POLL: MAD MEN: Which tier?

[Joe Rogaine]

Geebus, Joan might as well have been wielding a blade at the end of the last episode. I almost got misty when she broke down in front of her husband. She's sooo lonely. BTW, was it just me or were the comments made by the creative kid they heave-ho'd borderline criminally offensive?

I wouldn't go that far.

I kind of liked that guy he added a nice balance to everybody else's self serious attitude in the office. I secretly kind of liked that Joan finally got put in her place too. I like how they are creeping the 60's attitudes more and more into the show.

[Chris L]

Geebus, Joan might as well have been wielding a blade at the end of the last episode. I almost got misty when she broke down in front of her husband. She's sooo lonely. BTW, was it just me or were the comments made by the creative kid they heave-ho'd borderline criminally offensive?

I wouldn't go that far.

I kind of liked that guy he added a nice balance to everybody else's self serious attitude in the office. I secretly kind of liked that Joan finally got put in her place too. I like how they are creeping the 60's attitudes more and more into the show.

Yeah, maybe she should get raped, like he charmingly suggested.  How about in Don's office? Boy, that would put her in her place!

I'm confused about Peggy moving that Stan guy around to different accounts.  I thought when he was introduced he had a higher title and therefore she had to take his shit, which doesn't seem to be the case now.

[CaptKarl]

I'm confused about Peggy moving that Stan guy around to different accounts.  I thought when he was introduced he had a higher title and therefore she had to take his shit, which doesn't seem to be the case now.

I think it was just that he had experience and the chops to command respect from Peggy, but no official rung up on the pecking order. The naked sesh at the hotel settled the sich with Stan.

[Joe Rogaine]

I don't think he was suggesting she actually  get raped either,  i think he was using rape as a metaphor for sex in the heat of an argument.  Which is worse though suggesting rape or wishing death on someone in Vietnam.?

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

[emma]

I don't think he was suggesting she actually  get raped either,  i think he was using rape as a metaphor for sex in the heat of an argument.  Which is worse though suggesting rape or wishing death on someone in Vietnam.?

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

...seriously?

[Joe Rogaine]

I don't think he was suggesting she actually  get raped either,  i think he was using rape as a metaphor for sex in the heat of an argument.  Which is worse though suggesting rape or wishing death on someone in Vietnam.?

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

...seriously?

Which part?

[CaptKarl]

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

You don't think Joan has shown any growth, and that she has been 2D? Just off the top of my head I can think of numerous times she has broken her "strong woman with attitude" archetype. She has been uncharacteristically kind and empathetic with almost every single major player at SCDP at one point or another, but she also been quite the opposite of strong with episodes of spite and cattiness. IMO, only Don Draper has been a more dynamic character.

[nec13]

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

You don't think Joan has shown any growth, and that she has been 2D? Just off the top of my head I can think of numerous times she has broken her "strong woman with attitude" archetype. She has been uncharacteristically kind and empathetic with almost every single major player at SCDP at one point or another, but she also been quite the opposite of strong with episodes of spite and cattiness. IMO, only Don Draper has been a more dynamic character.

Excellent post, CaptKarl. I wholeheartedly agree.

[Joe Rogaine]

Joan is about the only character who hasn't shown any dynamic or growth since the beginning of the show.  We get it shes a strong woman with an attitude, show us another side of her.

You don't think Joan has shown any growth, and that she has been 2D? Just off the top of my head I can think of numerous times she has broken her "strong woman with attitude" archetype. She has been uncharacteristically kind and empathetic with almost every single major player at SCDP at one point or another, but she also been quite the opposite of strong with episodes of spite and cattiness. IMO, only Don Draper has been a more dynamic character.

Which times were you thinking of i can't remember any? Maybe i just don't like her smugness. More dynamic than Peggy though?

[Joe Rogaine]

I couldn't tell if the latest episode was really bad or not.

Was it?

I think it was.

But maybe it wasn't?

Allow me to clarify. Voiceover=terrible, Don=weirdly floppy-looking whenever they tell him to be anything other than stern, Peggy/Joan awesomeness=awesome.

I kind of liked the voice over since apparently Don is starting to get a little introspective with his family and alcoholism  it seemed like the right time to introduce it, i guess as long as they keep it to diary entries maybe. I thought it was pretty inventive to just start a voice over not only mid series but mid season of a show too.

[CaptKarl]

Did anyone feel like they missed an episode between last week and last night. You think Don is slow-playing the Dr., Joan's husband is just going to Basic, and then boom this week starts off with rather significant developments over and settled. Was it just my reptilian brain or did the first act of last night's episode have a Sapphic theme?

[Joe Rogaine]

Did anyone feel like they missed an episode between last week and last night. You think Don is slow-playing the Dr., Joan's husband is just going to Basic, and then boom this week starts off with rather significant developments over and settled. Was it just my reptilian brain or did the first act of last night's episode have a Sapphic theme?

Also didn't they already do an episode where one of the kids was stuck at the office?


I didn't really get how some dudes notebook manifesto was going to get Peggy fired either.

[Mark in Helsinki]

Poor Mrs. Blankenship.

Hardly saw that one coming... This is one of the funniest and most serious seasons yet.

[B_Buster]

Just caught up. So, is Mad Men a broad comedy in the tradition of Night Court now? I can't figure it out.

[thom]

Just caught up. So, is Mad Men a broad comedy in the tradition of Night Court now? I can't figure it out.

It's the funniest show on TV right now, if that's what you mean.