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Dan B

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Beth

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« Reply #826 on: October 25, 2008, 08:18:05 PM »




THIS CAN NOT BE REAL.

They'd better take this on tour, or I will be so sad.

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« Reply #827 on: October 25, 2008, 08:32:11 PM »
Eddie Izzard should do the cross dressing more

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« Reply #828 on: October 26, 2008, 01:34:19 AM »
As should Dennis Kucinich.
Oh, good heavens. I didn’t realize. I send my condolences out to the rest of the O’Connor family.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #829 on: October 26, 2008, 01:35:54 AM »
I want to see them to address the crowd in matching silver platforms soooooooo badly.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #830 on: October 26, 2008, 01:43:36 AM »
As should Dennis Kucinich.

no, he should stay home and send the wife


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« Reply #831 on: October 26, 2008, 07:31:19 AM »




If they swung by Machias, I'd actually go. 

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« Reply #832 on: October 26, 2008, 09:30:35 AM »
I'm just wondering if any of you have spoken with Obama detractors who continually seek to make a connection between his tax policies and class warfare/communism. Living in Hudson County -- where the Obama vote is more than safe -- I'm troubled by the number of middle-class white working people I have spoken to in the last few weeks who voice concerns about Obama "giving money to the unemployed" and using "our money" to "help people on welfare." While these statements don't add up factually, I fear they are indicators of something awful lurking beneath an impending Obama election.

Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I feel this may be precipitating a much larger, much dirtier clash between ignorant groups of all walks of life in American metropolitan cities -- especially the white people who can't stand the sight of a black man in power. Any thoughts on this subject? Any experience speaking to those scared of a sound bottom-up economic construct?


I almost forgot to mention:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/376291

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« Reply #833 on: October 26, 2008, 01:53:18 PM »
It was nice of (Pre-Op Tranny) John Oliver to plug S&W this week.

when was that?
I was the first guy in hardcore to whip people with his belt.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #834 on: October 26, 2008, 01:58:26 PM »
I'm just wondering if any of you have spoken with Obama detractors who continually seek to make a connection between his tax policies and class warfare/communism. Living in Hudson County -- where the Obama vote is more than safe -- I'm troubled by the number of middle-class white working people I have spoken to in the last few weeks who voice concerns about Obama "giving money to the unemployed" and using "our money" to "help people on welfare." While these statements don't add up factually, I fear they are indicators of something awful lurking beneath an impending Obama election.

Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I feel this may be precipitating a much larger, much dirtier clash between ignorant groups of all walks of life in American metropolitan cities -- especially the white people who can't stand the sight of a black man in power. Any thoughts on this subject? Any experience speaking to those scared of a sound bottom-up economic construct?


I almost forgot to mention:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/376291


As far as I can tell, being a republican in my life time has always equated with being afraid of black people and all the rhetoric about values and supply-side economics are just thinly veiled testaments to that. Never for a second did I think anyone really believed any of that horseshit. Are you saying you are worried about civil unrest though as it relates to the political climate now? I always get the feeling people talk a lot of shit but they aint really gonna do squat, right or left. Although I for sure am going to Canada if the repugs steal another one.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #835 on: October 26, 2008, 02:17:31 PM »
Once Obama is elected, things will settle down. He really isn't anywhere close to that kind of politician. If it makes you feel better, I talked to a friend of my mother's the other day, and she told me in a whisper that she was voting for Obama. She didn't want to tell her husband, and she told me not to tell my mom, but she felt like Obama would be a good leader. What's funny is, it had nothing to do with race. It's about him being a "liberal".

That's been happening for awhile now, long before Obama. Conservatives have been spoonfed that socialism bullshit for about 15 years now, and a lot of them have forgotten that it is only hyperbole. Even that psycho in Pittsburgh that deliberately created a race-baiting scenario... that had less to do with race than with trying to stop "liberals".

I'm not worried personally, though. I dunno if you remember, but a big part of that race speech after Rev. Wright was acknowledging that perhaps some white people had a legitimate reason to be disgruntled over reverse discrimination.That was one of the first things that truly impressed me about Obama, because it was a level of honesty that we don't typically get from our politicians. In a lot of ways, this "liberal" thing is exactly the same type of prejudice. We'll get past it.

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« Reply #837 on: October 26, 2008, 02:29:32 PM »
Even that psycho in Pittsburgh that deliberately created a race-baiting scenario... that had less to do with race than with trying to stop "liberals".


oh please

let's just ignore the entirety of American history.

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« Reply #838 on: October 26, 2008, 02:53:22 PM »
You know what I'd love to see? Trembling Eagle and Raad_Man in a Lincoln-Douglas style debate/Mixed Martial Arts bout set in The Octagon.  Winner: everyone.

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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #839 on: October 26, 2008, 03:14:04 PM »

As far as I can tell, being a republican in my life time has always equated with being afraid of black people and all the rhetoric about values and supply-side economics are just thinly veiled testaments to that. Never for a second did I think anyone really believed any of that horseshit.

I know a gay Republican who is kind of the opposite of scared of big black guys.  And I'm pretty sure he is the kind of guy who read Hayek before going to sleep.  People are complicated.

But I'd say that the Republican establishment and media just about fits that description nowadays.  The National Review's "Corner" blog has replaced the PUMA PAC blog as my daily go-to for sour grapes/panicked ramblings.  Their race-baiting reaction to the Ashley Todd story confirms this.  Either these nutters are going to be in charge of the Republican party after Obama wins or they are going to get kicked out.  Watching them tear themselves apart is going to be very entertaining.

Meanwhile, back in reality, McCain is on record as saying things that are just as "socialist" as Obama ever said. See
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122454768040352279.html?mod=googlenews_wsj . There's also a clip somewhere of McCain saying that it's only fair for people who make more money to pay more in taxes.  Damn Marxist.  

By the way, something like 66% of professional economists are supporting Obama (http://econ4obama.blogspot.com/).  Republicans like to pretend like economics forces you to accept their positions which is, of course, bullshit.  I don't have the figures at hand but most financial professionals and silicon valley entrepreneurs support Obama as well.  Also, about 30 states are net receivers of federal spending, with the rest net payers of federal taxes.  This study is old -- http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/hweisberg/conference/Lacy-OSUConf.PDF -- but it discusses how the majority of states that actually pay taxes voted for Gore, while the majority of states that suck on the federal teat voted for Bush.  It's the productive parts of the country that support the US economy that tend to be the most "socialist."  Weird.  (It's not really a fair conclusion, because generally cities and suburbs pay taxes which go to support rural areas, and the only difference between red states and blue states tends to be how urban they are-- parts of New Jersey are redder than Alabama and parts of Mississippi are as blue as Berkeley.  But it's a fun counter to Republicans who start to go on about "real America.")