The Joy Thread

[Trembling Eagle]

I know a little something about the bible, you know what Jesus said about gays?
Nothing.


ughh
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I don't like having to be diplomatic about this

but  whatever, it's nobody's fault but the voters.

[erika]

http://www.slideflickr.com/slide/HvSk82iH

neato.

[Fido]

Damn straight, TE.  But the Nation article was interesting -- it stated that the Yes on 8 campaign just plain outmanuevered the No on 8 campaign, reaching out to minority media more extensively and early. I'd add that a lot of that probably had to do with funding, but not entirely so. If it's really a matter of getting the message out in media and face-to-face, so be it.

[chrisfoll577]

I propose this thread be merged with the Sour Grapes thread.

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/11/07/fourth_republic/

[Martin]

http://www.slideflickr.com/slide/HvSk82iH

neato.

Yes! That's what I want to see in a Joy thread.

[erika]

Exactly.

[erika]

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

[Sarah]

I looked for an updated "sorry everybody" site on Wednesday to no avail.  Glad to see that it has since appeared.

[Beth]

A clearly laid out agenda of fixing things over here.

http://www.change.gov/



I'm starting to feel a little better about things. I can't wait for Bush to be outta there.

 Like Letterman said, "Obama was elected president of the United States. Would anyone mind if he started early?"

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I was *just* thinking about that.  Particularly with his press meeting coming up shortly.

Bush has practically been AWOL for months now, at least from the public eye.  Foreign leaders are all but addressing Obama directly instead of Bush at this point.

He's basically President already.

Our current lame duck President is going out with like the biggest whimper ever (which is fine by me). 

[Wes]

Man, Carter just looks delighted to be President there.

I'm tempted to start a "Rate The Presidents Based Purely On Their Presidential Portrait" thread if there's any interest. Andrew Jackson never gets enough credit for his trailblazing tenure as our first Vampire-American President.

[WavyGravy]

Our current lame duck President is going out with like the biggest whimper ever (which is fine by me).

I'm still waiting for somebody to dis him in public.  That'll be the cherry.

[Beth]

Man, Carter just looks delighted to be President there.

I'm tempted to start a "Rate The Presidents Based Purely On Their Presidential Portrait" thread if there's any interest. Andrew Jackson never gets enough credit for his trailblazing tenure as our first Vampire-American President.

Who is the better president with a big beard? I'm tempted to say Hayes. He looks more stoic.

[Gilly]

I know a little something about the bible, you know what Jesus said about gays?
Nothing.

Both sides rationalize when it comes to this. While Jesus never said being gay is a sin, it's very blatant in the Old Testament that it is... and then you get in to the whole debate of what we should take literally in those books. Some things are obviously meant for their time but there are a lot of things that definitely carried over after Jesus was born. So, the argument can't be made that just because it's in the old law it needs to be discredited.

Jesus' teaching showed compassion and love and he never forced his teaching on anybody else or became angered by sin unless people were using God for self profit. But, then you have the Apostle Paul who's writings and teachings were at times forceful, dictating right and wrong. You also have accounts of God striking down entire cities for immorality. There's rationalization on both sides. IMO, the teachings of Jesus should be held above all but there is definitely material in the Bible that backs a yes vote on Prop 8 and a lot of pastors are preaching that all across the country.