Author Topic: Hot Streak/Cold Streak  (Read 27526 times)

iAmBaronVonTito

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 04:23:04 PM »
Cold streak: Music journalism.
Its not just about there being no Nick Kents or singular journalists or writers. There might be a great talent pool, but now its mostly internet music journalism that favors the long-winded and the lyric quoting and embarassing magazines. Especially now that file sharing makes everyone think they are musical expert, musical journalism is very, very cold.

agreed.  i loathe the peppering of lyrics in music reviews.

in fact, ive never liked music reviews; however, i like Andy Earles.  otherwise, im looking for a report card rating and flipping to the actual articles (due to a forthcoming album). 

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 05:03:20 PM »
Public Enemy

Some could argue that Flavor Flav's hot streak is finally here. After being an idiot he has become a full-tilt moron and has a third season of a TV show because of it.


If Chuck didn't have Flav around to act as his Rosencrantz/Guildenstern, then P.E. wouldn't have gotten anywhere.  P.E. would have been considered too serious.  Flavor Flav made them a lot harder to categorize, and therefore more interesting.  Yeah, he's a moron, but it was perfect for P.E. at the time.
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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 05:16:50 PM »
Cold streak: Music journalism.
Its not just about there being no Nick Kents or singular journalists or writers. There might be a great talent pool, but now its mostly internet music journalism that favors the long-winded and the lyric quoting and embarassing magazines. Especially now that file sharing makes everyone think they are musical expert, musical journalism is very, very cold.

agreed.  i loathe the peppering of lyrics in music reviews.

in fact, ive never liked music reviews; however, i like Andy Earles.  otherwise, im looking for a report card rating and flipping to the actual articles (due to a forthcoming album). 


I like long-form music journalism like "Our Band Could Be Your Life" or well-written features like you might find in Wire.

But I see album reviews as strictly utilitarian.  Give me some basic facts.  Tell me what it sounds like.  Give me some context.  Thumbs up/thumbs down.  Metacritic is great for this.

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 05:36:10 PM »
Cold streak: Music journalism.
Its not just about there being no Nick Kents or singular journalists or writers. There might be a great talent pool, but now its mostly internet music journalism that favors the long-winded and the lyric quoting and embarassing magazines. Especially now that file sharing makes everyone think they are musical expert, musical journalism is very, very cold.

agreed.  i loathe the peppering of lyrics in music reviews.

in fact, ive never liked music reviews; however, i like Andy Earles.  otherwise, im looking for a report card rating and flipping to the actual articles (due to a forthcoming album). 


I like long-form music journalism like "Our Band Could Be Your Life" or well-written features like you might find in Wire.

But I see album reviews as strictly utilitarian.  Give me some basic facts.  Tell me what it sounds like.  Give me some context.  Thumbs up/thumbs down.  Metacritic is great for this.

same here.  i'll pick up another "Our Band Could Be Your Life" before i browse an album review. 

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 05:53:21 PM »
Every single thing the Smashing Pumpkins did after Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness gish has been icy cold.

Fixed!

Get thee to Siamese Dream! Yes, a little too teenage angsty, but it saved my life last week waiting an hour to travel the last two lights to get into the Holland Tunnel. Wait, maybe that's an unfair situation to judge an album on -- anything with 45 guitar tracks per song would be appreciated at that point.

I liked SD at the time (I saw them on that tour), but when I re-listened to the album about a year ago I didn't even make it all the way through. gish, on the other hand, still sounds good to my ears.
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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2008, 06:33:16 PM »
not music but

coen brothers:
blood-simple to barton fink ++++

hudsucker to ladykillers ----

no country to ???? ++++
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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2008, 09:07:38 PM »
Every single thing the Smashing Pumpkins did after Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness gish has been icy cold.

Fixed!

Get thee to Siamese Dream! Yes, a little too teenage angsty, but it saved my life last week waiting an hour to travel the last two lights to get into the Holland Tunnel. Wait, maybe that's an unfair situation to judge an album on -- anything with 45 guitar tracks per song would be appreciated at that point.

I liked SD at the time (I saw them on that tour), but when I re-listened to the album about a year ago I didn't even make it all the way through. gish, on the other hand, still sounds good to my ears.

I still love Gish & Siamese Dream, and despite what some folks said about their live show, I saw them at Roseland on the SD tour and they freakin' tore it up. Jimmy Chamberlain = one of the tops on the skins out there. I think the problem with listening to SD now is that it's broken up by all the overplayed singles (who really wants to hear 'Today' again?). There was a time when I actually LOVED the song 'Disarm'. I kinda lost track after that, but some of the tunes from Melancholy seemed good.


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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 09:32:41 PM »
Gimmick, you're including Fargo and Big Lebowski in the Coen's cold streak?

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 10:19:03 PM »
Public Enemy

Some could argue that Flavor Flav's hot streak is finally here. After being an idiot he has become a full-tilt moron and has a third season of a TV show because of it.


If Chuck didn't have Flav around to act as his Rosencrantz/Guildenstern, then P.E. wouldn't have gotten anywhere.  P.E. would have been considered too serious.  Flavor Flav made them a lot harder to categorize, and therefore more interesting.  Yeah, he's a moron, but it was perfect for P.E. at the time.

That's a fantastic ref, Rosencrantz/Guildenstern! Also, PE is a great example for the topic.

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 11:39:40 PM »
Hot: John Cazale: Godfather, pts I-II, The Conversation, Dog Day Afternoon, The Deer Hunter. A spotless resume.
Cold: The U.S. presidency between Jackson and Lincoln.


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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2008, 11:56:14 PM »
I kept pushing myself to call in with this, but kept pulling myself back because it happened to be who I was listening to that day, so figured it couldn't ACTUALLY be a good example--it was just what I was thinking at the moment.  But here goes:

Scott Walker:

Four great albums in the 1960's (not even counting The Walker Brothers before).

Then a completely DEAD streak for 25 years.

Then a HOT streak from 1995 to today.

Even though that last hot streak is just three albums (or two, depending on if you count Pola X) over the past 12 years.  I thought that would be kinda funny to mention in itself.



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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 08:14:51 AM »
another hot streak: cheater slicks! not a bad album in the bunch. in fact, not a less-than-stellar album in the bunch!

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 11:48:08 AM »
Brian Eno from the first Roxy Music album to Remain In Light is an all time hot streak.

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 11:50:11 AM »
This topic has renewed my love of this song:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeBQJHhIj4[/youtube]

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Re: Hot Streak/Cold Streak
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 12:31:27 PM »
The Muppets are having a cold streak.

There. I said it.

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