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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2011, 11:11:18 AM »
I saw another story about New Port Richey today, but I forgot what it was.  Anything else going on down there, Big F?
Yep.

was it this?

New Port Richey pawn shop fights for 'Pawn Star' name

You nailed it.

I feel certain there's couple of other things as well.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2011, 10:29:20 PM »

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2011, 06:32:22 AM »
From WrestlingNewsWorld.com:

On November 6, 2010, six pro wrestlers participated in "The Ultimate Ironman Match" in an attempt to break the Guinness World Record for the longest pro wrestling match. On July 12, 2011, Guinness announced that "Lightning" Tim Lutz, Mark Easterday (known as Sid Fabulous), Michael White (The DarkAngel), Logan Jones (Logan Cross), Brandon Overholser (American Kickboxer II), and Tom Crone (DJ Tom Sharp) had officially broken the previous record.

The men wrestled for twelve consecutive hours, beating the previous record of 11 and a half hours. The wrestlers rotated in and out of the ring throughout the match, but at least two men remained in the ring at all times. The previous record was set in the early 1900s. While many wrestling groups across the US have claimed to beat it, this is the only record verified by Guinness. White, Jones, and Overholser are from the Dayton area while Lutz and Crone are from the Hamilton area, and Easterday is from the Columbus area. They wrestled under the SWI promotion which is based out of Sidney, Ohio and run by Scotty Wright. SWI is affiliated with the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA).
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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2011, 11:15:36 PM »
Skipped Breaking Bad premiere to drop 50 bucks on pro wrestling AND I AM UNREPENTANTLY GLAD THAT I DID.

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« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2011, 11:26:19 PM »
Skipped Breaking Bad premiere to drop 50 bucks on pro wrestling AND I AM UNREPENTANTLY GLAD THAT I DID.

Glad somebody had the good sense I lacked. Just reading that Daniel Bryan won the MitB match was enough to make me wish I ordered it. Then again I really don't have $50 to spend on wrestling right now  so it wasn't as bad a move as I make it out to be.

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2011, 12:33:47 AM »
SPOILERS!

I actually went to a bar and watched this with a friend. I haven't even contemplated doing that in maybe a decade, and I'm still a pretty big fan, obviously.

This PPV was just amazing. Every match but the woman's match was good on some level. The MITB matches are pretty full proof -- hang a belt from the cieling and let these guys go nuts. I wanted Wade Barrett to win the Smackdown one since he's such a great smug heel. But Daniel Bryant winning is awesome -- and Sin Cara nearly being killed was great, too. The Raw MITB was just absolute chaos and felt very WCW back when they had all those cruiserweights. Great stuff. Alberto winning was fantastic.

What else can be said about the main event? It had a bar full of jaded wrestling fans going nuts. That was seriously one of the best matches ever. It was so well organized, with CM Punk being the one who had to make the comeback. Cena kind of was heel-ish a bit during the match (my friend said he was wrestling like how the Yankees play baseball) but then when he decided he couldn't win without honor...

The end was just nuts.

The end just felt so triumphant. And it sets up an awesome story -- the punk rock individualist champion vs. the evil boss and his hired minions. It's pretty much Austin/McMahon Redux but so what? CM Punk's so frigging awesome.

I really can't believe the WWE Champion is some hardcore dude who x's up before matches. STREET BY STREET!
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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #126 on: July 18, 2011, 12:54:27 AM »
If anyone wants a link for the PPV, send a PM.

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« Reply #127 on: July 18, 2011, 03:13:56 AM »
That was great.

Both MITB matches were spectacular, the Evan Bourne moonsault in particular. The only thing missing were spiders on the ladder.

Christian/Orton match was brutal. In a good way.

Loved the frenzied crowd, the "If Cena wins we riot" signs, and the juggalos in the crowd. Tomorrow night's Raw should be worth watching to say the least.

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2011, 09:27:56 AM »
I'm shocked they went with a lot of good, story/character decisions to finish up the matches. The Orton/Christian stuff was great, but John Cena doing the right thing even if it lead to his downfall was amazing.

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2011, 10:20:07 AM »
The Christian/Orton match was really good and has been passed by the wayside since Cena/Punk was probably one of the five best matches in WWE history. I loved the psychology behind it -- Christian knew he couldn't beat Orton the right way, so in true heel fashion he got under Orton's skin. And since Orton's a psychopath, he lost his mind and the belt. But then he got absolutely brutal revenge via the only announcer table to never shatter on impact.

SPOILERS FROM RAW

Last night's Raw, I thought, was really good. I loved that they kept Punk off of TV. The angle will only work if they give Punk a reason to come back. There's going to be a huge groundswell for his eventual return which will culminate with a pop not seen since the Austin/Rocky era.

Last night's card was super wrestling based, which was a major change (and something smarks have been wanting for years, showing another signal the company may be changing styles). The only non-matches were Vince's two segments (both required for the major plot points) and one from Kofi and one from Alberto Del Rio, who obviously needs to get heel heat since he's going to be a major foil for Punk/Cena since he has the briefcase.

I thought Rey vs. R-Truth was really great. R-Truth has unfortunately been lost in the shuffle since he was a really good act before Punk broke free. But he's not a transcendent character, so he has to stay down a tier from the main events for now. I hated R-Truth (not just his dumb rap persona, but also in the ring) but he's really getting his stuff together. Rey's also an all-time great performer and can hold together a match against anyone.

I loved they kept Rey vs. Miz for next week. That's a great hook -- it will be the main event next week (most likely) so you keep the interest for that going. I think Miz has a great chance to also break out as a face -- the more hardcore fans are already cheering for him, he's a great promo guy, and if he ends up doing his own twist on a CM Punk rant, there could be some magic.

As far as HHH being the new man in charge -- I like it. I think Vince might be the best heel of all-time (still insanely over after a decade) but the guy's in his 60's and can't take bumps solely because of his age. HHH is really over and has the kayfabe stature to handle the power broker role. He's also kind of come full circle from his original Hunter pompous blueblood snob character as the corporate overlord. Vince really pulled off being fired -- it had wrestling cheese ("I'm sorry, Pops) but his tears really put the moment over. It was a great send-off to one of the best characters ever. (And hopefully stays a send-off.)

I hope they'll go into a "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" direction with a power-mad, heel HHH pulling the puppet strings against Punk and everyone else who crosses his path. And Punk already called him a doofus (one of the best insults ever) and said the company would be in even worse shape when he took over.

There is, of course, the eternal worry that HHH will be more invested in his own status behind-the-scenes. He has a bad habit of burying dudes. Vince was never afraid of "showing ass" (parlance for making a fool of himself, even going so far as to piss himself) which made the dynamic work. Will HHH embarrass himself like that, since he never has before?

On the other hand, he has put over plenty of guys who needed to get over (Benoit, Jericho, the Rock, Austin, Foley, Cena). And they have magic with Punk right now, so...

It's a great time to be a fan. It's really rare you get to see a guy like Punk get to where he's now at, especially in a truly unique angle. And it's also great since he feels like a friend -- me and my friends had two primary loves: wrestling and punk rock. I love watching this all unfold.
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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2011, 06:01:34 PM »


I was at the PPV Sunday. It was something else. We got in around 6 or so to the arena and they aired a promo for the Wrestlemania dvd. The second Cena's face popped up in that package, the crowd went berzerk and started booing. It was a good start to the night.

I think the MITB PPV has locked me in to watching at least Raw for the foreseeable future. Fantastic event from start to finish.

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« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2011, 07:59:34 PM »

 Fantastic event from start to finish.
So this stuff is like  Shakespeare?
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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2011, 08:28:30 PM »

 Fantastic event from start to finish.
So this stuff is like  Shakespeare?

There are a number of similarities I guess(?)

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #133 on: July 19, 2011, 08:45:13 PM »
SPOILERS FROM RAW

Last night's Raw, I thought, was really good. I loved that they kept Punk off of TV. The angle will only work if they give Punk a reason to come back. There's going to be a huge groundswell for his eventual return which will culminate with a pop not seen since the Austin/Rocky era.

Last night's card was super wrestling based, which was a major change (and something smarks have been wanting for years, showing another signal the company may be changing styles). The only non-matches were Vince's two segments (both required for the major plot points) and one from Kofi and one from Alberto Del Rio, who obviously needs to get heel heat since he's going to be a major foil for Punk/Cena since he has the briefcase.

I thought Rey vs. R-Truth was really great. R-Truth has unfortunately been lost in the shuffle since he was a really good act before Punk broke free. But he's not a transcendent character, so he has to stay down a tier from the main events for now. I hated R-Truth (not just his dumb rap persona, but also in the ring) but he's really getting his stuff together. Rey's also an all-time great performer and can hold together a match against anyone.

I loved they kept Rey vs. Miz for next week. That's a great hook -- it will be the main event next week (most likely) so you keep the interest for that going. I think Miz has a great chance to also break out as a face -- the more hardcore fans are already cheering for him, he's a great promo guy, and if he ends up doing his own twist on a CM Punk rant, there could be some magic.

As far as HHH being the new man in charge -- I like it. I think Vince might be the best heel of all-time (still insanely over after a decade) but the guy's in his 60's and can't take bumps solely because of his age. HHH is really over and has the kayfabe stature to handle the power broker role. He's also kind of come full circle from his original Hunter pompous blueblood snob character as the corporate overlord. Vince really pulled off being fired -- it had wrestling cheese ("I'm sorry, Pops) but his tears really put the moment over. It was a great send-off to one of the best characters ever. (And hopefully stays a send-off.)

I hope they'll go into a "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" direction with a power-mad, heel HHH pulling the puppet strings against Punk and everyone else who crosses his path. And Punk already called him a doofus (one of the best insults ever) and said the company would be in even worse shape when he took over.

There is, of course, the eternal worry that HHH will be more invested in his own status behind-the-scenes. He has a bad habit of burying dudes. Vince was never afraid of "showing ass" (parlance for making a fool of himself, even going so far as to piss himself) which made the dynamic work. Will HHH embarrass himself like that, since he never has before?

On the other hand, he has put over plenty of guys who needed to get over (Benoit, Jericho, the Rock, Austin, Foley, Cena). And they have magic with Punk right now, so...

It's a great time to be a fan. It's really rare you get to see a guy like Punk get to where he's now at, especially in a truly unique angle. And it's also great since he feels like a friend -- me and my friends had two primary loves: wrestling and punk rock. I love watching this all unfold.

I definitely got "Miz is turning face" vibes from both the PPV (thanks for the link, Hardweek) where he came back limping  and Rey got booed for stopping him from winning and especially at RAW where he won 2 matches  clean with only one leg.

I've read some grumbling from people expecting Punk to be at RAW last night, but to me that would have killed the angle dead. Punk did exactly what he said he was going to do and now the fans are waiting to see what his next move will be. People seem to forget this is a storyline and we're in the early chapters. I do hope they find away to keep him present in the storylines, but he doesn't need to actually show up for a couple months at least. If they can hold off the HHH-CM Punk match until Mania that'd be fantastic.

You know they're on a roll when I'm even kind of digging Cena. The earnest "guy who does the right thing no matter what" character suits him and I especially like it when he doesn't even try to be funny because he just can't pull it off.

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Re: The Wrestling Thread
« Reply #134 on: July 20, 2011, 11:08:00 AM »
Don't read the rest of this post if you don't want an eye-full of spoilers.


























I guess on Smackdown, Daniel Bryant Danielson announced that he would officially be cashing in his MITB briefcase at Wrestlemania. If this pans out, could we be in for a Punk/DB match at Wrestlemania? It would be a wrestling classic.