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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Forrest on April 06, 2008, 03:12:05 PM
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Since a number of us have already stated that we are going to the Bowery Ballroom show, does anyone want to meet up for sodas beforehand? It'd be a shame if I didn't get to shake any FOT hands.
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I'd be up for it
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I'm in. I think.
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Here here.
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I don't think it's too soon to use the phrase runaway success.
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I am also interested, especially since I have a difficult time rousing friends interest in going to a show until a month after it happened and they finally hear the band.
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Eric Thomas Luxry is on board. Who else wants a middle name??
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Eric Thomas Luxry is on board. Who else wants a middle name??
I don't have one. I'd like one.
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i actually kind of like mine and don't get to use it enough. hmm...
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i actually kind of like mine and don't get to use it enough. hmm...
I'm in.
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It's a party!
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I'd enjoy a soda pre-JCR.
Also I have two middle names, if someone would like to barter for one of them.
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Wait, wait, don't tell me! They're "Ugh" and "Why" - Am I right?
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So close. It's "ug" and "hwhy."
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Anyone else going to see him at Europa in Greenpoint on the 22nd?
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me!
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AWESOME! LET'S HAVE A RIVAL SODA-MEET-UP.
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i'm there!
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Anyone going to the one @ Babylon (in Ottawa) on the 16th?
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No?
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i am!
just kidding.
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AWESOME! LET'S HAVE A RIVAL SODA-MEET-UP.
How dare you? I hereby upgrade to a gourmet soda meet-up in Manhattan. We'll have none of that Pepsi garbage they drink out in Brooklyn.
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Whaaaaaah
Jay Reatard is playing tonight in Dnever. But I am going to miss it for three reasons:
(1) Sold out
(2) Am going to a fancy debate tonight at the law school (RIAA lawyers v. EFF lawyers debating suing students for file sharing-- pretty much the coolest thing ever)
(3) It's freaking Wednesday
That's the bad part of living in the provinces. Awesome bands come through sometime but only because they're passing through anyway, and play on weeknights.
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I am completely up for an ice cream soda before hand. I know a cheap bar in Little Italy we can go to. Where the ice cream is cold and the soda-jerks are surley.
C
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I am completely up for an ice cream soda before hand. I know a cheap bar in Little Italy we can go to. Where the ice cream is cold and the soda-jerks are surley.
C
Let's do it. Oh, shit. I'm gonna say it. Here it comes: What are the "deets"?
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I'm going to both shows (I'm walking distance to Europa, why wouldn't I?). I will set up "deet's" for the Europa show, if someone else wants to organize the field trip to Bowery Ballroom soda's.
If it were left up to me, we would spend both nights at the Russian Bath/Veterans Association that you can usually find me in, but this isn't about me.
C
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Would anyone be interested in going to Sticky Rice (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&q=sticky+rice&near=New+York,+NY&fb=1&view=text&latlng=40717916,-73990356,1827804904628561945) beforehand? I think it's right around the corner. Only thing is, we may need a reservation.
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Every time I see this subject heading I think Jay Reatard died and this is his R.I.P. thread.
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Every time I see this subject heading I think Jay Reatard died and this is his R.I.P. thread.
I already have a "Jay Reatard: Death Has Formed" heading ready to go in the event this happens.
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I will set up "deet's" for the Europa show...
Do It!
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Every time I see this subject heading I think Jay Reatard died and this is his R.I.P. thread.
I already have a "Jay Reatard: Death Has Formed" heading ready to go in the event this happens.
I keep reading it as "Ray Charles something numbers"
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Here's hoping that tonight we can stick to soda-drinking and having a good time, unlike the way they do it up in Canada.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50082-jay-reatard-preps-next-7-chaos-erupts-at-toronto-gig
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I almost went to this show. I'm so mad I missed out on the fun.
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Just make sure you guys don't pour beer onto effects pedals. Forrest, I'm looking at you here.
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Just make sure you guys don't pour beer onto effects pedals. Forrest, I'm looking at you here.
Beer costs too much in New York bars to waste it on such shenanigans. Also, I'd be a little less confident getting into a fight with Dr. Reatard after seeing that video.
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So do you guys still wanna meet up and drink sodas beforehand?
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Here's hoping that tonight we can stick to soda-drinking and having a good time, unlike the way they do it up in Canada.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50082-jay-reatard-preps-next-7-chaos-erupts-at-toronto-gig
I went to the show on the 16th (the night before the Toronto fiasco). For a Wednesday it was a decent crowd, but not that huge. Moshing and surfing commenced, but in a people-positive kinda way. None of the shenannigans that took place the next night.
He played well, but I got the impression Jay was in a real stinky mood that night (...or is that the way Jay usually seems live?) Either way the mood probably contributed to his reaction in Toronto.
Oh tortured artists, why do we love you so?
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Just make sure you guys don't pour beer onto effects pedals. Forrest, I'm looking at you here.
Beer costs too much in New York bars to waste it on such shenanigans. Also, I'd be a little less confident getting into a fight with Dr. Reatard after seeing that video.
No shit, I'm surprised his fist didn't turn into a blue fireball halfway through his swing.
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I now have another thing, but you kids have fun. Oh, and Gregory, it was nice meeting you at the volunteer shift last week.
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Jay Reatard and Cheap Time were in Boston last night, but I missed it (I was at Neil Handburger's gig at the Middle East). I did see him the last time he came through Boston and it was effing awesome, so if you have the chance, I say GO. It'll no doubt be twenty furious minutes of your life that you will not regret losing.
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Gregory - I will buy you a soda at Bowery. I'm the guy who kinda looks like Matthew Broderick if his head were really oblong.
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Here's hoping that tonight we can stick to soda-drinking and having a good time, unlike the way they do it up in Canada.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50082-jay-reatard-preps-next-7-chaos-erupts-at-toronto-gig
no shit. what the hell was that all about?? not to mention that bonehead promoter. anyway, if a friend visits memphis i advise them to schedule it around a jay reatard show (amongst others). its very intense at first (even on video) and almost too chaotic to handle, but it grew on me very quickly.
p.s. im still too scared/short to throw myself into that mess though.
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Wow, when I saw them at 7th St. this past fall it was pretty relaxed. 50-60 people at most- almost all of them just bobbing their heads. A little disappointing actually, but Jay Reatard was great. The Pitchfork Effect has worked it's magic I guess.
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Gregory - I will buy you a soda at Bowery. I'm the guy who kinda looks like Matthew Broderick if his head were really oblong.
I'll be the guy wearing a t-shirt with a picture of an inn that says "the Barrow House, Dorset Vermont" underneath the picture. I will most likely be flying solo tonight, so I encourage any and all FOTs to say hi.
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I'll be there tonight too - can't make it tomorrow.
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Wow, when I saw them at 7th St. this past fall it was pretty relaxed. 50-60 people at most- almost all of them just bobbing their heads. A little disappointing actually, but Jay Reatard was great. The Pitchfork Effect has worked it's magic I guess.
the last THREE shows ive been to, i hear, "yeah, it was a good show. i'd never heard __________ before tonite, but i read about them in Pitchfork."
...exaggeration exlcuded.
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Alright, as self appointed Minister Of Fun for Greenpoint this week, I declare the following schedule for Tuesday's show...
1. Drinks at Matchless around 5. Or at least, I'll be getting there at 5. Matchless is about a five minute walk from Club Europa. 557 Manhatten Ave and Driggs*. You will know me because I'll have a large UPS mustache and a balloon. No joke, a mother fucking balloon.
2. If anyone is hungry, we can eat at Krolewskie Jadlo along the way. Polish finerys for the meat-eaters, pierogies for the rest.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Chris
*Mapquest of Matchless. By McKerren park. Towell yourself off after a hard day at kickball. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=557%2Bmanhattan%2Bave.&city=brooklyn&state=ny&zipcode=11222&homesubmit=Get%2BMap
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Alright, as self appointed Minister Of Fun for Greenpoint this week, I declare the following schedule for Tuesday's show...
1. Drinks at Matchless around 5. Or at least, I'll be getting there at 5. Matchless is about a five minute walk from Club Europa. 557 Manhatten Ave and Driggs*. You will know me because I'll have a large UPS mustache and a balloon. No joke, a mother fucking balloon.
2. If anyone is hungry, we can eat at Krolewskie Jadlo along the way. Polish finerys for the meat-eaters, pierogies for the rest.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Chris
*Mapquest of Matchless. By McKerren park. Towell yourself off after a hard day at kickball. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=557%2Bmanhattan%2Bave.&city=brooklyn&state=ny&zipcode=11222&homesubmit=Get%2BMap
I wont' get out of work until 6:00 so I might not be able to make it to Matchless in time. I was thinking of grabbing a soda at the deli with the pink awning on Manhattan and Meserole (?) before the show. I highly doubt the show will start at 7:00.
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There are three openers, so I wouldn't plan on going there until 9-ish.
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I plan on going tonight. I would be happy to meet anybody else going, but I don't get off work until 6. I definitely won't be seeing any of the openers. At the Cake Shop show I made the mistake of being on time and was in such a bad mood after seeing 3 straight terrible bands that I wasn't able to fully enjoy Jay Reatard's awesomeness.
I would be willing to meet anybody around 7pm. If the Minister of Fun wants to tell me where to go, I will go.
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The Minister of fun will be at Matchless until 9-ish to 9:30-ish.
Part of the Ministers duties involve "hanging loose." You don't get to be Minister of Fun by rigorously holding to itineraries.
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The Minister of fun will be at Matchless until 9-ish to 9:30-ish.
Part of the Ministers duties involve "hanging loose." You don't get to be Minister of Fun by rigorously holding to itineraries.
Maybe I'll see you dudes at Matchless then. That's the place across from Enid's right?
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yes it is. expect me (the guy who isn't minister of fun) to be there precisely at 7:20.
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i'm not reatarding, but i may run through matchless just to pop your balloon on the way to my kickball game at mccarren park.
and i'm not really joking.
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Man, if I were going to a Jay Reatard show I'd most likely want to see at least one of the opening bands since they only play 30 minute or less sets. But, I suppose if you know the bands are terrible it's not worth it.
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EMERGENCY CAUCUS!!!!
I'm really sorry, but Matchless isn't open.
I went there, found the doors were locked and ran home to deliver this info.
Instead, I propose Enids, across the street. I hope to see you there. With balloons.
Chris
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917 796-7956 w/ questions
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Man, if I were going to a Jay Reatard show I'd most likely want to see at least one of the opening bands since they only play 30 minute or less sets. But, I suppose if you know the bands are terrible it's not worth it.
Cheap Time is on the bill. They are not terrible.
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When they were here in Mpls. I wasn't too big on the openers but they weren't terrible (well one was). But, if I'm going out for the night to a rock show I want to make it a night and not a half hour. I suppose if I were in walking distance I might have a different opinion.
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MANHATTAN SHOW WAS AWESOME.
I bet the Brooklyn show was filled with a bunch of jaded hipsters that refused to dance.
Just kidding, I love Brooklyn.
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Also, I have no idea if there were any FOTs there because I forget what all of you look like.
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Cheap Time is on the bill. They are not terrible.
You are right. They were good last night too.
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(http://matadorrecords.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=521&stc=1&d=1208893453)
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I bet the Brooklyn show was filled with a bunch of jaded hipsters that refused to dance.
There was some ass-shaking going on at the Greenpoint show. I had a blast.
It was great meeting Jed and Emily. They were really nice guys.
C
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I had a great time at the Bowery show. The highlight was when some drunken spazz came up to me and tried to put me in a headlock (he was trying to use my body as leverage to kick random people in the head, of course) and subsequently got dropped on his ass by yours truly. It was so satisfying.
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I bet the Brooklyn show was filled with a bunch of jaded hipsters that refused to dance.
There was some ass-shaking going on at the Greenpoint show. I had a blast.
It was great meeting Jed and Emily. They were really nice guys.
C
I'm a girl!
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"Guys" isn't gender neutral? My apologoes.
Jed was a great guy and Emily was a stand-up madam, who was obviously a girl.
C!
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Emily is a madam? She seems so nice!
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I don't think stand-up madams are very funny, but then again I've never seen one outside a burlesque house.
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I was at the Bowery Show. Jay was awesome and the crowd was fun.
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well anyway I went to both shows b/c my soccer game ended early enough on tuesday.
i think the sound/show at europa was better.
good times all around.
nice to meet you spoony!
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It was great to meet you Emily.
I thought the Bowery show was tonight. I have egg on my face and people are pissed that I made plans to go to this phantom show with them tonight. I am resigning my post as Minister of Fun. I cannot facilitate my duties in any capacity in this state.
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Emily is a madam? She seems so nice!
I am shocked by this revelation of prejudice, Jasong.
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Prejudice against Madams? I'm sure that many of them are "nice," but you know, they're paid to be. Don't they all really have hardened, steely hearts?
EDIT: except for Dolly Parton in The Best Little Whorehose in Texas, who has a heart of genuine gold.
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I had a great time at the Bowery show. The highlight was when some drunken spazz came up to me and tried to put me in a headlock (he was trying to use my body as leverage to kick random people in the head, of course) and subsequently got dropped on his ass by yours truly. It was so satisfying.
Were you standing, say, back-center of the mosh pit? With a few others? If so I believe I saw this incident, I was standing a few rows behind you. Like FOT in the night.
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That is exactly where I was. One of my friends said it was the highlight of the show.
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My favorite person in the crowd was the kid with the mustache and green shirt in the mosh pit. His girlfriend piggy-backing on him around the crowd while running into other people was hilarious.
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Why are we still using the term "mosh pit?" What is this, 1982?
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Why are we still using the term "mosh pit?"
As opposed to "the place where you go to get kicked in the head"?
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I went to about a dozen haadcoah shows from 1986-88 and I never heard the word "mosh" until like 1991, regarding either a metal show or Lollapalooza, I can't remember which. We called it "becoming one with the music*."
*Not really
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In Boston, 1979-1984, people I knew just talked about slamdancing. I didn't learn the terms "moshing" and "mosh pit" till later.
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ive always called it "the pit"
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I CALL IT THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE. WOOOOOOO!
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Pizza maker!
Pickin' up change!
Etc.
Seriously, though - in NJ/NYC, the term "mosh part" was in wide use (both ironically and non-ironically) for the inevitable slow-down or half time bit, at least as far back as '86. People almost completely stopped using "slam" around then.
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Yeah, but wasn't the term "mosh" played out by 1987?
Here's proof:
[youtube]9nYejkFKb9A[/youtube]
Please accept my humble apology for taking a huge steaming dump on this otherwise lovely thread.
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Please accept my humble apology for taking a huge steaming dump on this otherwise lovely thread.
Dude - we're actually talking seriously about the word "mosh" - you've got nothing to apologize for.
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I'm too old for that shit. I went to the Black Lips show and fucked up my arm for 4 months just getting pushed into the floor by some gorilla. I was like "Fuck this".
Weird thing is, most of you are too old for that shit too!
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I was too old for that shit almost a decade ago, and now I'm getting into that shit again. I think it might be an oncoming midlife crisis.
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Weird thing is, most of you are too old for that shit too!
But clearly not too rock and roll!
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I'm 27 years cool and I prefer to leave the freakouts for when I'm home alone. Moshing, if you will, just looks dated and embarrasing.
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I miss stage diving from the era prior to the security trench.
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I'm 27 years cool and I prefer to leave the freakouts for when I'm home alone. Moshing, if you will, just looks dated and embarrasing.
I'm 21, but I agree completely. I love dancing, I guess, but anything that becomes violent isn't fun.
To bring it back to the topic of the thread, here (http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/Content?oid=oid%3A42684) is what Jay Reatard recently said about the "Toronto incident":
"A lot of people read press and get this idea that the show is supposed to be this cathartic fuck-everything-up experience. Sometimes when I play a show, I just want to play my songs. There's still a lot of energy. There's just not this level of impending violence hanging over everything.
Some people decide that if I'm not freaking out enough, they're going to try to inject something into the show that makes it this negative, violent experience. I'm fed up with it. It took me forever to save up enough money during my career to get to the point where I could afford things like a nice guitar and to have some guy pay $10 and think that entitles him to throw a beer pitcher at my guitar? I'm done."
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Why are we still using the term "mosh pit?" What is this, 1982?
You're right, I should have said The Fray.
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Why are we still using the term "mosh pit?" What is this, 1982?
I need to fact check this in Rock, Rot & Rule, but I think TL is right, here: the "mosh pit" term wasn't coined until the later days of hardcore (around 1986 or '87), when New York bands like Youth Of Today, Bold, and Underdog made breakdowns a standard in their songs and the "mosh" was the slower version of slam dancing that accompanied them. I remember going to an all ages show in Newport, RI (Blue Pelican, yo) and this kid Ruscia Wiggins (RIP) had written an article titled MOSH! for a one-off fanzine (actually, that may have been the name of the -zine or newsletter... it's foggy now) to inform all the RI hardcore kids about the new dance craze that True Blue (they soon became Underdog) would be introducing at the gig (yeah, Verbal Assault played the show, too...).