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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: emdasher on December 27, 2008, 05:24:36 PM
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What is the thing that you are sure is fantastic but you will not watch/listen to?
I have never heard a single track off of Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. I feel like it couldn't possibly meet the expectations that its admirers have built up for it.
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What is the thing that you are sure is fantastic but you will not watch/listen to?
I have never heard a single track off of Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. I feel like it couldn't possibly meet the expectations that its admirers have built up for it.
you're living an incomplete life.
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Ulysses.
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It's an old one, but Titanic. I still won't see it, either. That movie was shoved down peoples throats way too hard.
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What is the thing that you are sure is fantastic but you will not watch/listen to?
I have never heard a single track off of Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. I feel like it couldn't possibly meet the expectations that its admirers have built up for it.
I finally caved in and downloaded this album. It sounds like dumb children's music.
Also:
The Dark Knight
Lil Wayne
Confederacy of Dunces
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I've never seen Titanic either, but it's not like I expect it to be good.
Ulysses is like a prison shower; you've got to pay attention to where the bar of soap goes. Yes! I just came up with that!
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The Beatles.
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Ive never seen Titanic, Jaws, or any of the Rocky movies.
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I've never read Ulysses for it's reputation for indulgence. Sounds like a great book for scholars but is it fun to read? I've always had my doubts. I don't doubt that it probably is the greatest English-language literary work though.
I've never seen Titanic, Jaws or E.T. I've only heard one or two NMH songs and thought it sounded like MBV meets TMBG. MBV good, TMBG barf.
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I can't be an advocate for in the aeroplane over the sea. I was the perfect audience for it when it came out and was completely obsessed with it, now I can barely listen to it without dry heaving. I think you may have just missed the bus.
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I can't be an advocate for in the aeroplane over the sea. I was the perfect audience for it when it came out and was completely obsessed with it, now I can barely listen to it without dry heaving. I think you may have just missed the bus.
A local librarian has one of the images from the album cover tattooed on her arm from elbow to shoulder. She's going to regret that when she tries to join the farden club in 30 years.
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I still haven't seen a single episode of The Sopranos as I generally don't like mafiosi films.
Neutral Milk Hotel's Hitler Drumhead is OK, I suppose. Bit much.
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Ditto on Sopranos - watched the first three-four episodes when it first aired, didn't feel it, stopped. I realize it's a great show and all, but I can't get into it now.
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Infinite Jest
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Lost - My friend said it was like 'TV crack'. More like 'TV ASS-crack' if you ask me. I think it was in it's second season so we rented the first season DVDs. We made it through about five episodes and the formula became oh so stale. Didn't like the characters, didn't like the dialog and didn't give a flying fig about the monster in the jungle. I like a mystery but talk about dragging it out. BO-ring.
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Yeah, I have zero interest in Lost. I can tell it's just meaningless mystery-mongering.
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I hate lost!!! The characters are awful, the acting is nothing (for this scene, clench your jaw and look intense.) and the way they drag on plot lines is so obnoxious. They clearly think it's a david lynch who shot laura palmer style of arc, but the beauty of twin peaks is that every mundane scene was engaging, lost has got nothing going on ever.
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I had the same experience with Lost as Patrick did - made it 7-8 episodes. Snoozefest. And everything seems like an afterthought. "No maaan, you don't understand - the others are an island who is the afterlife which is...." Zzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Where are you?
I'm over here
don't go over there
why
because...
*drums*
*cut to black*
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cue: flashback episode
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In the hope of building a consensus on the matter: I bailed out of Lost after watching the first episode. No thanks.
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I like Lost but it's far from perfect. The good parts are enough to keep me watching, but some of it is downright infuriating, especially the fact that if anyone asked the questions that any reasonable person would ask in a given situation, the mystery would've been solved about 50 episodes ago.
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You will like this: We happened to name our dog Hurley after Endurance exploration photographer Frank Hurley AND Minutemen drummer George Hurley..what a combo, right? That is what we thought.
Yet every stranger we run into who asks what his name is, we get the standard, "Oooh, after the guy on 'Lost', right?"
Uhg.
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AND Minutemen drummer George Hurley
does your dog have awesome hair?
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I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
My pick: Lawrence of Arabia. I've heard a lot of praise for it over the years, but I can't. Not even sure why.
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Lawrence of Arabia is really good. I think you'd like it. It's no Hacksaw-ist, but still.
I got one: the films of Bela Tarr. I own at least three of them on DVD, haven't seen a single one. I'm sure they're great.
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I got one: the films of Bela Tarr. I own at least three of them on DVD, haven't seen a single one. I'm sure they're great.
Satantango is funnier than you might think. Except for the cat torture.
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I know what you mean about Lawrence of Arabia. I have recorded it seventeen thousand times and never watched it for some reason. (In fact, I just recorded it for the seventeen thousand and first time yesterday.) It took me forever to watch Citizen Kane, too, although I finally managed that 10-15 years ago. I still haven't seen Doctor Zhivago, either.
Re Lost, I find the mystery ungripping and don't like any of the characters, but I stick with it because I like having an hourlong show to watch every day.
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I got one: the films of Bela Tarr. I own at least three of them on DVD, haven't seen a single one. I'm sure they're great.
Satantango is funnier than you might think. Except for the cat torture.
I've only heard great things. I can't explain it.
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I got one: the films of Bela Tarr. I own at least three of them on DVD, haven't seen a single one. I'm sure they're great.
Werckmeister Harmoniak is stellar.
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AND Minutemen drummer George Hurley
does your dog have awesome hair?
I wouldn't say it is awesome in the George Hurley vein but it is quite nice thanks to the frequent bathing he gets from the wife.
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Ive never seen . . . any of the Rocky movies.
Well, then, set aside New Year's Day: Rockys 1-5 will air on AMC starting at 3 p.m.
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Ive never seen . . . any of the Rocky movies.
Well, then, set aside New Year's Day: Rockys 1-5 will air on AMC starting at 3 p.m.
That New Year's Day marathon's really got people talkin.'
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Ive never seen . . . any of the Rocky movies.
Well, then, set aside New Year's Day: Rockys 1-5 will air on AMC starting at 3 p.m.
That New Year's Day marathon's really got people talkin.'
Touche!
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I love Lost. Me and afk never miss it. And I refuse to be cowed by your insistence that my taste doesn't match yours. Screw yourself.
PS, I like Rush, too.
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My old roommate had The Godfather trilogy and, fully aware that these are some of the best American movies ever made, I resested ever sitting down to even start them.
I don't know if this counts in this thread, but I've tried to read several different Richard Price novels and I can't get very far into them even though I totally appreciate his style and subject and everything. Lush Life taunts me everytime I pass it now.
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PS, I like Rush, too.
Ditto.
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I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
My pick: Lawrence of Arabia. I've heard a lot of praise for it over the years, but I can't. Not even sure why.
yes! This is so true! I know in theory I would like lawrence of arabia, but I just can't sit down and watch it. I've justified it by spouting what others have said about it only being possible to watch it on the big screen.
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I love Lost. Me and afk never miss it. And I refuse to be cowed by your insistence that my taste doesn't match yours. Screw yourself.
PS, I like Rush, too.
I've never seen Lost and somehow I've managed to avoid any kind of spoilers, so I'm looking forward to catching up with it. Basically all I know is some character names on an island. and something about a smoke monster. I figure I'll just wait until it's over in a few years and watch all the seasons in a row. I'm a sucker when it comes to serialized TV.
My biggest is probably Deadwood. Love westerns, know a lot of people who love it, never saw a single episode. I picked up the complete series last week but I have no idea when I'll get around to watching it.
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theres a dinosaur and polar bear on the island.
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I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
oh, Jouster, you should know better.
on the other hand, i wish i could contribute to this but im drawing a blank on a list i know exists somewhere in my head. all i can think of are things ive never seen/heard/read because i know theyre terrible...you just know.
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I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
Yep. Your right. My derail. Apologies.
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The British "Office"
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Whuuut?? Do I have to disown you now???
I think I might.
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I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
My pick: Lawrence of Arabia. I've heard a lot of praise for it over the years, but I can't. Not even sure why.
yes! This is so true! I know in theory I would like lawrence of arabia, but I just can't sit down and watch it. I've justified it by spouting what others have said about it only being possible to watch it on the big screen.
Have you heard Jon Stewart's joke about how the best way to see Lawrence of Arabia is on an iPod.
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The British "Office"
Are you havin' a laugh?
Is he havin' a laugh?
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"Lost" is a piece of shit that I thoroughly enjoy watching. I would never try to defend it, convert others, or analyze it too deeply. Some people, like Jeff Jensen at Entertainment Weekly, deconstruct the show ad nauseum. I think that would be about as gratifying as deconstructing "According To Jim." Having a character named John Locke (whose actions, by the way, have nothing to do with the philosophy of his namesake) does not make the show profound. It's fun. I enjoy it. That is all.
Everyone tells me I have to listen to The Decemberists. They may be stellar, but from the little I've heard, I am not interested.
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You are not missing anything with The Decemberists.
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I hate "Lost" but usually end up watching it anyway. Tom : Kevin Smith movies :: I : "Lost."
I thought this was supposed to about stuff we're sure is great, but won't watch/listen to, not stuff we watched/listened to and didn't like.
My pick: Lawrence of Arabia. I've heard a lot of praise for it over the years, but I can't. Not even sure why.
yes! This is so true! I know in theory I would like lawrence of arabia, but I just can't sit down and watch it. I've justified it by spouting what others have said about it only being possible to watch it on the big screen.
I saw Lawrence of Arabia at the Egyptian Theater in Los Angeles last year. I also saw Gone With the Wind at the Arclight. It turns out the best way to see old-ish, possibly-boring movies is on a giant screen with a huge audience.
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You people waste too much time on hate. I'm a hell of a lot more interested in what you like and why, rather than how what you don't like makes you hip. I may be repeating myself, but it seems to be all the rage.
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I'll take everyone here's word for it that Scrubs is awesome.
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Talking about wasted time is the most meaningless argument anybody could ever make on a message board.
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DFK,
I hope hope hope you don't think anything I wrote above was aimed at you. I love watching Lost, but I just get irked when Jeff Jensen (and others like my former boss) analyzes it from 100 different angles. In my opinion, it does not deserve the same treatment as, say, Finnegan's Wake.
Also, you are 100% right. Too much negativity at times on the board. Sometimes, it is just easier to critique. We need to fight that urge So to show solidarity in your struggle for positivity, I will say loud and proud "I LIKE GENESIS CIRCA 1970-1977 ! ! !
Much respect,
JFM
:o ;D (my 5-year-old asked me to add these emoticons)
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DFK,
I hope hope hope you don't think anything I wrote above was aimed at you. I love watching Lost, but I just get irked when Jeff Jensen (and others like my former boss) analyzes it from 100 different angles. In my opinion, it does not deserve the same treatment as, say, Finnegan's Wake.
Also, you are 100% right. Too much negativity at times on the board. Sometimes, it is just easier to critique. We need to fight that urge So to show solidarity in your struggle for positivity, I will say loud and proud "I LIKE GENESIS CIRCA 1970-1977 ! ! !
Much respect,
JFM
:o ;D (my 5-year-old asked me to add these emoticons)
Dear JFM,
You gotta get in to get out. And you are as far in as it gets.
Your pal,
dfk
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You people waste too much time on hate. I'm a hell of a lot more interested in what you like and why, rather than how what you don't like makes you hip. I may be repeating myself, but it seems to be all the rage.
While writing about and discussing things that one does like can be occasionally interesting and/or educational, it rarely is funny (in my opinion). Maybe I've been surrounded by negative jerks my entire life, but one thing that has always bonded me with friends & family is the time-honored tradition of Raggin' On things.
that said, let me present you with a list of things that I found rather awesome recently:
This (http://www.wimp.com/streetart/)
People Like Us & Ergo Phizmiz (http://www.peoplelikeus.org/codpaste.htm)
The art of Erin Cosgrove (http://www.erincosgrove.com/projects.html)
The riff to "All Right Now" by Free
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSN5WT3AEXM)
Nicole Atkin's 'Neptune City"
(thx Jonesey) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE5hK6eLkYI)
The riff to 'Limelight' by Rush
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnYddeEMzqA&feature=related)
Krampus: Bavaria's Christmas Demon (http://www.thelocal.de/gallery/341/)
Double Happiness Manufacturing (http://www.doublehappinessjeans.com/)
Bad Liquor Pond (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=23273708)
...and you know what? if you like any of this stuff too, that's great! If you don't, well that's fine too. You not liking something in no way impedes on my enjoyment of it.
Don't concern yourself so much with matters of Hip, Dave, because as I see it: that story with the box of wine & the Dirtbombs pretty much solidified you as being one of the hippest folks out there. For real.
happy new year.
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I watched Lawrence of Arabia today. On my 29" television. In chunks. Got almost to the intermission at one go (about two and a half hours), but then a phone call interrupted me. The final hour and a half--a different movie altogether--didn't grab me as much, plus I had cooking to do, so I paused more, but I still call it good.
I went in critical, because of all the hoopla, and I still enjoyed it. The first bit--the rise of our hero--is a wonderful boy's own adventure, if a little draggy in the desert; the rest--the crest and the fall--is choppier and less seamless but still fine. Lawrence is not two dimensional (Peter O'Toole is awfully good at emanating perversity and golden innocence at the same time), and even the flatter characters (Omar Shariff's, Anthony Quinn's, many of the Brits) are still interesting or at least entertaining (Jose Ferrer's lascivious Turk is a fine example of the latter). Claude Rains does a particularly nice turn as the puppet master. I was perturbed by Anthony Quinn's fake nose, and one scene, where Lawrence is supposed to have been sitting stock still for hours as the sands sweep across the desert yet his footprints are as defined at the end of the scene as at the beginning, irked me, but that's just enjoyable quibbling. All in all, well worth watching, and don't kid yourself you need to see it in a theater to do it justice. In fact, the possibility of pausing may make you like it more (and boy was I glad to be able to fast-forward through the overture and intermission).
Positive enough for you, DfK?
Derailing enough for you, Jouster?
ADDENDUM: Forgot to mention the almost complete absence of women. At one point, one sees what might be the backs of the heads of some heavily covered Arab ladies, and a bit later several are visible ululating in the distance. And a few dead, presumably raped women appear near the end, That's it, as far as I noticed.
See, what did I tell you: boy's own adventure.
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Girl Talk.
I've read all the rave reviews, but mashups have such limited appeal and so do dance parties for those of us who don't dance. I've never heard the music itself, but it would have to be godammned ridiculously good for me to pay to watch one guy perform it on a laptop with a bunch of Dan Deacon-damaged hipsters bouncing all around me.
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i enjoy dance shows when the bug hits and it doesnt even have to be good. im strictly confused by his appeal considering none of it sounds like original material, which is even more baffling because i know plenty of people full of talent AND their own material (music, writing, art, whatever) and they cant catch a break.
so he does a copy and paste of some tracks from junior high and all the kids love him. im not bitter, nor am i judging, again, im just very very confused.
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Girl Talk.
I've read all the rave reviews, but mashups have such limited appeal and so do dance parties for those of us who don't dance. I've never heard the music itself, but it would have to be godammned ridiculously good for me to pay to watch one guy perform it on a laptop with a bunch of Dan Deacon-damaged hipsters bouncing all around me.
I listen to the latest Girl Talk album a lot. And I seem to enjoy a bunch of it. But I am still not sure if I enjoy it as music or as a kind of funny joke. "Ha ha! Ol' Dirty Bastard over YLT's Autumn Sweater. Ha ha! Beastie Boys over Cat Stevens! Ha ha! Filthy rap lyrics over non-threatening white music!" If I am enjoying it as a joke, then five years from now, it will not old up at all in my estimation.
There are definitely moments that work. But they go as fast as they come and so the joy is fleeting. The next thing you know, he is sampling Whiter Shade of Pale and everything goes south.
Check it out, but with low expectations. It's at least good for a smirk.
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I haven't seen a single episode of The Sopranos either and I DO like mafia stories.
No reason, just haven't seen it.
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I refuse to watch The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I know it's not my thing, so I won't bother. The same can be said for Harry Potter. Ditto on The Sopranos, Godfather, and Lawrence of Arabia.
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This is not a reflection on your need to see the movie, but I once sat and watched the LOTR: two towers three times in a row because I was trapped in an airport for 14 hours & TBS played the same movie three times instead of playing all three movies. It put me into a deepest jet-lag / hallucination / trance / nightmare.
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Entourage.
I don't have HBO, but people seem to like this show.
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I love Lost. Me and afk never miss it. And I refuse to be cowed by your insistence that my taste doesn't match yours. Screw yourself.
Ditto. Lost is consistently suspenseful, and after they established an end date, they've been moving forward at full speed. Even the two-hour finales go by in a flash.
My biggest is probably Deadwood. Love westerns, know a lot of people who love it, never saw a single episode. I picked up the complete series last week but I have no idea when I'll get around to watching it.
That would probably be mine, too. Though there are probably any number of bands that fit the bill.
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The Pogues
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I've never done heroin. I hear it's pretty rad.
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The Pogues
+ The Hold Steady. I keep hearing that they're great, but I haven't bothered to listen. The phrase "pub rock" isn't helping.
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oh jeeze I've gotten into some serious arguments about the pogues. Their fans are so extreme, too, that I've gotten yelled at from just casually saying something like 'I just don't understand the appeal'.
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Citizen Kane never seen it.
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It's entertaining. I recommend it.
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The Pogues for me as well.
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Citizen Kane never seen it.
It looks great on a Zune.
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You people waste too much time on hate. I'm a hell of a lot more interested in what you like and why, rather than how what you don't like makes you hip.
Not trying to start a war or anything, but - this seems bizarre to me. The Best Show is almost entirely centered around bringin' the Hate and ridicule. And that's great - it's funny and entertaining, as are many of the observations on the forums. I'm puzzled why you'd frequent a radio show like TBS and and then complain about the perceived negativity of its listeners. That's like being a dittohead Limbaugh fan while accusing other dittoheads of being a bunch of right-wing blowhards.
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Both Van Gogh and elephants at the zoo drug paint around on canvases.
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The Pogues are entertaining. I recommend them.
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Man, this thread touches on a perfect topic in this "keeping up with the Anti-Joneses" miasma. I'd say most of my anxiety now stems from movies/tv shows/music i haven't consumed and reached an strong opinion. Took me so long to peruse this thread because this Maryland native hasn't watched any Wire (Yeah, me.)
I did watch Repo Man for the first time last year and fuckin' loved it, but in a rare way where I didn't kick myself for hopping on the bandwagon earlier. It was perfect and I seriously wish I could go away from something with that feeling more.
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Guided By Voices: enh. I did get a friend into them through the one song of theirs I knew and liked ("Teenage FBI," of all things), but I've always felt like I could live without hearing 'em. Sort of like how I could live without hearing Pavement, except I have heard a lot of Pavement.
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I will never end up watching the wire although i want to so badly
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Ditto on Sopranos - watched the first three-four episodes when it first aired, didn't feel it, stopped. I realize it's a great show and all, but I can't get into it now.
Here you go check it out its the whole series in 9 minutes.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgRwxx7au0&eurl=&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Now that I've seen it: it was pretty good.
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For some reason, reading that so many have missed the Sopranos pains me more than anything else on this list. That, and heroin. How could you not do these things?
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jazz music.
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Ween as an actual musical band. I can laugh at the HIV song every now and then.
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For some reason, reading that so many have missed the Sopranos pains me more than anything else on this list. That, and heroin. How could you not do these things?
im one of those people, in both circumstances.
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I'm realizing that I have a bad habit of dismissing entire genres of entertainment, even though I know there's good stuff there. I have total subconscious resistance to movies that are Westerns, medieval (castles, princesses), martial arts and most detective stuff. As for TV, I can't watch any police or hospital dramas no matter how much critical acclaim they have. With music, I'll actually try anything once, but am completely ambivalent to anything that could be described as Metal, aka, music for children.
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i can see your aversion to those things cutout; however, youre truly missing out on some good westerns and detective/whodunits (a la film noir). i cant imagine you missing out on anything good in martial arts or renaissance/period piece films.
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i cant imagine you missing out on anything good in martial arts
Not true. Even if you stick to the well-known stuff (Enter the Dragon, etc.), they're great entertainment.
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i cant imagine you missing out on anything good in martial arts
Not true. Even if you stick to the well-known stuff (Enter the Dragon, etc.), they're great entertainment.
ive tried. and ive tried. i cant do it. ive come to terms with that.
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I'm realizing that I have a bad habit of dismissing entire genres of entertainment, even though I know there's good stuff there. I have total subconscious resistance to movies that are Westerns, medieval (castles, princesses), martial arts and most detective stuff. As for TV, I can't watch any police or hospital dramas no matter how much critical acclaim they have. With music, I'll actually try anything once, but am completely ambivalent to anything that could be described as Metal, aka, music for children.
I didn't like Westerns (other than Tombstone) until I broke the seal by watching the Man with No Name trilogy box set. That, and the fact that I *live in the west* made me finally break down and start watching them. I've been working my way through John Ford/Wayne classics ever since. They really are good, and frankly easier to follow than the other kinds of older movies I tend to watch (fartsy European stuff and screwball comedies).
I never watched any crime/police shows until I started law school, and watched the first season of Law & Order, plus a few courtroom dramas. Then Monk & the Rockford Files. Procedural-type shows are often these perfectly tight and self-contained pieces of storytelling.
I've ended up liking most forms of genre fiction and movies. And I don't understand why people make fun of historical novels except when they're by Gore Vidal.
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I've ended up liking most forms of genre fiction and movies. And I don't understand why people make fun of historical novels except when they're by Gore Vidal.
Me too. The older I get, the more easily I'm satisfied by well-crafted potboilers. In my late teens and 20s I was a serious art/movie/lit snob, but I'm mellowing as I get older.
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I find that the older I get, the more I just want to be entertained.
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I find that the older I get, the more I just want to be entertained.
Is that why you just watched Salo the other day?
I know what you mean, though. English classes in college kinda dulled my tolerance for heavy lit*.
*says the person who just read Infinite Jest. Totally bragging.
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Monk.
ive never seen one episode but everyone says its funny. although, i did just see my first episode (featuring john torturro)...and teared up.
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Things that I instinctively avoid for some reason, although I have a hunch that I might like them, include TV series like Dexter, Grey's Anatomy, 30 Rock, and Mad Men. Why avoid these? No idea.
Things that I instinctively avoid because I know I will dislike them include any movies featuring vampires, wizardry, spells, medieval shit, anything remotely Tolkienesque, "special powers," weddings and wedding planning, Owen Wilson and James Van Der Beek.
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Oh man, medieval shit is the BEST. Esp, if it has Julia Ormond playing a princess of some sort. Except for First Knight. Seriously, what gave with the costuming on that film?? Sean Connery looked like a cop. >:(
(http://www.videobusiness.com/articles/images/VB/20080421/First-Knight.jpg)
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Things that I instinctively avoid for some reason, although I have a hunch that I might like them, include TV series like Dexter, Grey's Anatomy, 30 Rock, and Mad Men. Why avoid these? No idea.
dexter sucks, grey's anatomy suck, you can skip them.
I love mad men. it doesn't appeal to everyone i guess but i think it's one of the best things on tv recently.
and avoiding 30 rock makes no sense. it's fucking hilarious. now that it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia done with it's season it's definitely the funniest show right now.
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ADDENDUM: Forgot to mention the almost complete absence of women. At one point, one sees what might be the backs of the heads of some heavily covered Arab ladies, and a bit later several are visible ululating in the distance. And a few dead, presumably raped women appear near the end, That's it, as far as I noticed.
See, what did I tell you: boy's own adventure.
Boy's own adventure? Or gay boy's own adventure?
Interpreting the sexuality of someone who never clearly identified his own preferences might be unfair, but there is a lot of evidence to at least question T.E. Lawrence's avoidance of the subject. More importantly, though, is that the film itself recognizes T.E.'s potential homosexuality. Remember when, in the film, he prances around on top of the train, waving his gun around? Both David Lean and Peter O'Toole seemed to place at least some importance on that aspect of T.E.'s character. Which might also explain the lack of female roles in the film. How could a gay character have a love interest?
Well, that, and the fact that it takes place in an Arabian country during the early twentieth century.
ANYWAY:
I do love Lawrence of Arabia. Actually, I've grown to love a lot of the epic films of the 50s and 60s in all of their ostentatiousness (The Red Shoes and all of the work of The Archers immediately comes to mind). And that is in large part what I love about Lawrence of Arabia: it's scope. I've always wanted to see it in a theater where, I imagine, those shots in the desert look especially epic; the long shot of Lawrence slowly coming over the horizon, at first appearing as just a speck.
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I've never done heroin. I hear it's pretty rad.
In all seriousness, I bet I would love acid or shrooms, but I'm way too scared of what would happen to my fragile, fragile brain if I were to take them.
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Oh, good heavens, of course T. E. Lawrence as portrayed by Peter O'Toole is madly gay. The film isn't exactly subtle on that score. Nor is it subtle on the subject of his sadomasochistic tendencies.*
And of course the absence of women is perfectly understandable. It's just a little startling when you realize you haven't (clearly) seen one woman in all of the many minutes that make up this long movie.
*Psst, whenever I call something "a boy's own adventure," homoeroticism is implicit in the term.
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and avoiding 30 rock makes no sense. it's fucking hilarious. now that it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia done with it's season it's definitely the funniest show right now.
Definitely. Do yourself a favour! I know that the whole idea of this is that the avoidance is irrational, but it really is a fantastic show.
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Response after a brief skimming of this list: I will never watch Titanic, because all the people who told me, "no, seriously, it's really good" were the same people who said that about Forrest fucking Gump, which I watched TWICE just to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
That, and I generally won't see anything on Broadway anymore unless family is in town and they're paying. But to be more specific: Neil LaBute. Don't care! Also, any David Mamet except Glengarry Glen Ross, which I admit is pretty good. And I will never see Stuff Happens in any medium. WHO GIVES A SHIT.
I won't read Chuck Klosterman or Chuck Palaniuk. I know the latter is crap, and the former might be OK, but I'm judging a book by its cover here.
Agreed on Scrubs. I will also never watch House or Boston Legal.
In comics, I avoided Brian Michael Bendis for years, then finally gave in and I'm still ambivalent, leaning towards I-was-right-all-along. Half the time it feels like the guy doesn't understand basic story construction, not to mention that it feels like I'm reading a bowdlerized transcript of the Howard Stern show, but spoken by superheroes. Sometimes it can be pretty good, though.
Now, general thread responses:
I'm just "meh" about a lot of indie rock, including Pavement (I actually like both the Silver Jews and Malkmus' solo stuff better), Neutral Milk Hotel, Animal Collective, Arcade Fire, My Morning Jacket, etc. etc. I don't hate any of it, but I do feel like I'm missing something. Love GBV, though.
I love Lost, Lawrence of Arabia, and The Pogues. I like Rush.
Here is my ultimate sin: I like The Grateful Dead, and not just their studio work.
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Speaking of Tolkeinesque stuff, just finished watching Pan's Labyrinth. Holy moley, that was pretty good.
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Oh, another one: Will Oldham, aka Bonnie "Prince" Billy. I don't even want to take the time to listen to it for free.
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Oh, another one: Will Oldham, aka Bonnie "Prince" Billy. I don't even want to take the time to listen to it for free.
"A Minor Place" is so good. Ridiculously good. If that album doesn't give you the willies then you are possibly a replicant.
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I know it's pointless - or rather, it's the whole point of the thread - but anyway I want to keep rebutting people on this topic, too.
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I have avoided 24, LOTR, Harry Potter (books and movies), Family Guy.
For me, I almost called in with The Pogue's for TBSOWFMU's topic "Now I Get It." Hated my first introduction -- a friend whose tastes I liked gave me Hell's Ditch. It took me years to give them another chance and I love them now.
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Same for me with the Pogues and nowadays I have total respect for Shane McGowan & co, songwriting-wise anyway. Just to callback to the karaoke thread for good measure, my favorite of all-time to sing is "Fairytale of New York" with a little help from the wife.
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Same for me with the Pogues and nowadays I have total respect for Shane McGowan & co, songwriting-wise anyway. Just to callback to the karaoke thread for good measure, my favorite of all-time to sing is "Fairytale of New York" with a little help from the wife.
Ha. I've done that with the wife, too. She may have put too much into the "You scumbag..." line but good times.
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I keep hearing "Extras" is (or was) great, so I don't know why I haven't seen a single episode yet. Same with "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia," and pretty much every other critically-lauded half-hour comedy, with the exception of "Flight of the Conchords."
Am I wrong for not thinking that "Chuck" would be great if I ever watched it? People seem to like it, but I get the feeling that it's just like "Scrubs," only with spy-related stuff. Also, it's an hour long.
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I will probably never watch this, despite all the raving about it:
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Neil Patrick Harris: I don't get it.
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No Age
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I will probably never watch this, despite all the raving about it:
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I think it's a decent 3 x 15 minutes.
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I've never done heroin. I hear it's pretty rad.
In all seriousness, I bet I would love acid or shrooms, but I'm way too scared of what would happen to my fragile, fragile brain if I were to take them.
I completely agree, to such an extent that I could have written that message.
That's why I'm planning to delay my experimentation with drugs until I am well into old age. If it fucks me up too badly, well, no problem. My mind will be addled and atrophied by that point anyway.
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I've never done heroin. I hear it's pretty rad.
In all seriousness, I bet I would love acid or shrooms, but I'm way too scared of what would happen to my fragile, fragile brain if I were to take them.
I completely agree, to such an extent that I could have written that message.
That's why I'm planning to delay my experimentation with drugs until I am well into old age. If it fucks me up too badly, well, no problem. My mind will be addled and atrophied by that point anyway.
Ditto
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You'll probably be disappointed.
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Drugs make people less interesting.
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Except to other people taking drugs.
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You'll probably be disappointed.
I am pretty sure that's true. So you won't be disappointed if I don't get around to it, right?
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Well, I would be pretty impressed if you hobbled your rickety way to a corner to cop a rock when you were eighty, but I certainly won't be disappointed if you don't. Especially since I'll probably be dead by then anyway.
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I have avoided 24, Harry Potter (books and movies), Family Guy.
Ditto all of these, though I did catch an episode of FG once and hoo boy, what a piece of crap. Totally unfunny. I also feel like 24 would totally enrage me on civil liberties grounds and sheer racist stupidity, and so I've managed to successfully avoid it.
Have not seen Dr. Horrible either, but Joss Whedon is hit-or-miss for me; the Buffy musical made me want to die by shrinking into a little heavy lump of mass, like a dwarf star of embarrassment. Haven't heard No Age, caught one episode of Extras and didn't like it (all cringe, no laffs), watched the pilot for Chuck and thought it sucked. I also watched one episode of Flight of the Conchords and was left scratching my head, even though I've laughed at peoples' descriptions of the show; it's like it's more funny to hear described than to actually watch. I also rented season one of Heroes and couldn't make it past the first episode.
I'll probably wind up hearing some Bonnie "Prince" Billy at some point (I must have some mp3s, maybe from Salon.com?), but I feel like I probably won't like it.
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I'll probably wind up hearing some Bonnie "Prince" Billy at some point (I must have some mp3s, maybe from Salon.com?), but I feel like I probably won't like it.
I think I put an album by him on my pen-pal pack. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I'll know that behind that beard is the titanium skull of a terminator.
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OK, I'll put it on my Zune. But there goes my answer to this thread! I'm a total pushover.
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OK, I'll put it on my Zune. But there goes my answer to this thread! I'm a total pushover.
I don't like Joss Whedon, except for his name, but I'm going to make your life a living hell if you don't watch that musical episode of Buffy. TODAY.
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thought of a couple other music related ones-
radiohead
deerhunter
pandora.com
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Slumdog Millionaire.
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TV on the Radio.
I wish those kids all the best in life, but it's just not for me.
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Also add to my list: Battlestar Galactica
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Swingers.
When this movie was huge there was some guy at our studio who would run around saying everything was/wasn't money.
God, I hated that guy.
I spied Vince Vaughn's smug mug on the bar tv last night and wondered if the present day FWD could have evolved without a Swingers somewhere in it's past.
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Slumdog Millionaire.
originally, i was on board with this movie but somehow it was lost when they brought in "...version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" and love story.
co-workers are hounding me to see this movie despite not seeing this movie themselves, but they "heard it was good".