Author Topic: Paul Stanley for Foldgers  (Read 3312 times)

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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 09:46:28 AM »
I said we gonna get this place... we gonna get this place... I said we gonna get this place... HOTTA THAN HELL!

Commercial is down, unfortunately. I've heard the audio before but haven't seen the video.

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMa1yH5QCxk


Weirder and more upsetting than I thought. You want him to be a relatively normal guy behind the persona (since Gene is not... and Peter is not... and Ace is not) but he seems to need so much attention that it's harder to enjoy his insanity as much as the other three.

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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 12:21:07 PM »
I don't know, he's not playing himself here, he's playing a circus magician. Which...I don't think that's a thing, right? Most circuses don't have dedicated magicians? Maybe they have a clown that does magic on top of normal clowning? But that's what he appears to be, based on what he's wearing and the move he makes at the end when he magically vanishes.

Two things about this - beyond the very idea that somebody spent money to film a coffee commercial starring Paul Stanley that takes place in a circus and was like "Yep, this will do it, this will sell basically all the coffee to all the people" - interest me in relation to its place in KISStory. First, I can definitely hear the germ of Paul's later, triumphant comeback single "LIVE TO WIN!" in this jingle. Second, this appears to have been filmed in 2000, not long after KISS released Psycho Circus, notable for being their 18th but best (per Paul and Gene at the time) album and the first studio album with all two original members Paul and Gene and their employees Ace and Peter since 1979. Now, yes, two years later isn't really "not long after", but this is KISS, the biggest band that will ever be, so people were still super into Psycho Circus two years later, and you have to think that's why an exchange happened that we can presume went down like this:

Executive 1: "Hey, you know who we should put in our major coffee ad campaign?"
Executive 2: "Paul Stanley of KISS?"
Executive 1: "Exactly. And you know what the commer-"
Executive 2: "It should be set in a circus, to remind people of their huge comeback album, Psycho Circus."
Executive 1: "Well, yes, I was going to say it should be set in a circus, but I don't think of it as a comeback album. I mean, come back from what? KISS has never gone away. They will never go away. The music and excitement of KISS will last forever."
Executive 2: "Oh, sure, I didn't mean-"
Executive 1: "And people don't need to be reminded of Psycho Circus. I doubt most people have even taken it off their record players for more than an hour since it came out two years ago."

Anyway, what if this had been the first of four Folgers ads starring KISS? Or what if this had been an excerpt from a PSYCHO CIRCUS movie? What parts would the rest of KISS had played? I figure Gene is a lock as the evil, jealous ring master who wants to possess the trapeze artist. Paul is the benevolent circus magician who wants to see the trapeze artist and her young love be happy and helps them escape from the circus. Peter plays the mute they hire to clean up the lion cage and Gene orders the lions to kill eat him during the second act. Ace does nothing.
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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 12:33:22 PM »
I was talking to someone backstage before....and he said alot of you out there like FRENCH ROAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALLLLLL RIIIIIIIGHHHHT!!!!
When you're down in the dumps and need somethin to wake you UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!!
Only a French Roast gonna do it for ya.
This next song is gonna wake you up no matter how strong you like it, the name of this song is............ DARK LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 01:39:51 PM »
What a delightful pair of posts, Wes(ley) and jesseeeeeeelseneer.

Jesse, any post on the FOTBoard that even hints at "Dark Light" is a winner by me, but making an on-point callout, well, welcome to the ranks of big-time FOT KISS Posters.

Wes, first I must thank you for linking to my favorite thread. I love all those posts in a somewhat Bob Bogle, Jr-esque fashion that's not strictly, you know, HEALTHY, but that's better than smoking, right?

You raise a number of interesting points. It feels a bit quibbling for me to say that Paul Stanley only really exists as a series of vaguely romantic characters that would only be recognizable to a 15-year old boy (the best analogue I know of for Paul's view of romance and, as he calls it "S-E-X!" is the, ahem, writing of fantasy schlockist Piers Anthony, or maybe the bawdiest side of George Lucas, come to think of it.)

So I will accept your point that he's not playing himself, per se. I _think_ that the commercial is best understood as Paul Stanley's failed audition to be a, as you point out, phantomically invented "circus magician"-turned Fabioesque Romance cover model. The strange hand movement/disappearing act in seconds 33 and 34 are my primary evidence.

Contrast this with Ace's Dunkin Donuts commercial and you will momentarily wonder "now which one was the terrible drug addict?" right before listening to Ace's voice in said commercial brings the answer right back home.


I believe Peter was set to be an extra in a toilet commercial (non-union pay: $9.50 per hour), but Gene showed up just before filming started and served him with an injunction against being Peter Criss, so the Catman slunk off dejectedly. Again.




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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 06:11:09 PM »
that's better than smoking, right?



What?
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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 12:15:42 AM »
that moment when a life-long apathy toward KISS prevents you from ever becoming a ranked big-time FOT KISS poster.  :(

hell, I even quit smoking....what's left?

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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 02:52:38 PM »
that moment when a life-long apathy toward KISS prevents you from ever becoming a ranked big-time FOT KISS poster.  :(

hell, I even quit smoking....what's left?

Yeah... there aren't many what-you'd-call *fans* of KISS in this group, but there are a lot of enthusiasts, including the non-Scharpling guy from Scharpling & Wurster, who was inundated on Facebook by friends alerting him to the availability of this commercial.
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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 05:57:55 PM »
it appears that I've incorrectly assumed that the non-Scharpling guy got his savant-like powers of musical trivia from a steady diet of "behind the music" documentaries, or perhaps, from sordid gossipy whispers at the Superchonk backstage buffet, an exchange that left many a gladhand unshaken, for fear staining white trousers with the remnants of sticky Twizlers, and hyper-hydrogenated buttered popcorn.

I was wrong all along.  he gets it from Facebook. 

how utterly disappointing.

now I know how Dorothy felt, when she peeked behind the Wizard's Curtain.

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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 10:40:19 AM »
it appears that I've incorrectly assumed that the non-Scharpling guy got his savant-like powers of musical trivia from a steady diet of "behind the music" documentaries, or perhaps, from sordid gossipy whispers at the Superchonk backstage buffet, an exchange that left many a gladhand unshaken, for fear staining white trousers with the remnants of sticky Twizlers, and hyper-hydrogenated buttered popcorn.

I was wrong all along.  he gets it from Facebook. 

how utterly disappointing.

now I know how Dorothy felt, when she peeked behind the Wizard's Curtain.


You don't need to be disappointed, Biscuit Gravy - listen to the early shows or, for heaven's sake, Rock Rot and Rule. The musical trivia has been there since the beginning of the Best Show universe... and before.

He used to work in a Franklin Street music store in Chapel Hill. That alone makes him music-trivia royalty. Though I hope he was nicer than some of the people at Schoolkids.
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Re: Paul Stanley for Foldgers
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2014, 04:56:41 PM »
coincidentally enough, having had The Best Show presented to me at around the '09's, I just started listening to the 2000 shows this weekend, while making a Summery Christmas chicken. 

I couldn't talk about the geniusness of it all, for fear of ruining my wife's wonder; wonders such as: "I wonder if that guy is real" and after assuring her that he was indeed, "I wonder why the other guy doesn't just hang up on him".

I couldn't bear to tell her that the clearly unhinged man on the phone was not only music-trivia royalty (much to A Flock of Seagulls as Rain Man was to Quantas), but a master of comedy, skilled in the fine art of running a joke, not just into the ground, but straight to China; a talent which for me, is like The Holy Grail (albeit less Dan Brown, and more Monty Python). 

I just stood there, basting our lovely bird, and staring into her horrified eyes, as the leader of the band 'Top Flight' offered to measure Tom's inseam at home.

one thing is for certain, KISS had nothing to do with this at all.