Author Topic: Should I get a Mac?  (Read 9285 times)

Martin

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2008, 10:12:07 AM »
And, while I'm at it, I might as well ask if anyone knows anything about the general reliability of HP laptops.

I love mine!

I love mine too! FACT: I'm using it right now!

AllisonLeGnome

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2008, 10:13:14 AM »
Thanks! That might make my decision a bit easier.

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2008, 10:25:07 AM »
I'm two weeks into using mine (Mac Book Pro) after 10 years of PCs - I don't think I'll ever go back. I got used to the OS in about two days, and realized how much orderly and stable it was compared to XP. Workflow is tons easier thanks to Quicksilver. Installing and configuring apps has been a complete no-brainer. I've literally read no tips or documentation, just dove into it and hit no snags.

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2008, 10:33:57 AM »
theyve got windows for mac now, don't they?  that might make a difference for you, LeGnome. 


im all over the macbook, but its too expensive.  ive decided to go for the mac mini instead.  unfortunately, you only save by a few hundred after you purchase extras you may need (external hard drive, software, et al.)

...but a few hundred saved=a few more records!

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2008, 10:58:23 AM »
I really hate the OS X interface. Converts, did you have trouble getting used to it?


I'm wondering what you don't like about it?  Apart from cosmetic differences, pretty much all GUIs are the same (or have arbitrary differences you have to just learn), with a couple of exceptions.

The biggest exception is the handling of "windows" versus "applications." On the Mac, you run an application that creates windows.  But a window is not the same as an application, and for the most part closing a window does not close an application.

On Windows, it can be impossible to tell whether you're running two instances of one program, or a single application that has spawned two windows.  On the Mac, multiple windows belonging to the same application always belong to a single instance of the same program, and you can control the application itself, as opposed to a window the application has created, through the menubar.  This seems like a pointless complication to some Windows users, but the lack of a global way to control a program as opposed to a window has led to weird constructs like "main windows" and, even worse, the multiple document interface (where a program spawns little captive windows within itself) in order to keep things straight.  The latest Windows Excel *still* uses MDI.  Madness.

Another difference is that most Mac programs don't have the ability to maximize (you can manually make them fill the screen, of course).  The zoom button is supposed to expand the window to display its contents, but no further.  I think this is a good thing, because just maximizing a window habitually defeats the purpose of a multi-window GUI, makes direct manipulation harder (can't just drag an image from a website to the desktop, for instance), makes task switching slower, etc etc, but people like what they're used to an a lot of people see that lack of maximize as a flaw.  A better way to work distraction free is just to hide all the applications you're not using (cmd-option-h).

Also, the preferred way of operating on a Mac is through drag and drop, as opposed to constantly navigating through menus.  You can launch a file in a non-default media player like VLC by just dragging to onto the dock icon, for instance, instead of opening the program and going through File->Open, etc.  You can do it either way, but drag and drop is much faster.  It still amazes me that on XP you can't just drop a file onto a taskbar icon, though maybe Vista has fixed this.

Also expose is awesome.  And you can tell I'm on Windows right not because it's too much of a hassle to actually input foreign characters.  Can't just do option-e+e.

The biggest thing with learning a new system is that you might not care enough about computers to bother learning something new when what you already know works fine.

AllisonLeGnome

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2008, 12:03:24 PM »
theyve got windows for mac now, don't they?  that might make a difference for you, LeGnome.

That's what I've been considering doing- if I would need to get a separate copy of XP anyway (since the HP I've been looking at only comes with Vista), I could always just use that on a MacBook. It just seems a bit silly to buy one type of computer expressly to use another kind on it.

The biggest exception is the handling of "windows" versus "applications." On the Mac, you run an application that creates windows.  But a window is not the same as an application, and for the most part closing a window does not close an application.

The biggest thing with learning a new system is that you might not care enough about computers to bother learning something new when what you already know works fine.

My issue exactly. I'm not convinced that I should bother learning a different system when they're essentially the same idea in the end (and I've used both enough to be sure of that).

I'm two weeks into using mine (Mac Book Pro) after 10 years of PCs - I don't think I'll ever go back. I got used to the OS in about two days, and realized how much orderly and stable it was compared to XP. Workflow is tons easier thanks to Quicksilver. Installing and configuring apps has been a complete no-brainer. I've literally read no tips or documentation, just dove into it and hit no snags.
Thanks. I think what I'm taking away from all this is that I would be fine with either and I need to just make a decision.

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2008, 10:45:25 AM »
I recently added more RAM to my Mac. Craaaaaaaaazy easy. Just don't buy it from Apple.com. It's twice as expensive.

Anything I need to know? Or will I be able to figure this out by poking around in there?

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Re: Should I get a Mac?
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2008, 10:56:20 AM »
I recently added more RAM to my Mac. Craaaaaaaaazy easy. Just don't buy it from Apple.com. It's twice as expensive.

Anything I need to know? Or will I be able to figure this out by poking around in there?

Just never buy it from Apple.  They'll mug you.

I bought Macbook RAM from www.crucial.com and it worked great.

Also, when you buy a computer, pay attention to whether you're getting RAM in one or two chips.  ie, 1 gig in 1 chip means you have an open slot to put another 1 gig chip in.  1 gig in 2 512 chips means you have to throw away one or both chips to upgrade.