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Title: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on December 13, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
hmmm....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj-KpOrbLSM[/youtube]
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on December 13, 2009, 10:18:19 AM
Suddenly I'm thinking those Avatar trailers don't look so bad.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on December 13, 2009, 10:25:32 AM
I've seen some dumb-ass trailers, but that is the dumbest-ass trailer I've ever seen.

Thank God this thing will be over soon so I can stop watching it.  Even though I have no memory whatsoever of how the last season ended.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 13, 2009, 10:27:49 AM
I hope this means that Season 6 will be modeled after the movie Magnolia.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 13, 2009, 10:45:24 AM
The creators of Lost understand that X-Files failed in the end because it did not simultaneously piss off PETA and the families of 9/11 victims.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steeley Chris on December 13, 2009, 10:55:17 AM
I'm doubting that is an ABC sanctioned promo.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Chris L on December 13, 2009, 10:58:55 AM
This is a recent "controversial" climate change ad, it has nothing to do with Lost. 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on December 13, 2009, 10:59:05 AM
I'm doubting that is an ABC sanctioned promo.

It's not. But it's just dumb enough that I can imagine it coming from the creators of this show.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on December 13, 2009, 02:52:30 PM
This is a recent "controversial" climate change ad, it has nothing to do with Lost. 

Chris is right. If you guys haven't seen Sge of Stupid, which I think this ad is affiliated with, you should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxis7Y1ikIQ

http://tinyurl.com/yglehu9
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on December 13, 2009, 06:15:08 PM
That is disturbing. I just watched The Golden Compass this morning and was loving me some polar bears and watching those two clips has sort of soured my night. I'm glad that the LOST ad is a fake, though, because I love LOST.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on December 13, 2009, 07:15:09 PM
That is disturbing. I just watched The Golden Compass this morning and was loving me some polar bears and watching those two clips has sort of soured my night. I'm glad that the LOST ad is a fake, though, because I love LOST.

I agree, glad it is fake.  Seemed cruel.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on December 13, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
That is disturbing. I just watched The Golden Compass this morning and was loving me some polar bears and watching those two clips has sort of soured my night. I'm glad that the LOST ad is a fake, though, because I love LOST.

I agree, glad it is fake.  Seemed cruel.

How are you going to handle the Tuesday night situaiton? Are you in a time zone where you can listen to Best Show and LOST? or do you have to catch up, like I'm going to have to?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on December 13, 2009, 11:33:16 PM
That is disturbing. I just watched The Golden Compass this morning and was loving me some polar bears and watching those two clips has sort of soured my night. I'm glad that the LOST ad is a fake, though, because I love LOST.

I agree, glad it is fake.  Seemed cruel.

How are you going to handle the Tuesday night situaiton? Are you in a time zone where you can listen to Best Show and LOST? or do you have to catch up, like I'm going to have to?

Get a DVR, sister!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on December 14, 2009, 09:05:11 AM
How are you going to handle the Tuesday night situaiton? Are you in a time zone where you can listen to Best Show and LOST? or do you have to catch up, like I'm going to have to?

Yeah, DVR or download.  I've been doing that the past couple of seasons- the commercial breaks bug me.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on December 14, 2009, 11:57:53 AM
I don't have a TV, so everything is watched via HULU or adultswim.com over my university's crappy internet connection.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 14, 2009, 04:03:51 PM
Unapologetic Lost fan. Don't let anyone talk you out of what you like just because they don't. This post kills cultural fascists!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on December 14, 2009, 05:52:01 PM
The Lost writers being such comic gigantic comic book nerds gives the show a big boost in the narrative arc/mythology department. Unfortunately, their dialogue belongs on the page of a comic book, unspoken.

But I'll take it. It's the best show on television and I cannot wait for February.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on December 15, 2009, 08:26:45 AM
That is disturbing. I just watched The Golden Compass this morning and was loving me some polar bears and watching those two clips has sort of soured my night. I'm glad that the LOST ad is a fake, though, because I love LOST.

I agree, glad it is fake.  Seemed cruel.

How are you going to handle the Tuesday night situaiton? Are you in a time zone where you can listen to Best Show and LOST? or do you have to catch up, like I'm going to have to?

Get a DVR, sister!

I aspire to one day. I don't have control over my cable situation right now but even if I could, I couldn't afford it. I'm just going to watch it online.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wood and iron on December 18, 2009, 02:49:34 AM
Is this the safe zone part of the FOT board where I can give my theories for season 6:

Jacob's enemy is actually the smoke monster and has been manipulating Christian Shepard and every other dead character we see roaming the island.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: David on December 18, 2009, 03:23:31 AM
Is this the safe zone part of the FOT board where I can give my theories for season 6:

Jacob's enemy is actually the smoke monster and has been manipulating Christian Shepard and every other dead character we see roaming the island.

MORE SPOILERS

I think that scene in the finale between Jacob and other dude (maybe smoke monster? or at least on the smoke monster's side?) was the beginning of a battle for the soul of humanity. It's always been a very moral show, and the choices people made on the island both good (Charlie giving up drugs and becoming a decent person, everything Sawyer) and bad (Sayid giving into his demons) matters. It's a big chess game, or backgammon if you prefer. And I think that Jacob and other guy are either deities or something mystical, and they're in a dialectic battle over man. I don't know who believes what, but I'm guessing Jacob is the optimistic one, not necessarily good. I mean, the others claim to be the good guy, but we don't know who they follow. And the Dharma Initiative- are they just interlopers or are they there with an ideological backing?

But yeah, this show has been about a moral struggle since the start. That these people can start over, can redefine who they are, or can remain the same messed up people they were before crash landing on ABC.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Gilly on December 18, 2009, 11:27:59 AM
In a show that has made no sense it makes too much sense that it's a modern day telling of Jacob and the seven lost tribes of Israel. But, it has to be, right?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on January 11, 2010, 03:20:07 PM
Hey guys, I made this. I have a lot of free time.

http://www.vimeo.com/8665664
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on January 11, 2010, 05:05:05 PM
Roger "Work Man" doesn't get enough credit, either.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 11, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
How about the tubby but lovable teacher who bit the dust in his second episode?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on January 11, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
How about the tubby but lovable teacher who bit the dust in his second episode?
Arzt. I'm thinking about making that my next project.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on January 11, 2010, 08:29:54 PM
How about the tubby but lovable teacher who bit the dust in his second episode?
Arzt. I'm thinking about making that my next project.

If you can, try to work in his star turn in Late Shift.

(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/1/3/5/4/20634531-20634532-slarge.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Regular Joe on January 12, 2010, 11:52:40 AM
I heard on the radio that LOST fans were protesting to move the presidential address, so it wont preempt their TV show. Get off the island once in a while, would ya lost fans? Dumb.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on January 12, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
I heard on the radio that LOST fans were protesting to move the presidential address, so it wont preempt their TV show. Get off the island once in a while, would ya lost fans? Dumb.
Well, dumb or not, they got their wish.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9u2Wu7d_Rw[/youtube]
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Regular Joe on January 12, 2010, 02:25:36 PM
I heard on the radio that LOST fans were protesting to move the presidential address, so it wont preempt their TV show. Get off the island once in a while, would ya lost fans? Dumb.
Well, dumb or not, they got their wish.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9u2Wu7d_Rw[/youtube]

Mark one up on the board for democracy!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 22, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
Biggest unanswered question is why is this not a Broadway musical yet? Mandy Patinkin as Locke and Alan Cumming as Ben Linus, it would be brilliant. Get crackin' Andrew Lloyd Webber!!!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on February 22, 2010, 05:00:47 PM
Biggest unanswered question is why is this not a Broadway musical yet? Mandy Patinkin as Locke and Alan Cumming as Ben Linus, it would be brilliant. Get crackin' Andrew Lloyd Webber!!!

I've already written two songs:  "What?....WALT!" and "Fair Enough, You Can Tell Me What to Do".
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on February 22, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
I hate this show so much
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wood and iron on February 22, 2010, 05:09:35 PM
Is this the safe zone part of the FOT board where I can give my theories for season 6:

Jacob's enemy is actually the smoke monster and has been manipulating Christian Shepard and every other dead character we see roaming the island.

Looks like I was right about the first part. The second part has yet to be answered.

Yes, I am the man.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 22, 2010, 06:43:04 PM
I hate this show so much

I suggest not watching it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on February 22, 2010, 08:31:28 PM
I don't anymore. I liked it a lot for the first two seasons, but the writing style kept irritating me more and more as it went on. I hated it and planned to watch the last two seasons, just for some kind of closure, then I couldn't take it anymore with 5.

I don't know what makes me hate it so much. Usually I'm pretty mellow with entertainment I don't like. If I don't like it, then it's just not my thing. Not this, though. I fucking loathe this show, or at least its writers.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: KickTheBobo on February 22, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
I watched Seasons 1-3 (I think) kind of here and there and then lost interest. I decided a week ago that I was going to barrel through the whole thing so far, and catch up with the current season.

I don't know what it is about this show, but it just doesn't captivate me. I'm just at the part where they discover the hatch in S1, and I'm not sure that I can continue on.

this is like try number 3 for me, so I can safely say that this show kinda sucks.

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 22, 2010, 10:12:48 PM
Biggest unanswered question is why is this not a Broadway musical yet? Mandy Patinkin as Locke and Alan Cumming as Ben Linus, it would be brilliant. Get crackin' Andrew Lloyd Webber!!!

I've already written two songs:  "What?....WALT!" and "Fair Enough, You Can Tell Me What to Do".

I wrote a few too. "Henry Gale: Fact or Fiction" and "The Ballad of Frogurt"
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on February 22, 2010, 10:28:24 PM
Well, I guess I'll go ahead and say that I still love this show.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on February 22, 2010, 10:48:21 PM
I still love it knowing all its faults.

That's true love, [REDACTED]!!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on February 22, 2010, 11:05:53 PM
I love this show while recognizing that Josh Holloway (James "Sawyer" Ford) is the worst actor ever in the history of Earth. 

I also recognize that if you are going to give characters names like Locke and Hume, you better cash out on that shit.  So far, no dice.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 22, 2010, 11:52:00 PM
I love this show while recognizing that Josh Holloway (James "Sawyer" Ford) is the worst actor ever in the history of Earth. 

I was thinking he was the second worst to Mathew Fox but that's just me. I heard that they are remaking Escape From NY and I really think Josh Holloway would make the best Snake Plisken... and Jack Burton... and the "Overboard" guy... and Tango or Cash (whichever one Sly wasn't).
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Gilly on February 23, 2010, 12:05:34 AM
Phillip Glass version "The Foot, The Statue?"
Rodgers and Hammerstein "Revolve O' Island"
Andrew Lloyd Weber "Jacob and Others"
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 23, 2010, 06:25:08 AM
Somehow they gotta work in Michael Jackson's "Black or White" but I bet Blanket's asking millions for the rights.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 23, 2010, 06:44:33 AM
I love this show while recognizing that Josh Holloway (James "Sawyer" Ford) is the worst actor ever in the history of Earth. 

At this point, I'm mostly amused by the fact that he only makes one face. Every time he does it, my wife or I will lean over to the other and say "Sawyer face."

I tried to find a jpeg to post here as evidence but I didn't feel like trudging through the pages and pages of shirtless pictures of the guy that came up when I tried an image search, so you'll have to take my word for it. Or watch five minutes of the show and you're bound to see it.

BTW, there's also a "Kate face." She might be worse actor than any of them, as well as the least believable badass in the history of filmed entertainment.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on February 23, 2010, 07:15:50 AM
I love this show while recognizing that Josh Holloway (James "Sawyer" Ford) is the worst actor ever in the history of Earth. 

I was thinking he was the second worst to Mathew Fox but that's just me. I heard that they are remaking Escape From NY and I really think Josh Holloway would make the best Snake Plisken... and Jack Burton... and the "Overboard" guy... and Tango or Cash (whichever one Sly wasn't).

Are you ... are ... you ...

MAKING FUN OF KURT RUSSELL?!!??@@%$$%%^&
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pregnant Pause on February 23, 2010, 09:04:41 AM
I get the impression that there a couple great writers working on Lost and a couple of not so good ones.  It seems like half the show is well thought out and intriguing and the other half is plodding and ill planned.  I do appreciate this season turning into Myst: The Series.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on February 23, 2010, 09:13:49 AM
Well, one rule of thumb is that if Jack Bender is directing, it will be a good episode.

Fun Fact: Jack Bender directed Child's Play 3.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 23, 2010, 10:00:48 AM
I love this show while recognizing that Josh Holloway (James "Sawyer" Ford) is the worst actor ever in the history of Earth. 

I was thinking he was the second worst to Mathew Fox but that's just me. I heard that they are remaking Escape From NY and I really think Josh Holloway would make the best Snake Plisken... and Jack Burton... and the "Overboard" guy... and Tango or Cash (whichever one Sly wasn't).

Are you ... are ... you ...

MAKING FUN OF KURT RUSSELL?!!??@@%$$%%^&

Have you seen Death Proof?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on February 23, 2010, 10:01:14 AM

"Sawyer face."


"Kate face."


(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:KB9jWcmQAQKC1M:http://www.lostrofl.com/media/blogs/lostrofl/jackface.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on February 23, 2010, 02:37:05 PM
Is Terry O'Quinn the only good actor on this whole damn show?

Michael Emerson loses a ton of points for his wheel-turning scene.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 23, 2010, 02:54:48 PM
Is Terry O'Quinn the only good actor on this whole damn show?

Michael Emerson loses a ton of points for his wheel-turning scene.

Jorge Garcia, dude.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on February 23, 2010, 02:58:57 PM
Harold Perrineau is a good actor, but you wouldn't know it from this show.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 23, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
Is Terry O'Quinn the only good actor on this whole damn show?

Michael Emerson loses a ton of points for his wheel-turning scene.

Jorge Garcia, dude.

He's certainly the most believable but I don't think it's because he's a great actor. It's because he's playing a dude and he is a dude.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on February 23, 2010, 04:18:00 PM
Harold Perrineau is a good actor, but you wouldn't know it from this show.


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!



Oh and the Asian dude who talks to ghosts is a good actor. But he's not given much to work with on this show.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Kid Pain on February 23, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
i thought the actors who play Des and Penny are pretty good. But if you're watching lost for the performances, I'd say you're a fuddy duddy.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on February 23, 2010, 06:35:57 PM
Oh yeah, and I like Jeremy Davies a lot, too.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on February 23, 2010, 07:29:17 PM
Has Jeremy Davies ever played a "normal" dude?
Like a chillin out havin a beer talkin to chicks dude?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 23, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
Is Terry O'Quinn the only good actor on this whole damn show?

Michael Emerson loses a ton of points for his wheel-turning scene.

Jorge Garcia, dude.

Is masterofsparks the only good jokester on this whole damn thread?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pregnant Pause on February 23, 2010, 10:50:24 PM
I'm glad we found out that Jack's son would look like Alan Ruck
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 23, 2010, 11:16:17 PM
I'm glad we found out that Jack's son would look like Alan Ruck

What?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on February 23, 2010, 11:17:51 PM

Jorge Garcia, dude.

Is masterofsparks the only good jokester on this whole damn thread?

Sorry Dave ... SOMEBODY implied that Kurt Russell wasn't a good actor, and a red mist dropped over my eyes.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 23, 2010, 11:59:24 PM

Jorge Garcia, dude.

Is masterofsparks the only good jokester on this whole damn thread?

Sorry Dave ... SOMEBODY implied that Kurt Russell wasn't a good actor, and a red mist dropped over my eyes.

For the record, SOMEBODY didn't imply that he was a bad actor, just that Sawyer is the new Kurt Russell. Maybe SOMEBODY thinks Sawyer is a great actor and the only Loster that could possibly fill Mr Russell's shoes. I'd like to make it clear that I think Mathew Fox is the worst actor on Lost by leaps and bounds. I'm on board with Michael Emerson being the best actor on the show. Sure, the wheel scene was lame but NO ONE on that show has done great in every one of their scenes.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Jouster on February 24, 2010, 03:23:48 AM
Oh and the Asian dude who talks to ghosts is a good actor. But he's not given much to work with on this show.

Yep, he's probably the best of the lot when it comes down to it.  Michael Emerson created a great character but has been coasting (especially last season).  Terry O'Quinn is solid.  I think that's it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: David on February 24, 2010, 03:42:46 AM
I get some of the hate (Michael Fox and Evangeline Lilly aren't the finest actors of their generation by any means), but I think the show gets some really solid performances from their actors. For a show that falls back on genre so much, both the writing, directing and a lot of the acting keeps the show's feet on the ground. It's not naturalistic, but it's effective. And I'm with you that Terry O'Quinn, Ken Leung and Josh Holloway are by far the best the show. And even those who aren't the most compelling on the show have had their moments: Elizabeth Mitchell in season 5, Naveen Andrews whenever he goes badass, Jorge Garcia when he goes crazy, Daniel Dae Kim and Yunjin Kim are great together and Henry Ian Cusick all the time (when he's guest staring) as Desmond.

And while I'm handing out praise, Madison the dog for her portrayal of the imperfect yet compelling soul known as Vincent. I'd give anything to take her on Inside the Animal Actor's Studio. What was her motivation? Was it a treat? Or was it something deeper... the existential treat, the validation of one's existence by one's master?

BOOM! SNL sketch. HIRE ME LORNE MICHAELS! Okay, I don't know what this post has become. I apologize for wasting your time. The fact that you spent precious, valuable life reading this makes me sad. I'm sorry. And yet, my ego compels me to click "post." Enough mucking about. Here it goes.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 24, 2010, 06:39:00 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on February 24, 2010, 07:25:01 AM

For the record, SOMEBODY didn't imply that he was a bad actor, just that Sawyer is the new Kurt Russell. Maybe SOMEBODY thinks Sawyer is a great actor and the only Loster that could possibly fill Mr Russell's shoes. I'd like to make it clear that I think Mathew Fox is the worst actor on Lost by leaps and bounds. I'm on board with Michael Emerson being the best actor on the show. Sure, the wheel scene was lame but NO ONE on that show has done great in every one of their scenes.

Okay, I"m cooling down RE Kurt Russell (no I have not watched that fudge Deathproof). I also made it through about a season and a half of Lost through the reruns on SciFi, where I could DVR 4 episodes at a time and then watch them throughout the week. That's about my limit for those jerk your chain teevee shows. Twin Peaks was another one.
 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on February 24, 2010, 07:57:16 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.

Katey Sagal's work in last week's episode was fantastic.

As for other Deadwood actors, William Sanderson was hilarious in his lone appearance as Oldham.  He delivered one of my favorite lines:

"Maybe I should've used half a dropper ... Oops."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trembling Eagle on February 24, 2010, 08:07:03 AM
I think the acting is pretty good, but then I'm a fan.

Compare it to a show like Hero's.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 24, 2010, 11:53:37 AM
The first few episodes that Juliette was on I thought she was a great actress but then I realized that she just uses a facial expression that works for any emotion.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on February 24, 2010, 01:09:43 PM
The first few episodes that Juliette was on I thought she was a great actress but then I realized that she just uses a facial expression that works for any emotion.

SHOW BETH MITCHELL THE RESPECT SHE DAMN WELL DESERVES!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on February 24, 2010, 01:14:06 PM
Last night's episode was very informative.  When I draw up my will, I will be sure to put it in an envelope and then write LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT on said envelope with a black Sharpie.  That way when my loved ones start their needle-in-a-haystack search for it, they will be sure they have found the correct document.

Still lovin' Hurley's Star Wars references.  I assume that Klausner did some punch-up on the script.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on February 24, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
Last night's episode was very informative.  When I draw up my will, I will be sure to put it in an envelope and then write LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT on said envelope with a black Sharpie.

I'm taking classes on how to be better organized, and they actually tell you to do this.  True story.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 24, 2010, 11:29:46 PM
The first few episodes that Juliette was on I thought she was a great actress but then I realized that she just uses a facial expression that works for any emotion.

SHOW BETH MITCHELL THE RESPECT SHE DAMN WELL DESERVES!

So should I watch her on V?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on February 25, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.

As for other Deadwood actors, William Sanderson was hilarious in his lone appearance as Oldham.  He delivered one of my favorite lines:

"Maybe I should've used half a dropper ... Oops."



Paula Malcomson, too. She's introduced only to get shot in the gut.


edit: Forgot. Calamity Jane was Juliet's sister.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 25, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.

As for other Deadwood actors, William Sanderson was hilarious in his lone appearance as Oldham.  He delivered one of my favorite lines:

"Maybe I should've used half a dropper ... Oops."



Paula Malcomson, too. She's introduced only to get shot in the gut.


edit: Forgot. Calamity Jane was Juliet's sister.

And Joanie Stubbs is Sawyer's baby mama.

Speaking of connecting people to other roles they've played, every time the guy playing Jacob shows up, I keep waiting (hoping?) for him to say "Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pregnant Pause on February 25, 2010, 09:03:33 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.

As for other Deadwood actors, William Sanderson was hilarious in his lone appearance as Oldham.  He delivered one of my favorite lines:

"Maybe I should've used half a dropper ... Oops."



Paula Malcomson, too. She's introduced only to get shot in the gut.


edit: Forgot. Calamity Jane was Juliet's sister.

And Joanie Stubbs is Sawyer's baby mama.

Speaking of connecting people to other roles they've played, every time the guy playing Jacob shows up, I keep waiting (hoping?) for him to say "Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski."

Silas Adams was The Man in Black/Smoke Monster before he turned into Locke.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 25, 2010, 10:01:05 AM
Some really good actors have had small roles on the show (I'm thinking specifically of Lance Reddick, John Hawkes and Titus Welliver).

I also like the guy who plays Frank Lupitas.

As for other Deadwood actors, William Sanderson was hilarious in his lone appearance as Oldham.  He delivered one of my favorite lines:

"Maybe I should've used half a dropper ... Oops."



Paula Malcomson, too. She's introduced only to get shot in the gut.


edit: Forgot. Calamity Jane was Juliet's sister.

And Joanie Stubbs is Sawyer's baby mama.

Speaking of connecting people to other roles they've played, every time the guy playing Jacob shows up, I keep waiting (hoping?) for him to say "Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski."

Silas Adams was The Man in Black/Smoke Monster before he turned into Locke.

He was mentioned above (the actor's name is Titus Welliver).
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on February 25, 2010, 11:34:34 AM
Last night's episode was very informative.  When I draw up my will, I will be sure to put it in an envelope and then write LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT on said envelope with a black Sharpie.

I'm taking classes on how to be better organized, and they actually tell you to do this.  True story.

I loved how Jack's mom said "It's like finding a needle in a damned haystack." And the will was right there on the shelf.  She was clearly too busy drinking to look before Jack arrived.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on February 25, 2010, 03:55:44 PM
I haven't seen a lot of acting that i'd call atrocious on that show. Most of the moments where I begin to think that the acting is really bad, I can just as easily decide that it's because of the lines they're speaking and blame it on the script. This is really evident in a lot of the "oh hell no!" type moments when people are sad, and the over the top pretty string type sounds start playing and all that stuff, combined with the crying they have to do. Crying is always weird to watch actors do.




Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fletcher munson on February 25, 2010, 09:35:57 PM
Daniel Faraday was Maggie Gyllenhaal's boyfriend in Secretary.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on February 25, 2010, 09:41:33 PM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 25, 2010, 09:49:42 PM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?

True, it's more plot driven than performance driven. At times I think the writing needs it to be over dramatic but with that said did I mention that I think Matthew Fox is horrible?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on February 26, 2010, 10:27:22 AM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?

True, it's more plot driven than performance driven. At times I think the writing needs it to be over dramatic but with that said did I mention that I think Matthew Fox is horrible?

It takes a lot of skill to pretend laugh and shake your head and appear angry all at the same time though!

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on February 26, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?

It depends who you ask. According to the show-runners, the show is all about the characters, whereas I could honestly give a fuck about the people on the show.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on February 26, 2010, 02:17:56 PM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?

It depends who you ask. According to the show-runners, the show is all about the characters, whereas I could honestly give a fuck about the people on the show.

Even so, I'd still shade the meaning between "character" and "acting."  TV is littered with great characters played by so-so actors, right?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trembling Eagle on February 27, 2010, 01:32:48 AM
It's not really an "acting" show, is it?

It depends who you ask. According to the show-runners, the show is all about the characters, whereas I could honestly give a fuck about the people on the show.

Even so, I'd still shade the meaning between "character" and "acting."  TV is littered with great characters played by so-so actors, right?


I don't get what that criticism is
the actors are hitting the notes, they are conveying the emotion....to me bad acting is (just because I just watched the rifftrax it's fresh in my mind) Common in that new Terminator movie.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on February 28, 2010, 09:16:31 AM
Daniel Faraday was Maggie Gyllenhaal's boyfriend in Secretary.

He was also in that movie "Spanking the Monkey."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on February 28, 2010, 03:18:50 PM
Daniel Faraday was Maggie Gyllenhaal's boyfriend in Secretary.

He was also in that movie "Spanking the Monkey."

I don't remember seeing that in any of his flashbacks.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on February 28, 2010, 04:11:40 PM
Daniel Faraday was Maggie Gyllenhaal's boyfriend in Secretary.

He was also in that movie "Spanking the Monkey."

Wasn't he also Brad Pitt's brother in Legends of the Fall or A River Runs Through It (I always get those two confused for some reason).
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on March 01, 2010, 12:05:05 PM
Al Trautwig's(!) surprisingly lucid recaps of LOST:

http://msg.com/lost/ (http://msg.com/lost/)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 04, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
I think many of the actors on Lost are terrible, the characters are unpleasant almost to a man/woman, and the story itself tries too hard and wants you to know it.  Even so, the hour goes by in a flash, so something about it must hold my interest.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 04, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
I think many of the actors on Lost are terrible, the characters are unpleasant almost to a man/woman, and the story itself tries too hard and wants you to know it.  Even so, the hour goes by in a flash, so something about it must hold my interest.

Is it the fact that Sawyer is somehow chubby and cut at the same time?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on March 07, 2010, 07:18:11 AM
I think many of the actors on Lost are terrible, the characters are unpleasant almost to a man/woman, and the story itself tries too hard and wants you to know it.  Even so, the hour goes by in a flash, so something about it must hold my interest.

Is it the fact that Sawyer is somehow chubby and cut at the same time?

I feel like he just put on some weight during the last break. He didn't used to be like that...I don't think. Maybe he's expecting.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 07, 2010, 03:14:37 PM
It has nothing to do with Sawyer, although I do find him less repellent than Jack, whom I loathe.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 07, 2010, 06:45:18 PM
It has nothing to do with Sawyer, although I do find him less repellent than Jack, whom I loathe.

Agreed 1000%
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on March 12, 2010, 08:01:32 AM
I am having a lot of trouble getting into this season. :(
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steeley Chris on March 12, 2010, 09:40:38 AM
I am having a lot of trouble getting into this season. :(
It feels slow, but I think that's because they don't have a million story threads to follow like in seasons past.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on March 12, 2010, 10:40:23 AM
I wasn't crazy about this week's episode, but it was pretty awesome to see William Atherton again.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Gilly on March 12, 2010, 11:33:44 AM
I don't think it's going to be much of a surprise at the end. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like everybody knows what's happening right now with the alternate timeline.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 12, 2010, 04:32:47 PM
I thought I knew until this last one. Now I'm dumb again.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fletcher munson on March 13, 2010, 11:30:41 AM
It's not the best season, so far.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on March 13, 2010, 12:04:50 PM
I really really liked this Dr. Linus episode. Easily the best of the season and one of the best of the series BUT:
that scene with Ben and Ilana was so ridiculously fast-paced for the content. It should have been at least twice as long.

Also, Mario Van Peebles directed it what?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: snogrog on March 13, 2010, 06:56:26 PM
Also, Mario Van Peebles directed it what?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/SwWmNilWkSI/AAAAAAAAwdM/ui84YXhXTSg/s1600/mario.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: snogrog on March 13, 2010, 07:06:51 PM
Also, for the record...I am enjoying this season.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on March 14, 2010, 04:04:33 AM
So I was listening to the podcast from this week's best show, and suddenly had a scary moment.

Next time you hear John Hodgman speak, try to imagine a Ben Linus doing the speaking. I bet he could do a great character impression.

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 14, 2010, 09:13:41 AM
Also, for the record...I am enjoying this season.

Me too. Join me over here at the Geek's table. I wear it proudly.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JustNicole on March 14, 2010, 12:49:10 PM
I fell asleep during the one where (SPOILER) Claire is holding Jin prisoner in her camp. I should probably continue watching from that point.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: snogrog on March 14, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
Also, for the record...I am enjoying this season.

Me too. Join me over here at the Geek's table. I wear it proudly.

Gladly!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 14, 2010, 10:44:50 PM
Also, for the record...I am enjoying this season.

Me too. Join me over here at the Geek's table. I wear it proudly.

Gladly!

I think I like it too but it's the first season I'm watching live and it pisses me off whenever the episodes end and I have to wait a week. I never would have stuck with it if I started watching while it was on TV.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2010, 10:46:04 PM
See, I was smart and started watching it when it began airing daily on G4. 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 15, 2010, 11:15:27 AM
But that means you have to see Olivia Munn 5 or 6 times per episode.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 15, 2010, 11:16:25 AM
Not if you recorded it first and quickly hit "fast-forward," you didn't.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: snogrog on March 16, 2010, 12:00:20 AM
I'm pretty sure G4 will just start making all their ads 4 minute still images of Munn so...you may be outta luck soon.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 16, 2010, 09:39:44 AM
Doesn't matter.  I caught up with the first several seasons on G4, but I started watching on ABC last year. 

I win.

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wood and iron on March 16, 2010, 04:28:59 PM
My problem with this season so far has been twofold:

1) The writers made the same mistake they made at the beginning of Season Three; they made the (at least on-island versions) characters sit around passively while the Others say tantalizing things and never answer a damn thing. For at least five episodes, our heroes have just been chilling out. That's not great TV.

2) The season is shaping up to be more about this epic battle between Jacob and Smokey and ultimately our heroes seem to be passing by the wayside. These are characters we knew existed only a season ago (caveat: yes, I know Smokey has been on the show since the beginning but as a character he's new). Instead of having the denouement of the show come from the characters, we're getting the story of something completely external that makes our characters merely pawns.

Last week's episode was a step up and since they've left the Temple I hope things pick up more significantly.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on March 17, 2010, 06:19:46 AM
My biggest hang-up is how several characters haven't really reclaimed their characters as we've known them to a great extent yet. I feel like i'm watching a completely different show and not in a comfortable way. I'm not the kind of person to need hand-holdinig through television or film but let's face it - 6 seasons into a show, we're not watching it for it's "awesome" writing anymore. We've all found elements and characters and stuff to like and become attached to. And we're just seeing a lot of familiar actors playing new characters, or "important" characters being backseated.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on March 17, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
Ben is so far and away my favorite character, so having an episode focused on him was great.



Anybody watch the finale of "Psych?"  What was up with the ending?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 17, 2010, 10:19:56 PM
Ben is so far and away my favorite character, so having an episode focused on him was great.


By far the best of the season. In my top five of the whole series. Michael Emerson is my favorite too. He gets it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 18, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
Anybody watch the finale of "Psych?"  What was up with the ending?

I'm several episodes behind.  I'll let you know what I think of the ending when I finally get there.  If I remember.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on March 18, 2010, 12:00:47 PM
Anybody watch the finale of "Psych?"  What was up with the ending?

I'm several episodes behind.  I'll let you know what I think of the ending when I finally get there.  If I remember.

Write it in Sharpie on your hand.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 18, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
It could be a while.  I'll get a tattoo.  More durable.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 18, 2010, 10:21:52 PM
It could be a while.  I'll get a tattoo.  More durable.

So you're more of a Jack girl than a Charlie girl.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 18, 2010, 10:55:21 PM
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THIS WEEK

The ending of this week's episode was the least THUD-worthy ending yet.  "We ain't taking the plane, Freckles. We're taking the sub." THUD.  That's not very exciting at all.  The THUD needs to be saved for something like "The Black Rock arrived on the island full of polar bears." THUD.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 19, 2010, 08:17:34 AM
It could be a while.  I'll get a tattoo.  More durable.

So you're more of a Jack girl than a Charlie girl.

You take that back.

(Actually, my biggest Lost crush was Mr. Eko.  Remember him?)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on March 19, 2010, 08:19:45 AM

(Actually, my biggest Lost crush was Mr. Eko.  Remember him?)

I love that guy, I have a crush on him too ... he was also on Oz.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 19, 2010, 08:29:23 AM
I know!  Hubba hubba, eh?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on March 19, 2010, 09:30:11 AM
I know!  Hubba hubba, eh?

'Member, he would walk around Oz shirtless w/that teeny weeny hat perched on his large skull? 'MEMBER?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Wes on March 19, 2010, 09:38:50 AM
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THIS WEEK

The ending of this week's episode was the least THUD-worthy ending yet.  "We ain't taking the plane, Freckles. We're taking the sub." THUD.  That's not very exciting at all.  The THUD needs to be saved for something like "The Black Rock arrived on the island full of polar bears." THUD.

I agree, far and away the least exciting ending the show has ever done. The only way that was an acceptable episode closer is if the conversation ended right there, and we get another cliffhanger a few episodes from now where Sawyer and Kate storm the submarine, and a guard on the sub gets the drop on Sawyer, who says "Might wanna check behind ya' there, Das Boot" and the guard turns around only to get knocked out by Kate, and then they run to the control room and see all this complex shit you need to actually pilot a submarine and Sawyer admits "Uh...I just kinda assumed I'd know how ta drive one of these things on accounta I saw that movie with Frasier from Cheers on cable once..." THUD.

I still enjoy the show, even though I think this season has been all over the place, quality-wise. The sideways-flashing deals are annoying and eating up way too much time in what should be the final season where we get answers and watch people on the island get beaten to death by smoke monsters. I really wish they'd stop introducing new characters and instead spend time with important, previously introduced Magic Scotsmen and Magic 6'10" twelve year olds. Right now, there's still too much "What's going on?" "You wouldn't believe me if I told you!" "Yes I would!" "Oh? Well, I'll tell you everything...LATER!" junk that plagued the second and third seasons, which is insane for this, the final one.

Right now, I'm just hoping for Sayid to turn good again and kill both Jacob and the Smoke Monster - we've been denied the Sayid/Smoke fight for six years now - or for him to just stay evil and kill both Jacob and the Smoke Monster anyway, because he's Sayid and it's cool when he kills people.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 19, 2010, 10:10:04 AM
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THIS WEEK

The ending of this week's episode was the least THUD-worthy ending yet.  "We ain't taking the plane, Freckles. We're taking the sub." THUD.  That's not very exciting at all.  The THUD needs to be saved for something like "The Black Rock arrived on the island full of polar bears." THUD.

I agree, far and away the least exciting ending the show has ever done. The only way that was an acceptable episode closer is if the conversation ended right there, and we get another cliffhanger a few episodes from now where Sawyer and Kate storm the submarine, and a guard on the sub gets the drop on Sawyer, who says "Might wanna check behind ya' there, Das Boot" and the guard turns around only to get knocked out by Kate, and then they run to the control room and see all this complex shit you need to actually pilot a submarine and Sawyer admits "Uh...I just kinda assumed I'd know how ta drive one of these things on accounta I saw that movie with Frasier from Cheers on cable once..." THUD.

I still enjoy the show, even though I think this season has been all over the place, quality-wise. The sideways-flashing deals are annoying and eating up way too much time in what should be the final season where we get answers and watch people on the island get beaten to death by smoke monsters. I really wish they'd stop introducing new characters and instead spend time with important, previously introduced Magic Scotsmen and Magic 6'10" twelve year olds. Right now, there's still too much "What's going on?" "You wouldn't believe me if I told you!" "Yes I would!" "Oh? Well, I'll tell you everything...LATER!" junk that plagued the second and third seasons, which is insane for this, the final one.

Right now, I'm just hoping for Sayid to turn good again and kill both Jacob and the Smoke Monster - we've been denied the Sayid/Smoke fight for six years now - or for him to just stay evil and kill both Jacob and the Smoke Monster anyway, because he's Sayid and it's cool when he kills people.

Regarding the flash sideways, a friend of mine has an interesting theory that the flash sideways will turn out to be "the fact of the matter" and that the island reality is like a gauntlet that all of us run in parallel to our day-to-day lives, testing us as people.  Not Heaven or Hell or Purgatory, but a morality play we are all acting out right now.  It has a unidirectional impact...the choices we make there on the island drive us in this life (as little as Jack's unexplained bruises or as big as Ben choosing the student's future over his own quest for power).  This explanation would probably satisfy a general audience, because it is a comforting thought to know that as dull as life may seem, every little decision you make is being guided by some thrilling, epic trial that is happening at that moment.

Well, I thought it was cool.  My own prediction is that we aren't going to find out anything that we really care about (e.g. why the island can be moved and why the Dharma Initiative gave a shit about it in the first place and what powerful magnetic force lies within it and what that stupid button and symbols were in the hatch), but that the flash sideways will allow for two endings, one happy, one tragic.  For example, one in which Jack and Kate embrace at a wedding alter, and another one where Jack is dead in her arms on the island. Or one in which Jack and Kate end up together and another where Sawyer and Kate end up together leaving the island by sub and Jack decides to stay behind while the island sinks into the ocean.

I'm supposed to be working right now.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 19, 2010, 10:31:20 AM
I know!  Hubba hubba, eh?

'Member, he would walk around Oz shirtless w/that teeny weeny hat perched on his large skull? 'MEMBER?

What about the way he would walk around buck-nekkid?  

Poor old Simon.  Got his heart broken by that death-row hussy.  
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 19, 2010, 08:41:45 PM
I am enjoying the flash sideways more than the island stuff at this point. But I really like both.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on March 19, 2010, 09:17:24 PM
A long time ago the writers said the mythology and character-based narrative they had planned between the first and second seasons would have lasted four seasons.

If you break the crucial story down, it certainly seems that way.
We are just sort of coasting until what I assume is a revelatory and underwhelming final four.

The only thing I can really say to the naysayers is this:
This is on basic cable on American television. It is an ultra-serialized science fiction drama(dy) mystery ripe for overanalysis. No matter how blah it can actually be, it is very important and a testament to writing nerds overcoming producer schmucks.

At the end of the LOST day, the good guys win.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 19, 2010, 11:21:55 PM
A long time ago the writers said the mythology and character-based narrative they had planned between the first and second seasons would have lasted four seasons.

If you break the crucial story down, it certainly seems that way.
We are just sort of coasting until what I assume is a revelatory and underwhelming final four.

The only thing I can really say to the naysayers is this:
This is on basic cable on American television. It is an ultra-serialized science fiction drama(dy) mystery ripe for overanalysis. No matter how blah it can actually be, it is very important and a testament to writing nerds overcoming producer schmucks.

At the end of the LOST day, the good guys win.

Good point, the reason I got into the show is because I heard many people say that it's brought sci fi back to network TV. I also feel that since it's on a major network instead of a premium channel much more people are watching than did The Sopranos so if they do an ending that doesn't work for the fans they might get force into a movie. If the ending works but is drab and boring or expected then watch out for the decade of mostly terrible fan fiction that will follow.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Jouster on March 20, 2010, 07:23:06 PM
much more people are watching than did The Sopranos

Actually, not really.  This current season is averaging around 9 million viewers, and last season around 11 million.  Those are roughly the same numbers "The Sopranos" had when it was on.  Lost peaked way higher (23.4 million vs 13.4 for "The Sopranos"), but it seems like a pretty big portion of the "Lost" audience has bailed since those early years (or is possibly just waiting for DVD).

--Jouster, TV nerd
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 20, 2010, 09:47:38 PM

(Actually, my biggest Lost crush was Mr. Eko.  Remember him?)

I love that guy, I have a crush on him too ... he was also on Oz.

He was Adebesi aka tiny hat man! Who can forget that guy?

(http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/adebisi.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 20, 2010, 09:58:19 PM
much more people are watching than did The Sopranos

Actually, not really.  This current season is averaging around 9 million viewers, and last season around 11 million.  Those are roughly the same numbers "The Sopranos" had when it was on.  Lost peaked way higher (23.4 million vs 13.4 for "The Sopranos"), but it seems like a pretty big portion of the "Lost" audience has bailed since those early years (or is possibly just waiting for DVD).

--Jouster, TV nerd

Jouster, you are the post police. Thanks for keeping us (me) honest.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on March 20, 2010, 10:00:51 PM
i suppose watching Oz was worth it, but it was the least pleasant TV show I've ever watched, and sometimes it was more like a Harmony Korine movie than "gritty realism."

I still hear the between scenes percussion in my head about 15 times a day.  Please help me.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 20, 2010, 10:37:47 PM
i suppose watching Oz was worth it, but it was the least pleasant TV show I've ever watched, and sometimes it was more like a Harmony Korine movie than "gritty realism."

I still hear the between scenes percussion in my head about 15 times a day.  Please help me.

My wife and I watched Oz, but agreed the whole point of the show seemed to be to snuff out any trace or spark of hope you might have for those characters. Everybody ended up either dead or on death row eventually.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 21, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
(http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/adebisi.jpg)

How on earth did that thing stay on, do you suppose?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on March 21, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
This week we will get the scoop on that mysterious Dick Alpert!  He's been on that island for like a million years!  He came over on the Santa Maria with Chris Columbus, the director of Adventures in Babysitting.  Beth Shue is locked in that room on Widmore's submarine.

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on March 21, 2010, 04:39:01 PM
Beth Shue is locked in that room on Widmore's submarine.

You talking about Chuck Widmore?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on March 21, 2010, 06:19:33 PM
Beth Shue is locked in that room on Widmore's submarine.

You talking about Chuck Widmore?

Indeed.  He's a wealthy industrialist!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on March 22, 2010, 03:21:49 AM
Beth Shue is locked in that room on Widmore's submarine.

You talking about Chuck Widmore?

Indeed.  He's a wealthy industrialist!

Is he friends with Charles Whitmore?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 22, 2010, 03:12:13 PM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on March 22, 2010, 03:34:23 PM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!

I'd love seeing a frizzy-haired, dirt-caked Claire twirl around to the strains of "Box of Rain" while clutching that makeshift Alf-thing she had in the crib.

Is Jin ending up in that meat locker a reference to the classic installment of The Brady Bunch?  I hope he gets a chance to punch meat and then go bowling with Alice and Samuel.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on March 22, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!

I'd love seeing a frizzy-haired, dirt-caked Claire twirl around to the strains of "Box of Rain" while clutching that makeshift Alf-thing she had in the crib.

Ideally, this storyline would end with Claire ingesting too much of a particularly potent batch of LSD that renders her unable to speak. A nice callback would be to have this scene followed by William Sanderson saying, "You should've only taken one drop."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 22, 2010, 05:09:38 PM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!

I'd love seeing a frizzy-haired, dirt-caked Claire twirl around to the strains of "Box of Rain" while clutching that makeshift Alf-thing she had in the crib.


I'm pretty sure Hurley tried to sell me high-powered blotter acid in the Red Rocks parking lot back in '77.  He was in a blue VW van. But someone that only he could see told him not to, so he said "Never mind, dude."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on March 22, 2010, 05:14:41 PM
God help me, I think I've developed a crush on this gentleman. It's the eyebrows.

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Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trembling Eagle on March 23, 2010, 02:05:02 AM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!

I'd love seeing a frizzy-haired, dirt-caked Claire twirl around to the strains of "Box of Rain" while clutching that makeshift Alf-thing she had in the crib.


I'm pretty sure Hurley tried to sell me high-powered blotter acid in the Red Rocks parking lot back in '77.  He was in a blue VW van. But someone that only he could see told him not to, so he said "Never mind, dude."


this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcf2CO65lf4
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 23, 2010, 05:32:42 PM
I hope they give us some background on Alpert's friendship with Timothy Leary.  And that the Grateful Dead pop up on the island!

I'd love seeing a frizzy-haired, dirt-caked Claire twirl around to the strains of "Box of Rain" while clutching that makeshift Alf-thing she had in the crib.


I'm pretty sure Hurley tried to sell me high-powered blotter acid in the Red Rocks parking lot back in '77.  He was in a blue VW van. But someone that only he could see told him not to, so he said "Never mind, dude."


this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcf2CO65lf4

Wow.  Creepy. I have never seen that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.  ZEITGEIST!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fletcher munson on March 25, 2010, 09:03:05 PM
This week's Ricardo Alpert episode leave people speechless? ha
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on March 25, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
A bearded Richard on a horse.

That is all.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on March 25, 2010, 09:19:10 PM
pure evil has michael keaton's eyebrows.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fletcher munson on March 25, 2010, 09:30:00 PM
and wears black
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on March 25, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
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Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on March 26, 2010, 04:25:08 PM
That last episode gave me enough answers that I wonder if I really need to watch the rest of the series. That wine conversation kind of summed up the biggest question for me.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on March 26, 2010, 07:34:37 PM
That last episode gave me enough answers that I wonder if I really need to watch the rest of the series. That wine conversation kind of summed up the biggest question for me.

We've got the "why." Now we just need the "how."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 27, 2010, 07:11:10 AM
That business of Ricardo galloping home to Isabella only to turn around and gallop off to the doctor was really dumb.  If he was galloping home because he had just learned she was ill, why wasn't he surprised to find her so when he entered the house?  Who told him?  And, if someone was concerned enough to send for him, wouldn't that same person probably have arranged for someone to care for her or done so him/herself?  If no one sent for him and he already knew she was sick, what the hell was he doing so far away from home that he had to gallop like a demon to get back there?  The whole sequence was obviously just an excuse to show off Nestor Carbonell's riding talent.

And here's another thing:  Richard started off as Ricardo in 1897 (I think that was the date), so what's with all the Ricardus business?  Just a red herring?  It certainly made me think he was more than just a touch over a century old.
 
Finally, what makes the smoke monster so evil, I ask you?  It's scary, sure.  And mysterious.  But in the early seasons it came off as more of an avenging angel than a manifestation of evil.  And Jacob, that smug turd, backed the fake Others, who did some pretty unsavory shit, whereas the SM scared the bejesus out of them.  (Although there was that summoning business last season that I don't remember much about--were the Others behind that?)  And what about those guys in the temple?  They thought nothing of torturing Sayid.  I just don't buy this Jacob = good, SM = evil malarkey.  And the idea that the island is plugging the entrance to Hell is too hokey for words.  Shades of hellmouths and The Sentinel.  

All in all, this final season of Lost is merely confirming my long-held belief that in the sci fi/fantasy/horror genre (and often enough elsewhere as well) in general mystery is better.  Once it is explained, it becomes run-of-the-mill, leaving one faintly embarrassed that one found it intriguing in the first place.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 27, 2010, 09:01:36 AM
I just don't buy this Jacob = good, SM = evil malarkey.  And the idea that the island is plugging the entrance to Hell is too hokey for words.  Shades of hellmouths and The Sentinel


If the show ended here, I would agree with you 100%.  My hope is that "Jacob = good, SM = evil malarkey" turns out not to be the case. Jacob has a lot of douche-y qualities and the writers must know that.  He's no Aslan.  And the writers also know that The Others were baby stealers at one point.  So exactly, if they make this 'Jacob = good, SM = evil' then I too give it a big thumbs down. It is too simple...and too much like The Stand.  If they are willing to end with more ambiguity, I will be happier. 

Plus, I think the "cork" theory of the island can still be good as long as they play it well.


Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on March 27, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
Have they told us why Jacob is looking for a replacement and how he chose the people he's chosen? The guy seems content with his job and he doesn't appear to age, so why chose a replacement? Just in case he dies? That seems far-fetched. And I'm with Sarah and Jon as far as Jacob seeming like a bit of a jerk at times.

Anyway, wikipedia lists episode 15 of this season's featured characters as Jacob and Man in Black (I really hope they don't reveal his name to be Esau), so I'm assuming these questions will be answered then (if not before).
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 27, 2010, 11:59:03 AM
(I really hope they don't reveal his name to be Esau)

I've been worrying about the same thing.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 27, 2010, 01:32:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOsYN---eGk

(Sorry for repeating myself, ASTers.  I just love this bit.)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on March 27, 2010, 01:37:37 PM
Someone posted this on AST, but I like it enough to repost it here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg5OxQlj5zY[/youtube]

Language NSFW.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 27, 2010, 01:53:31 PM
Ha, I had seen that someone expressed a wish for this on AST but didn't notice that someone else had actually provided it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: slipperyslope on March 27, 2010, 05:57:20 PM
This season has been pretty crappy for me, quite honestly. A lot of the "magic" of the 2nd and 3rd seasons has been lost and it it feels like bad writers have taken over or something. However, this last episode, as drawn out as the old timey ricardo sequences were, seems to be sending the series back on track to something fantastic. My only concern was that I'd take to the net or conversation with peers to hear people who suck at observing things would come out and say "oh man, so cool, the island IS hell!"

although I would have been ok with that being the resolution of the entire series (if it was hell).
I don't think even the reference to it being the sort of thing between hell and the world is intended to be taken literally though. "Hell" is used most likely as a reference to all sorts of nastyness rather than the biblical bad place we've all heard about.



Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 28, 2010, 09:22:34 AM
Anybody watch the finale of "Psych?"  What was up with the ending?

Finally watched this last night.  I presume you're referring to the last shot, of Yin's gloved hand caressing a photograph of Mr. Yang and young Shawn?  If so, I have no idea what was up with it other than the obvious:  Ally Sheedy's character was friendly with Shawn when he was a kid (or someone is good at Photoshopping), and Yin isn't done.

Also, if the island were hell, it would be a pretty damn nice one. 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 28, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
It's hell as separation from God, or people you love, or the Internet, whatever the case may be.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on March 29, 2010, 08:15:32 AM
In other words, pretty wimpy as hells go.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 29, 2010, 12:54:43 PM
In other words, pretty wimpy as hells go.

Yeah. It ain't no this.

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Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fletcher munson on March 29, 2010, 08:45:42 PM
Is this the safe zone part of the FOT board where I can give my theories for season 6:

Jacob's enemy is actually the smoke monster and has been manipulating Christian Shepard and every other dead character we see roaming the island.

MORE SPOILERS

I think that scene in the finale between Jacob and other dude (maybe smoke monster? or at least on the smoke monster's side?) was the beginning of a battle for the soul of humanity. It's always been a very moral show, and the choices people made on the island both good (Charlie giving up drugs and becoming a decent person, everything Sawyer) and bad (Sayid giving into his demons) matters. It's a big chess game, or backgammon if you prefer. And I think that Jacob and other guy are either deities or something mystical, and they're in a dialectic battle over man. I don't know who believes what, but I'm guessing Jacob is the optimistic one, not necessarily good. I mean, the others claim to be the good guy, but we don't know who they follow. And the Dharma Initiative- are they just interlopers or are they there with an ideological backing?

But yeah, this show has been about a moral struggle since the start. That these people can start over, can redefine who they are, or can remain the same messed up people they were before crash landing on ABC.

I think David and woodandiron need to share their ideas on what will happen next.  Make haste, guys, less than 24 hrs until the next episode.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on March 30, 2010, 09:21:32 AM

or backgammon if you prefer.


I do!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Matthew_S on April 02, 2010, 07:47:38 PM

This is barely on topic but ...

Is it me or does the announcer in the ads for this show say,

"There's only 6 episodes left."

This grammar error (it is incorrect, right???) bothers me way more than it should (and it happens all the time).

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 02, 2010, 09:06:44 PM
Technically the numeral 6 is singular, so maybe that's allowed.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on April 02, 2010, 09:20:07 PM
Also, there are eight episodes left.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on April 03, 2010, 07:23:59 AM
Technically the numeral 6 is singular, so maybe that's allowed.

Nope.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on April 03, 2010, 12:37:39 PM
Technically the numeral 6 is singular, so maybe that's allowed.

Nope.

Whom didn't see this one coming?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on April 03, 2010, 01:10:58 PM
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Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wwwes on April 04, 2010, 10:18:29 PM
I was watching one of my Mr. Show DVDs tonight and noticed something I'd never noticed before.

Look to the right at about 20 seconds in. Fairly certain that is Josh Holloway. Was he just someone from an agency or did he know them?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/w-EhpnOxN4Q[/youtube]
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on April 04, 2010, 10:25:10 PM
I don't think that's him.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trembling Eagle on April 05, 2010, 03:23:34 AM
yeah that aint him

Holloway has this weird narrow shoulder thing going on
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on April 05, 2010, 06:23:29 AM
Definitely not he.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wwwes on April 05, 2010, 11:01:03 AM
I admit I don't know as much about shoulders as TE, but I maintain that it's definitely him. That guy has almost exactly the same facial gestures and mannerisms there. Not to mention that his IMDB shows that he didn't start getting bit parts and acting work in 1999 but was also in Aerosmith's Cryin' video. To me, I think it fits that he was sent over by a casting agency for a non-speaking role. But reasonable people can disagree.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on April 05, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
But reasonable people can disagree.

You're right!  I disagree with this statement, and I'm reasonable.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on April 05, 2010, 01:39:35 PM
Wow, man.  You're blowing my mind.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 05, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
That's definitely not him.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steeley Chris on April 06, 2010, 08:32:43 AM
It certainly looks like him.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pidgeon on April 06, 2010, 01:01:27 PM
Now I'm picturing Sawyer as a long-lost member of the Bluth family.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on May 19, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
JACOB: Do you have a cup?
JACK: Actually, I do!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Wes on May 20, 2010, 09:43:40 AM
JACOB: Do you have a cup?
JACK: Actually, I do!

Yes! Best moment of the season, in contention for best moment of the series.

This mostly lousy final season would have been redeemed in so many ways if Jack's response had been "Nope" and Jacob was all "Shit! I gotta start all over again!"
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Kim Kelly on May 20, 2010, 11:14:43 AM
It's better than WE HAVE TO GO BACK, KATE.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on May 20, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
The best line on Lost is:

"That douche is my dad." -- Miles Straume
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 20, 2010, 04:28:17 PM
The best line on Lost is:

"That douche is my dad." -- Miles Straume

Oh that was such a good moment! That was my favorite line until this year, when Fake Locke explained that he could not cross water on his own and Sawyer responded, "Yeah, because that would be ridiculous."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on May 20, 2010, 07:54:22 PM
Why do they play that indiana jones music in the parts that are all indiana jones-y?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on May 20, 2010, 10:02:50 PM
Why do they play that indiana jones music in the parts that are all indiana jones-y?

Because Michael Giacchino is a hack.   
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on May 20, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
I think this show wouldn't come off half as obnoxious as it does if it didn't have that soundtrack. Every plot twist/commercial break/cliffhanger has those ridiculously loud musical cues. And anything even remotely emotional has those awful strings EVERY DAMN TIME. It's like they can't understand the value of silence in a scene.

It's pretty jarring going from that to something like Breaking Bad, where a scene unusually relies solely on the actors, writing and cinematography.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Kim Kelly on May 20, 2010, 10:44:34 PM
I hate it when they play the goofy circus fun times music whenever Hurley is doing something. It's rude!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 21, 2010, 10:10:39 AM
At least it doesn't do that 'sad trumpet' thing they do on 'The Boondocks' every time Uncle Ruckus appears. They could be doing that everytime the smoke monster appears...
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Omar on May 21, 2010, 06:13:21 PM
Glorious:

http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/lost/index.html
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on May 21, 2010, 09:31:01 PM
Giacchino IS pretty hacky. Lost would be so much better without a soundtrack (or perhaps a super-minimalist one).

HOWEVER: there is one motif that rocks hard: the delicate piano used for reunions or slow motion--usually, both.
i am looking forward to the last five minutes of the finale because i'm almost certain that gossamer piano will tinkle in with jack's open-mouthed stare-of-realization and poor sweet john locke's rubber smile. it's sappy but i really like it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Kid Pain on May 24, 2010, 01:03:35 AM
they should have come back from the last commercial break and just had kirk cameron playing the role of jack for the rest of the episode.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Christina on May 24, 2010, 07:07:20 AM
So it was earth all along, right?
Soylent Green is people?
Darth Vader is Luke's father?
Bruce Willis was dead the whole time?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: senorcorazon on May 24, 2010, 08:49:51 AM
[youtube]gyYY96wcj50[/youtube]

And that was that.
"They're not dead, we swear."
"They're, uh.... dead, I guess......cough."
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 24, 2010, 10:59:25 AM

My own prediction is that we aren't going to find out anything that we really care about (e.g. why the island can be moved and why the Dharma Initiative gave a shit about it in the first place and what powerful magnetic force lies within it and what that stupid button and symbols were in the hatch), but that the flash sideways will allow for two endings, one happy, one tragic.  For example, one in which Jack and Kate embrace at a wedding alter, and another one where Jack is dead in her arms on the island. Or one in which Jack and Kate end up together and another where Sawyer and Kate end up together leaving the island by sub and Jack decides to stay behind while the island sinks into the ocean.

I'm supposed to be working right now.

Damn! I wasn't too far off!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 24, 2010, 01:53:47 PM
Just realized that the scene where Driveshaft (with Daniel on the keys) plays for Mrs. Widmore was the most awkward thing I have seen on TV since, like, the 1970's.  It reminded me a lot of when The Doobie Brothers guest starred on What's Happenin'.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: crumbum on May 24, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Just realized that the scene where Driveshaft (with Daniel on the keys) plays for Mrs. Widmore was the most awkward thing I have seen on TV since, like, the 1970's.  It reminded me a lot of when The Doobie Brothers guest starred on What's Happenin'.

As a non-fan who watched the finale with only a rough sense of everything that came before, the biggest unanswered question for me was this: how did Driveshaft become successful?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 24, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
I feel like I was Touched By An Angel after that finale.

Agreed on the Daniel/Driveshaft incongruous Grammy appearance style jam session. WTF?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on May 24, 2010, 04:32:43 PM
At least the Sopranos ending was somewhat artistic, that was crap.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on May 24, 2010, 05:09:46 PM
Yes, it was.  Luckily for me, I had few expectations.  I do wonder about Sun and Jin's baby.  And Walt.  And Peg Bundy.  And Rousseau and her daughter.  And what happened to Alpert, Lapidus, and the Miles, Kate, and Sawyer who were on the plane.  And to Hurley and Ben, now stuck together forever on the island, with Rose and Bernard.  Mostly, though, I wonder whether Lost's creators are Boosh fans, since Hurley's "I've got a bad feeling about this" was straight out of Bollo's mouth.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on May 24, 2010, 05:23:10 PM
I liked it pretty well, and the whole season pretty well.

Homages to Star Wars, Wrath of Khan and Lord of the Rings (the whole freaking ending!).

They sure did pack a lot of characters into the finale.  I would have liked more Sawyer (the second most interesting character) and more Ben (by far, far the most interesting character that show produced).

I dunno, a lot of media dreck leaves me cold, but I ended up liking Lost overall.  I lost some interest about season 2.5 and they eventually got me back.  Not bad for a freaking ABC show.

Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Gilly on May 24, 2010, 05:37:57 PM
I thought it stunk. If I would have known from the beginning that it was a primetime soap rather than a mystery drama I would have never started to watch. Everybody says, it's all about the characters but the characters and acting never were all that great, only good enough to push along the mystery.... and then they decided the mystery didn't really matter? What a joke.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: TacoSmith on May 24, 2010, 07:29:05 PM
Y'all are some str8 up haterz. I loved it.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 24, 2010, 08:57:52 PM
Y'all are some str8 up haterz. I loved it.

I am with you.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: erika on May 24, 2010, 09:14:10 PM
It was the goddamn dog that did it to me. I can't stop thinking about Vincent laying down next to Jack. I am SO easy.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: masterofsparks on May 24, 2010, 09:56:01 PM
It was the goddamn dog that did it to me. I can't stop thinking about Vincent laying down next to Jack. I am SO easy.

That kinda got me a little bit.

My main problem with the episode, and increasingly with the show, is the writers insisting, once it became obvious that they were not going to be able to answer a lot of the mysteries they'd set up, that this is "a character-based show, not a mystery-based show." That's a fine sentiment, but unfortunately creating a character-based show means creating memorable characters and, hopefully, having great actors portray them. In my opinion, Lost did neither (there were rare but noteworthy exceptions). I was much more interested in the mystery and mythology and geek stuff, but I guess that makes for less broad appeal (certainly less than love triangles and the like).
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: wwwes on May 24, 2010, 10:02:12 PM
I feel like they chickened out of what would have been the really bold move, just acknowledging within the show that nobody has any clue what is going on.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trotskie on May 24, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
However they got there, I thought that the image of fading Jack and Vincent was a great way for the island narrative to go out.


And enough with those two, Lindelof and Cuse.  Take five guys.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Trembling Eagle on May 25, 2010, 04:14:10 AM
that purgatory shit didn't make sense

why would they be sharing purgatories

Why does he have a fake kid in the puragtory? What happens to the fake kid once he moves on? How about Sun and Jins baby? Why is Penny there? Why is Aaron still a baby?

 If he has a fake kid in the purgatory then everybody I assume apart from Jack wasn't really there. If thats true, then no point in the Kate, Sun & Jin, Sawyer stories in purgatory flashes this season.

Failed season 6.


Whatever, I'm done with network tv anyway. Even the very best of it is fucking retarded.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on May 25, 2010, 06:54:24 AM
Having slept on this weighty matter, I have decided that Lost's makers were very smart to end it as they did.  There was no way they could resolve all of the pseudoscientific mysteries satisfactorily, and neither was the mythology they had created cohesive enough to be wrapped up tidily, so they opted for sentimentality.  They gave the viewers a bunch of happy endings, which probably left more people with a better taste in their mouths than a lot of half-assed explanation would have done.  I mostly find that when mysteries are explained, there's a letdown, sort of like the slump during those hours after the presents have been opened on Christmas morning.  Even if Cuse and Lindelof had been able to check all the boxes by all the unanswered questions--and I don't think they could have, because they themselves had no idea what boxes to check--some people might have felt the fussy glow one gets after completing a task but that comfort would have been cold compared to all the easy emotions evoked by all the soppiness.  Where Cuse and Lindelof screwed up, I think, is promising--or at least implying--that everything would be tied up with a neat bow.  That is what has caused so many people to feel a little bit as though they've been duped.

But, hey, it was only a TV show. 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Rhea from Winnipeg on May 25, 2010, 07:37:04 AM
I'm going to miss it, but at least it ended when it did, instead of beating a dead horse (think The X-Files)
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fonpr on May 25, 2010, 08:28:09 AM

Whatever, I'm done with network tv anyway.

Hear here.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 25, 2010, 10:19:14 AM
I was quite happy with the ending on the island, and I sincerely feel that that ending can be understood completely devoid of the altaverse.  But the altaverse - yechhh - it seemed like just an excuse to have everyone together on stage at the end like the end of an episode of SNL....awkward hugging included.

I do not think anyone can convince me that the altaverse made any sense at all, even by its own internal logic.

And I agree 100%, Sarah, that checking off all of the mysteries would have been a fatal mistake (As the writers themselves point out, George Lucas chose to explain the Force with midichlorians, and look how satisfying that was).  I am more than happy that the writers left us wondering about the nature of "the light." That deserves to be mysterious forever.  But there were a few mysteries that took up so much time on the screen that ignoring them seemed a little odd.  Why did the island cure some people of cancer but not others?  Why could no babies be born on the island, but then some could?  The button in the hatch? C'mon. At least give us that. 

 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on May 25, 2010, 03:27:48 PM
And I agree 100%, Sarah, that checking off all of the mysteries would have been a fatal mistake (As the writers themselves point out, George Lucas chose to explain the Force with midichlorians, and look how satisfying that was).  I am more than happy that the writers left us wondering about the nature of "the light." That deserves to be mysterious forever.  But there were a few mysteries that took up so much time on the screen that ignoring them seemed a little odd.  Why did the island cure some people of cancer but not others?  Why could no babies be born on the island, but then some could?  The button in the hatch? C'mon. At least give us that. 

What Lucas did was a mistake because it was pretty much the only mysterious thing in his story and I don't think many people cared about an answer in the first place. The problem with Lost and its writers are they introduced mystery upon mystery upon mystery for about 6 seasons of TV, no doubt solely for the cool commercial breaks and episode/season cliffhangers. They went on to have the characters ask what was going on a million times in the show only to be evaded with some of the dumbest and most infuriatingly cryptic dialogue from the characters in the know (who end up not being in the know, because the writers themselves were never in the know).

They dug a giant pit of mystery and there was no way to get out of it. They say it's a show about characters and not about the mysteries, which would be fine if the mystery elements didn't get as much or more screen time. The solution? Don't write so much weird shit.

When I look at the show as a whole I hate it, I loath its writing style, but it ended about as good as it could have.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on May 25, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
When I first started watching the show, two things hooked me:  the scenery was nice, and it was on every day (I was watching it on G4).  I disliked almost all the characters and thought a lot of the mystery stuff was entertaining enough but silly.  It was just like a soap opera, in other words.  When I started watching the show weekly (beginning in season 5), I enjoyed the show far less, in part because I preferred the daily fix but also because so much action took place off the island.  Season 6 I found especially dumb.  But, again, what the hell.  The show whiled away many hours reasonably pleasantly.  That's not bad.

In honor of the passing of Lost, this afternoon I'm watching the series finale of 24, even though I gave this season a miss.  I want to see whether Jack gets his well-earned rest alive or dead.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Reeleyes on May 25, 2010, 04:55:15 PM
I just wanted to know what was up with Walt. He was the big mystery in the first 2 seasons. He was special, the others wanted him, he was the key to something. I know the actor grew up but in the final timeline of the island was 3 years after the original Oceanic crash so there was no reason that they couldn't throw him into the last season mix. I wouldn't care so much if they didn't make it such a big deal early on. The finale would have been better as a reunion episode.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: thom on May 25, 2010, 08:36:50 PM
I think the most noteworthy thing about Lost is the desire for "answers" to the mysterious bits and bobs.
There aren't many other sci-fi shows that have viewers grasping for conclusive resolutions to its narrative props and devices that are obviously supernatural.

For example, in that pirate movie, there's a compass that points to what its user desires most.
If that compass were in Lost, everyone would be like... Who made that compass? How does it work?

Sawyer finds a ring with weird writing on it. He puts it on, and he turns invisible.
Who made that ring? How does it work? Can anyone translate that inscription? Does anyone have an HD screencap of it? How many carats?


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Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on May 25, 2010, 11:23:29 PM
I don't think necessarily we wanted the instructional reel guy to come out and explain things to us, but it wouldn't have killed them to have thrown us one or two 'oh, so that's what that was' bones.

In the second-to-last episode they made the man in black more ambiguous; he wasn't necessarily evil but definitely was curious and skeptical of superstition, and Jacob was kind of a momma's boy then boom, MiB is pure evil again. So in a way we end up with that 'there are questions you shouldn't ask and places you shouldn't go' anti-science message found in various sci-fi/fantasy and Bible stories over the years. 'Shut up, kid, you ask too many questions. I'm gonna turn you into a smoke monster now. How do you like that?'

All that said I mostly just went along for the ride with that show. It was entertaining enough. I like watching David Lynch's films, and they aren't exactly full of neatly tied up logical elements.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Sarah on May 25, 2010, 11:34:53 PM
Oh, it's just some hokey religious metaphor:  the smoke monster isn't really the man in black; it's the evil introduced into the world by Jacob's murder of his brother that just happens to be able to don the guise of the dead, acquiring their memories in the process (which is why Jacob and the MiB are still chummy even though they are antagonists).  

I don't think it was pure evil.  When you come down to it, the smoke monster was equated with science; Jacob with faith.  And Cuse and Lindelof chose the anti-intellectual route and came down resoundingly in favor of faith. 
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: orator on May 26, 2010, 12:55:16 AM
I don't think necessarily we wanted the instructional reel guy to come out and explain things to us, but it wouldn't have killed them to have thrown us one or two 'oh, so that's what that was' bones.

In the second-to-last episode they made the man in black more ambiguous; he wasn't necessarily evil but definitely was curious and skeptical of superstition, and Jacob was kind of a momma's boy then boom, MiB is pure evil again. So in a way we end up with that 'there are questions you shouldn't ask and places you shouldn't go' anti-science message found in various sci-fi/fantasy and Bible stories over the years. 'Shut up, kid, you ask too many questions. I'm gonna turn you into a smoke monster now. How do you like that?'

Yeah. For a little while there I thought they were going to do something really cool with the MiB, which is make him sympathetic and make the actions of the protagonists morally ambiguous. For a little while there he was just a guy who got screwed over by his brother and his insane mother and he just wanted to leave the island through any means. A tragic villain. They made Jacob look like a huge asshole with questionable motives. And then really quick they killed all that with "if he gets off the island, everyone in the world will die!" Why? "BECAUSE!" And then for some reason that wasn't enough, so they made him want to destroy the island, too.

Oh well.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Pregnant Pause on May 27, 2010, 08:50:17 PM
For whatever reason the ending reminded me of the ending of Labyrinth
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on May 28, 2010, 05:06:01 PM
For whatever reason the ending reminded me of the ending of Labyrinth

David Bowie's package?
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: fonpr on May 28, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
David Bowie's package?   Pregnant Pause

Band name and album title.  Buffcoat = brilliant.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: bakersfieldchimp on May 29, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
It was the goddamn dog that did it to me. I can't stop thinking about Vincent laying down next to Jack. I am SO easy.

Same here-- I didn't get to watch the finale until last night, but that image really stuck with me and made me sad-ish.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: buffcoat on June 01, 2010, 09:13:01 AM
David Bowie's package?   Pregnant Pause

Band name and album title.  Buffcoat = brilliant.

Thanks, Freddie!
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: erika on June 01, 2010, 12:08:11 PM
I want royalties on that album, Buffy.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: Wes on June 01, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
For whatever reason the ending reminded me of the ending of Labyrinth

David Bowie's package?

There was an episode this season called "The Package" that would have been the perfect time for that reveal. Though I could see that causing issues with ABC standards and practices.

If Bowie would have played Jacob, that might have gone a long way to salvaging the pretty worthless final season of Lost.
Title: Re: LOST season 6
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 01, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
So much hatred for a fluffy entertainment. I think some of you are constructing a mass hallucination purgatory for yourselves. It's time to let go!