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« Reply #1215 on: January 21, 2010, 01:01:19 PM »
Someone said this somewhere, and I largely agree: career politicians are one of the major cancers on our political system. Instead of viewing politics as a public service, people try to make a career out of it. So, instead of voting how they actually feel on any given issue, a career politician votes solely to ensure their own job security. A lot of potential progress gets thrown out the window in this way.

I guess it boils down to the trifecta of Career Politicians/Campaign Finance/Lobbyists. An opposition completely unwilling to engage in the lawmaking process and our piss-poor media just exacerbate things.
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« Reply #1216 on: January 21, 2010, 01:06:17 PM »
Someone said this somewhere, and I largely agree: career politicians are one of the major cancers on our political system. Instead of viewing politics as a public service, people try to make a career out of it. So, instead of voting how they actually feel on any given issue, a career politician votes solely to ensure their own job security. A lot of potential progress gets thrown out the window in this way.

I guess it boils down to the trifecta of Career Politicians/Campaign Finance/Lobbyists. An opposition completely unwilling to engage in the lawmaking process and our piss-poor media just exacerbate things.

That's why I says vote crackpot!
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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1217 on: January 21, 2010, 01:34:26 PM »
Someone said this somewhere, and I largely agree: career politicians are one of the major cancers on our political system. Instead of viewing politics as a public service, people try to make a career out of it. So, instead of voting how they actually feel on any given issue, a career politician votes solely to ensure their own job security. A lot of potential progress gets thrown out the window in this way.

Just to play devil's advocate here, what's the alternative tough - "amateur" politicians? Politicians that have other careers or sources of income outside of politics? Even if the politician's career isn't politics per se, wouldn't they be just as tempted to vote for their own job security on issues affecting whatever their other career is anyway? It seems like no matter what, in a representative democracy there's always going to be the risk of representatives voting for their own interests vs those of their constituents.

I don't know what the real answer is, here. I'm just thinking as I'm typing.
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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1218 on: January 21, 2010, 02:47:30 PM »
I guess the real solution would be to undo millions of years of human evolution and learn to think within the context of the "greater good".

Or maybe all the politicians should just be more like Bulworth.
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« Reply #1220 on: January 21, 2010, 04:08:10 PM »
What a dynamic political system we have.  President Scott Brown was recalled in only two days and replaced with President Exxon-Mobil.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1221 on: January 21, 2010, 06:45:37 PM »
The Supreme Court just made me vomit in my lap: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/political-fallout-from-the-supreme-court-ruling/?hp

Couple that with the fact the corporations are only allowed to make expenditures that are in their financial interest and a lack of meaningful shareholder control (via anti-shareholder biases in places like Delaware and institutional separation via public pension funds), and the "owners" of the companies whose free speech rights are supposedly protected at the end of the day have no knowledge or control over whether the corporation is acting in their overall interest, and little ability to change the corporation's tune even if they found out that it was.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1222 on: January 21, 2010, 09:50:17 PM »
Mo' money, mo' free speech.

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« Reply #1223 on: January 21, 2010, 10:46:44 PM »
The Supreme Court just made me vomit in my lap: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/political-fallout-from-the-supreme-court-ruling/?hp

Couple that with the fact the corporations are only allowed to make expenditures that are in their financial interest and a lack of meaningful shareholder control (via anti-shareholder biases in places like Delaware and institutional separation via public pension funds), and the "owners" of the companies whose free speech rights are supposedly protected at the end of the day have no knowledge or control over whether the corporation is acting in their overall interest, and little ability to change the corporation's tune even if they found out that it was.

The Republicans on the court even went out of their way to say there's no disclosure. So if a foreign country set up a front company in America they could funnel a billion dollars into the Republican party and no one could ever know. I'm sure that will happen now.

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« Reply #1226 on: January 21, 2010, 11:30:42 PM »
I propose everyone just mark their preference between "milk chocolate" and "dark chocolate". DARK CHOCOLATE IN 2010! We're better for your health!

Unfair fight.  Milk chocolate would nearly always win, and my candidate, as usual, would almost always lose. 

Milk chocolate proponents crumble when you ask them to imagine milk chocolate for chips in chocolate chip cookies.

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« Reply #1227 on: January 22, 2010, 08:19:02 AM »
I'm voting for semisweet, the Nader of chocolate.

I read that the disclosure thing was just Clarence Thomas, that even the other conservatives agreed to leave that in.  This sucks, though.
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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1228 on: January 22, 2010, 10:24:25 AM »
Air America just folded.


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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1229 on: January 22, 2010, 10:37:57 AM »
So...

Massachusetts, Conan/Leno, the Supreme Court thing, Air America.

What's next?