled. Mike gave the chapter breakdown for christ's sake. I'll delete my comments for the people who haven't seen it.
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz at jelly donuts until he exploded but I think that one was intended to be funny.
There are some that are so comical or ridiculous that you laugh but there are always ones where I don't see what people are laughing at.
Oh, and SPOILER ALERT!
no shit...thanks, Reeleyes. ::)
I thought this was a thread for people who've seen it. If you've gotten this far in the thread then I think the movie has been thouroughly spoiled. Mike gave the chapter breakdown for christ's sake. I'll delete my comments for the people who haven't seen it.
you're fine man, it's an 11 page thread on the movie. people not expecting spoilers are nuts.
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I did laugh when Donnie Donewitz at jelly donuts until he exploded but I think that one was intended to be funny.
There are some that are so comical or ridiculous that you laugh but there are always ones where I don't see what people are laughing at.
Oh, and SPOILER ALERT!
no shit...thanks, Reeleyes. ::)
I thought this was a thread for people who've seen it. If you've gotten this far in the thread then I think the movie has been thouroughly spoiled. Mike gave the chapter breakdown for christ's sake. I'll delete my comments for the people who haven't seen it.
i was merely kidding, Reeleyes. i could care less about this movie. no harm, no foul. ;)
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i liked it.
i love watching quentin tarantino's movies (most of the time) and this one was super entertaining.
i will NEVER understand why people think they are supposed to laugh every single time someone gets killed in his movies.
I'm with hugman. The only Tarantino movie I didn't like was "Death Proof" and I don't even really count that as a real movie. Also, I like Tom Waits. I make a bad FOT.
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I've been known to like a few Waits songs. If I made a list of things that I like that aren't popular in the FOT I think Tom would personally come to my house and punch me in the face but I like the show so I won't make that list.
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I've been known to like a few Waits songs. If I made a list of things that I like that aren't popular in the FOT I think Tom would personally come to my house and punch me in the face but I like the show so I won't make that list.
Reel you are being a
Chicken-shit.
Make your's then I'll make mine.
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I've been known to like a few Waits songs. If I made a list of things that I like that aren't popular in the FOT I think Tom would personally come to my house and punch me in the face but I like the show so I won't make that list.
There's a thread in show discussion about disagreeing with Tom.
Like the greatness of baseball.
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I've been known to like a few Waits songs. If I made a list of things that I like that aren't popular in the FOT I think Tom would personally come to my house and punch me in the face but I like the show so I won't make that list.
There's a thread in show discussion about disagreeing with Tom.
Like the greatness of baseball.
Where? J.
Sounds like a gauntlet kicking up dust.
I like.
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I've been known to like a few Waits songs. If I made a list of things that I like that aren't popular in the FOT I think Tom would personally come to my house and punch me in the face but I like the show so I won't make that list.
There's a thread in show discussion about disagreeing with Tom.
Like the greatness of baseball.
Where? J.
Sounds like a gauntlet kicking up dust.
I like.
Hmm, I'm not finding it. I know it was somewhere.
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Im eagerly awaiting Mikes thoughts on the movie. Do you think Tom saw it and will discuss it on the show? I really enjoy his movie reviews, he hasnt done one in a while.
I thought it was just another dumb Tarantino movie. Here's how I break it down:
Chapter 1: dumb homage to Once Upon a Time in the West, complete with Ennio Morricone music. Since that movie included a family massacre, Tarantino has to rely on it to stage his family massacre. His imagination can go no further than what he's already seen in other movies.
Chapter 2: It occurred to me during the head bashing scene that this is the perfect analogy for watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. The Brad Pitt character even acknowledges this when he comments, pre-head bashing, that it was the next best thing to going to the movies. And sure enough, as the Eli Roth character starts swinging his bat, the audience began snickering and giggling at the jokey violence, Tarantino's trademark, just like the characters up on screen.
Chapter 3: Who knew that what World War II movies were truly lacking was a critique of German cinema. Why? Because Tarantino knows nothing beyond fucking movies (and he's probably too lazy to do any research to come up with anything historically accurate or interesting). This is why the bulk of the movie takes place in a movie theater and we get little side lectures on the flammability of nitrate film. It also looks like Tarantino has a new goofy obsession: strudel with cream. Get ready to see it in future films with his other goofy obsession: women's feet. Also, must he include that soundtrack music from White Lightning in every one of his movies?! Is it in his contract? It's really getting tired.
Chapter 4: A homage to the big shootout in Pulp Fiction (he's even quoting himself now!) except with Nazis instead of dope dealers. Also, another Mexican standoff which may also be in his contract.
Chapter 5: The grand finale that gets the biggest laugh with Pitt's bad accent (a I Love Lucy homage?). Of course, the whole fantasy of killing Hitler is just absurd to begin with, but Tarantino gives it his all. Was that a Dario Argento homage with the ghostly image in the smoke at the end? Who gives a shit?
As I was leaving the theater, I overheard a discussion among a group of elderly women (the old ladies in Bayonne always come out in droves for the most violent movies--it's a little scary). Anyway, one woman asked the group what they thought of it. Of course, they were all reluctant to admit they might as well have just thrown their $7 in the gutter. One woman said that none of it was true (i.e. the premise was dumb) and another woman said that it was funny. And that's it in a nutshell. Obviously I'm in the minority of people who don't find Tarantino cute and funny. And who am I to argue with a bunch of old ladies who want to have a few laughs watching a Nazi get his head bashed in?
What other film did he use the White Lightning soundtrack in Kill Bill? Anybody know where i could purchase that White Lightning soundtrack?
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where does the Eli Roth hatred stem from? I know nothing about him but didn't see what was so awful about him in this movie.
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where does the Eli Roth hatred stem from? I know nothing about him but didn't see what was so awful about him in this movie.
He's an easy target because he's embraced his status as a so-called "torture porn" auteur and likes to pose for pictures drenched in blood holding an ax for Fangoria and such. While he's obviously not a top-shelf thesp, he's pretty amusing in his CABIN FEVER cameo and he was fine in his very small IB role -- I took his over-the-top Boston accent to be intentionally amusing and I enjoyed his "Italian" later in the film. I suspect that the bulk of the anti-Roth brigade have not seen any of his films and also know nothing about him.
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where does the Eli Roth hatred stem from? I know nothing about him but didn't see what was so awful about him in this movie.
He's an easy target because he's embraced his status as a so-called "torture porn" auteur and likes to pose for pictures drenched in blood holding an ax for Fangoria and such. While he's obviously not a top-shelf thesp, he's pretty amusing in his CABIN FEVER cameo and he was fine in his very small IB role -- I took his over-the-top Boston accent to be intentionally amusing and I enjoyed his "Italian" later in the film. I suspect that the bulk of the anti-Roth brigade have not seen any of his films and also know nothing about him.
His accent took me out of the movie. I didn't think he was horrible in his tiny part in Death Proof although I didn't like that movie. I've only seen the first Hostel which I had mixed feelings about. SPOILER ALERT: I thought the first half was an awesome mix of building tension and strait up creepiness, the whole torture house thing was kind of gore for the sake of gore and I hated the ending. No one should have made it out alive in that one.
Fredricks, if we find that other thread I'll do up a list.
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I suspect that the bulk of the anti-Roth brigade have not seen any of his films and also know nothing about him.
I have no opinion of him as an actor, but Hostel was terrible. Not immoral or indicative of the decline of the West, just dull. My wife likes horror movies a lot more than I and she didn't like it either.
His Thanksgiving trailer was the best part about Grindhouse.
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Just saw it and wished that I felt strongly about it, love or hate. There were a few moments that I think are some of QT's best ever, but mostly I just found myself kinda bored - a reaction I've never had to any of his other films (other than the diner scene in Deathproof).
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I thought Christof Waltz was really good.
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Fredricks, if we find that other thread I'll do up a list.
http://www.friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,4958.0.html
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where does the Eli Roth hatred stem from? I know nothing about him but didn't see what was so awful about him in this movie.
He's an easy target because he's embraced his status as a so-called "torture porn" auteur and likes to pose for pictures drenched in blood holding an ax for Fangoria and such. While he's obviously not a top-shelf thesp, he's pretty amusing in his CABIN FEVER cameo and he was fine in his very small IB role -- I took his over-the-top Boston accent to be intentionally amusing and I enjoyed his "Italian" later in the film. I suspect that the bulk of the anti-Roth brigade have not seen any of his films and also know nothing about him.
His accent took me out of the movie. I didn't think he was horrible in his tiny part in Death Proof although I didn't like that movie. I've only seen the first Hostel which I had mixed feelings about. SPOILER ALERT: I thought the first half was an awesome mix of building tension and strait up creepiness, the whole torture house thing was kind of gore for the sake of gore and I hated the ending. No one should have made it out alive in that one.
Hostel: Part II is far superior. Aside from one literal bloodbath it's fairly restrained and skillfully made.
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Hostel: Part II is far superior. Aside from one literal bloodbath it's fairly restrained and skillfully made.
No kidding? I liked Part 1 fine, but just kind of ignored Part 2 because I figured that was all the Hostel I'd ever need in my life. But hearing that makes me kind of want to check it out now.
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Heres a list of every single homage in the film. This kind of makes me want to see it again.
http://www.scarecrow.com/2009/08/27/before-they-were-basterds/
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I just saw this movie and HOLY SHIT did I like it.
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I just got back home from seeing this. I loved it. It had me all the way through. Completely fun to watch.
I was able to forgot about the twitchy greaseball who created it.
I didn't even know who Eli Roth was, but I thought he was one of the few weak spots. He stood out like a celebrity cameo for no reason. Definitely the worst acting in the movie.
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i don't really have a problem with sir roth, but he does kind of seem like a ben stiller character at times, don't he?
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i don't really have a problem with sir roth, but he does kind of seem like a ben stiller character at times, don't he?
i would agree with this, even on a physical level.
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I hated this movie so much. No character could walk by a table without having a sit-down and spending 20 minutes there.
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I heard a Quentin interview on Fresh Air. It was pretty entertaining, especially the part where he called his dialogue "A cross between song lyrics and poetry".
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I hated this movie so much. No character could walk by a table without having a sit-down and spending 20 minutes there.
initially, i knew i wasnt going to like this movie because brad pitt is in it (he makes my skin crawl), it's the weirdest cast in history, and its from quentin tarantino. still, i always make a point to give it a try.
spoony, your brief critique makes me want to wait for the dollar theatre.
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initially, i knew i wasnt going to like this movie because brad pitt is in it (he makes my skin crawl)
why?
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I heard a Quentin interview on Fresh Air. It was pretty entertaining, especially the part where he called his dialogue "A cross between song lyrics and poetry".
Wow, that is really funny. You are the best Jeremy.
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I heard a Quentin interview on Fresh Air. It was pretty entertaining, especially the part where he called his dialogue "A cross between song lyrics and poetry".
Rapid-fire poetry that you have to read in subtitles for two and a half hours. I'm no cretin and I can watch a subtitled film, but could you at least make one concession to the guy losing circulation in his legs.
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I had to pee a half hour into the movie. It made it seem that much longer. I have to watch again to give a proper critique, when my mind is not preoccupied.
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I had to pee a half hour into the movie. It made it seem that much longer. I have to watch again to give a proper critique, when my mind is not preoccupied with bathroom parts.
Repaired.
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I saw it Sunday in LA with Teddy Rockstar and Sparkiepop and I thought it was
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I saw it Sunday in LA with Teddy Rockstar and Sparkiepop and I thought it was
Hahaha.
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I saw it Sunday in LA with Teddy Rockstar and Sparkiepop and I thought it was
...so thrilling that just thinking about it made you want to go out and go see it again before you even finished typing?
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(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/9/3/128964609103757679.jpg)
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(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/9/3/128964609103757679.jpg)
eww Larry?
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I saw it Sunday in LA with Teddy Rockstar and Sparkiepop and I thought it was
Now that I think about it you're right. It definitely was as most things are except things that aren't but those aren't things.
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Big Fan
September 17th
Landmark NuArt Theatre
11272 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90025
5:00 7:30 10:00
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who's gonna backpedal first, fellas?
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I came in, expecting to hate this movie and ended up walking away thinking it wasn't too shabby!
The dialogue isn't Tarantino typical L.A. over the top yelling/cursing deal that he usually loves doing, so that was refreshing. I definitely need a second viewing to see if my liking of the movie sticks. His movies are notorious for me liking them in the theater and then hating them upon second viewing except for hating the Grindhouse movies right off the bat.
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...except for hating the Grindhouse movies right off the bat.
one of the few movies ive ever walked out of, another one being Marie Antoinette.
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See, I like Death Proof, though that is almost 100% because Kurt Russell is awesome.
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See, I like Death Proof, though that is almost 100% because Kurt Russell is awesome.
I definitely liked Death Proof more than Planet Terrible(haha get it). I liked probably the last 15 minutes of the movie which was 15 minutes more than Planet Terror had.
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See, I like Death Proof, though that is almost 100% because Kurt Russell is awesome.
I like 'The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes'.
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See, I like Death Proof, though that is almost 100% because Kurt Russell is awesome.
I definitely liked Death Proof more than Planet Terrible(haha get it). I liked probably the last 15 minutes of the movie which was 15 minutes more than Planet Terror had.
I liked Planet Terror, thought it was hilarious, almost as funny as Terminator 3. Deathproof was only good while Kurt Russel was on screen.
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I finally saw this. I can't say it did much for me in any way. I didn't love it but I didn't hate it. There were parts of it that were really good - the opening scene was terrific, and Tarantino seemed to think so as well since he repeated it two or three more times before the movie ended. I agree with everyone that Waltz was really great and some of the other actors were good too, but it all added up to a pretty "blah" experience.
I think Tom had it dead-on when he described it as the work of a clearly crazy person.
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finally got around to seeing this last night.
OOOOOOOMMMMMMGGGGG!!!!!1
my love for this tarantino fellow continues to soar with every new flick.
and now i can safely read this thread (14 pages, really?)
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I'm now obsessed with Eli Roth. He keeps teasing fangirls in the worst (best?) way. I think it counts as sexting.
I love that he and Christoph Waltz hang out.
I'm showing Christoph how twitter works. I just updated and he asked me "Does this go out to everyone's Blueberry?"
Oh, blueberries. I dedicate this picture to all of you jerks in FOTchat who made fun of me for my burgeoning crush on Eli and called him a caveman or whatever.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/20fp7nq.jpg)
He can totally knock me over the head with his club and drag me back to his cave.
TMI?
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I'm now obsessed with Eli Roth. He keeps teasing fangirls in the worst (best?) way. I think it counts as sexting.
I love that he and Christoph Waltz hang out.
I'm showing Christoph how twitter works. I just updated and he asked me "Does this go out to everyone's Blueberry?"
Oh, blueberries. I dedicate this picture to all of you jerks in FOTchat who made fun of me for my burgeoning crush on Eli and called him a caveman or whatever.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/20fp7nq.jpg)
He can totally knock me over the head with his club and drag me back to his cave.
TMI?
gross
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
But you give Larry the brush-off? Sometimes I don't get you.
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
But you give Larry the brush-off? Sometimes I don't get you.
I'm a complicated person.
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I thought you were attracted to a different species.
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I thought you were attracted to a different species.
No, I'm actually attracted to humans.
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
i feel sick inside
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He was bummed the questions we asked him during the first round were so tame, so we're doing a second round of Ask Eli. I asked him what his favorite Robert Pollard song is (solo or otherwise).
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He was bummed the questions we asked him during the first round were so tame, so we're doing a second round of Ask Eli. I asked him what his favorite Robert Pollard song is (solo or otherwise).
I don't think he'd know who Robert Pollard is. So, allow me to answer on his behalf: "Flat Beauty"!
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He was bummed the questions we asked him during the first round were so tame, so we're doing a second round of Ask Eli. I asked him what his favorite Robert Pollard song is (solo or otherwise).
I don't think he'd know who Robert Pollard is. So, allow me to answer on his behalf: "Flat Beauty"!
Mine changes depending on how I feel. Right now, it's "Tractor Rape Chain," but it's sometimes "Window of My World," "And I Don't (So Now I Do)," "Subspace Biographies," "Everybody Thinks I'm a Raincloud (When I'm Not Looking)," "I Am a Scientist," and sometimes, but not very often, "Kicker of Elves."
And now that song is stuck in my head doo doo doo doo doo doo kicker of elves, etc.
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I'm now obsessed with Eli Roth. He keeps teasing fangirls in the worst (best?) way. I think it counts as sexting.
I love that he and Christoph Waltz hang out.
I'm showing Christoph how twitter works. I just updated and he asked me "Does this go out to everyone's Blueberry?"
Oh, blueberries. I dedicate this picture to all of you jerks in FOTchat who made fun of me for my burgeoning crush on Eli and called him a caveman or whatever.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/20fp7nq.jpg)
He can totally knock me over the head with his club and drag me back to his cave.
TMI?
No, just not enough Haldol.
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The movie was worth it to me just to hear Mike Myers deliver the line in which he asks for a scotch with "no junk in it."
What was the Morricone "Untouchables" theme doing in the Stiglitz jailbreak scene? Seemed lazy. Or was it a clever inside Tarantino joke?
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What was the Morricone "Untouchables" theme doing in the Stiglitz jailbreak scene? Seemed lazy. Or was it a clever inside Tarantino joke?
That's from Morricone's score for Battle of Algiers. I think he may have reworked it later for Untouchables.
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What was the Morricone "Untouchables" theme doing in the Stiglitz jailbreak scene? Seemed lazy. Or was it a clever inside Tarantino joke?
That's from Morricone's score for Battle of Algiers. I think he may have reworked it later for Untouchables.
Ah. So Morricone was lazy too! Why aren't these two icons of cinema more like me...not so lazy?
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
i feel sick inside
I feel a little sick inside too. Um, apparently girls started sending him naked pics, which he encouraged. And he basically had cyber sex with at least two girls via myspace, and he asked for one girl's number so they could have phone sex? I don't know.
So then about half of ONTD is like, "Whatever, who cares, it's just boobberries," and the other half are, "STAY CLASSY, YOU WHORES," and I guess I'm somewhere in between. I can kind of relate. I was 19 once. Girls do stupid things at that age. Joe Francis made his fortune exploiting that. I'm just lucky I limited my stupidity to one guy, and I'm actually still friends with him.
Eli wrote this lengthy thing supporting the girls who sent him nudes, saying it was just a bit of fun. Yeah, he's kind of a creep, but I still like him as a person... even if I think his torture porn movies suck.
I think it went a little too far, but it sure as hell was fun to watch.
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RUDE.
Anyway, we'd been fangirling over him for a while, but it really started here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39363044.html).
And then he became our boyfriend here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39532092.html).
And we completely forgot about Alexander Skarsgård at this point (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39544439.html).
And then shit just got real (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39554685.html).
i feel sick inside
I feel a little sick inside too. Um, apparently girls started sending him naked pics, which he encouraged. And he basically had cyber sex with at least two girls via myspace, and he asked for one girl's number so they could have phone sex? I don't know.
So then about half of ONTD is like, "Whatever, who cares, it's just boobberries," and the other half are, "STAY CLASSY, YOU WHORES," and I guess I'm somewhere in between. I can kind of relate. I was 19 once. Girls do stupid things at that age. Joe Francis made his fortune exploiting that. I'm just lucky I limited my stupidity to one guy, and I'm actually still friends with him.
Eli wrote this lengthy thing supporting the girls who sent him nudes, saying it was just a bit of fun. Yeah, he's kind of a creep, but I still like him as a person... even if I think his torture porn movies suck.
I think it went a little too far, but it sure as hell was fun to watch.
His facility with regional accents goes a long way towards covering for some of the creepier aspects of his personality.
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(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/9/3/128964609103757679.jpg)
I totally called it. Tom has falsetto'd "wait for the cream!" at least five times. It's SO SO SO the best line from this movie.
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I totally called it. Tom has falsetto'd "wait for the cream!" at least five times. It's SO SO SO the best line from this movie.
And there were a lot of lines to choose from. Unending lines from unending dialogue.