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[Regular Joe]

I do eat vegetables in addition to meat, so I can see how there are good options out there that won't make me want to take hunks out of a cow with my bare mouth, but I still kind of fear losing meat entirely. I think cutting down instead of cutting out is a better plan for me right now, with increased respect for rabbit food beyond it being the afterthought of a porkchop.

I don't drink alcohol more than once a month tops, so that certainly isn't a problem. I also don't think I like what you are trying to imply about me with that advice. As much as I like the sound of fake meat products to help get me through, I am trying not to use crutches or anything but common sense to get this done. I've always favored flavor over content, texture over nutrients, so I'm trying to grow up and get over that. If I kept eating corn dogs all day, even if made from soy, I feel that might defeat the purpose. Better to just have a little chicken breast and call it a day. Still, the roadwork is being laid towards eating in a way I can morally justify. I know that deep down under all these lamb gyros there is a part of me so fundamentally horrified by eating living beings that I cannot keep up this dance of ignorance and deliciousness forever. Your input is definitely helpful towards that end!

So, now that I've derailed this thread and the thought is in my head, I want to ask you all, are other FOT's besides me and BaronVonTito trying to lose weight right now? If so, we should do a FOT fit club! Seeing as this is an internet place with mostly Americans in it, you cannot possibly tell me I'm the only one here who looks upon skinny jeans with two completely different senses of disgust. We could motivate each other and make competitions out of it! Imagination is the limit. I think I brought this up a while ago, but not seriously. I'm serious now. If people really were into this, I'd be happy to learn how to set some kind of program up, or just help coordinate it with others who would be more apt at it.

Actually, I think I'll set up a thread for just that purpose right now! If anyone is interested, reply there!

lets hear it for making positive changes and creating a better self image!

[Regular Joe]

*Fine. 5' 11".

You are so short! I bet you aren't a real man, even!

You have no idea how high I can fly.

[Jake from Memphis]

I live in Memphis....that would be difficult, though apparently not impossible for many people here.  I will trade barbecue recipes on the general thread if anyone is interested.  Summer is coming.

[dave from knoxville]

If you want to lose weight, may I recommend not drinking alcohol.  This is hateful advice to some people.  But it works!  And instead of doing exercise per se, see if you can bike or walk to work.  That is the end of my weight loss advice.

People tend to eat like 4 kinds of meat.  There's a lot more variety viarity in the plant kingdom, flavor-wise.  Also, junk food meat has been very well replicated by Science.  I enjoy Quorn nuggets, veggie corn dogs, and various veggie burgers.  I assume if you're motivated to quit eating meat, you will.  But if you don't *really* want to, you won't.  It's not like smoking or anything where you'll get obsessed.  Just eat a slice of pizza and some trail mix or other delicious vegetarian treats.  Once you stop being hungry, cravings go away.  Most cravings are for fat or salt or something, anyway.

Dear Lord have pity on us obese teetotalers!

[Jersey John]

Is Candy vegetarian? (praying 2 god)

[iAmBaronVonTito]

Is Candy vegetarian? (praying 2 god)

depends...is this Candy?




(now you can pray she gives you the answer- good luck!)

[hugman]

eating hyper processed soy meat substitutes with a hundred ingredients is NOT more healthy than eating meat, especially if your meat is all natural.

[yesno]

eating hyper processed soy meat substitutes with a hundred ingredients is NOT more healthy than eating meat, especially if your meat is all natural.

I never said fake junk food meat was healthy. But it is nice to eat American-seeming food now and again. Health has little to do with my not eating meat.  Though I'd bet I eat a more healthy diet than most people without giving it much thought.

Quitting eating meat for health doesn't make much sense, unless every time meat comes near you you gorge on handburgers or something, and only total avoidance works.  I also doubt you can lose weight by quitting eating meat, or by exercising for an hour a day.  (I think you can become more fit and healthy by exercising, just that healthy doesn't mean skinny.)

[Trembling Eagle]

Health wise I see nothing wrong with lean cuts of meat. In fact, for optimal health, you probably need SOME source of animal protein (for a full amino acid profile....yadda yadda). I'm pretty much a egg, chicken, fish guy as it is now.

Philosophically though it's getting harder and harder to justify consuming a lot of red meat because of the political and environmental impact of factory farming. Although it's not overwhelming, in my mind, there is also a nagging existential quandary on the matter (taking life, animal rights).


I like day dreaming about the future and I suspect that our current eating habits are unsustainable for our species and the planet. I'm guessing within the next few hundred years we'll find away to grow meat on the vine. I'm just blue skying here, but scientists can already splice animal genes into plants so maybe one day my dream of walking thru an orchard and picking a basket of steaks will be a reality.

[chrisfoll577]

I like day dreaming about the future and I suspect that our current eating habits are unsustainable for our species and the planet. I'm guessing within the next few hundred years we'll find away to grow meat on the vine. I'm just blue skying here, but scientists can already splice animal genes into plants so maybe one day my dream of walking thru an orchard and picking a basket of steaks will be a reality.

Your vision of the future horrifies me more than an environmental apocalypse brought on by factory farming ever could.

[Bryan]

I like day dreaming about the future and I suspect that our current eating habits are unsustainable for our species and the planet. I'm guessing within the next few hundred years we'll find away to grow meat on the vine. I'm just blue skying here, but scientists can already splice animal genes into plants so maybe one day my dream of walking thru an orchard and picking a basket of steaks will be a reality.

Your vision of the future horrifies me more than an environmental apocalypse brought on by factory farming ever could.

Seriously. Just eat some beans, man!

[erika]

vegetarian?

I'm not trying to sound antagonistic, I'm just curious.

Was there something that made you think we were all veggies?

I likes my meats.

[Sarah]

He missed the Vegan Wars of 2007.

[yesno]

I kind of agree with TE on the sweet things that can be done with Science. Unfortunately most lab meat to date has been gross, since being in a living animal gives meat certain qualities. But I do see potential for interesting pets: mini bears, snake/cat hybrids, etc.

[iAmBaronVonTito]

(...just that healthy doesn't mean skinny.)

thats the truth.  i have a friend who is twice my height and half my weight* but can barely make it up a flight of stairs without being winded.  very curious issue until i walked into her house and found PILES of whataburger and mcdonald's bags on her kitchen counter.





*i like overexaggerating...but not by much.