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Music Video Analysis Thread
« on: May 05, 2009, 12:41:33 PM »
There was some sentiment in last week's chat that the time was right for a thread dedicated the analysis of music videos. This is that thread.

Inspired in part by a previous thread in which we debated the nature of the apocalyptic event that wiped out humanity in the video for "Stayin' Alive", we will begin with the video for 1982's "You Got Lucky" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKJeZjjUJw[/youtube]

While I have a general topic and some discussion questions to get us started, please feel free to take the discussion of a particular video in any direction that you feel requires examination.

The key issue that I'd like us to tackle is the setting and plot of the video. Where - and when - are Petty and the Heartbreakers in this video? Is this a standard post-apocalyptic setting, the kind often seen in film and in the works of the Bee Gees, and are we thus witnessing the band scavenging a destroyed Earth? Or is there something else going on, and if so, what role does the group play?

General points:
  • What do you make of the unique vehicle in which Tom Petty and Mike Campbell arrive at the beginning of the video? If this video does take place on a post-apocalyptic Earth, what do you think fuels it? The rest of the Hearbreakers arrive about 1:30 into the video on what appears to be a more traditional motorcycle and sidecar.
  • What does the band's attire tell us about the setting?
  • Does the horizon offer us any clues?
  • What do you make of the structure that they enter and the working technology within?
  • Please consider the images that we are shown once the television sets are powered up. Is any of the footage shown on the monitors significant?
  • What prompts Petty's reaction to the old arcade cabinet at around the 3:30 mark?
  • Is there any significance to the objects that the group takes with them versus what they leave behind?

Non-plot related notes:
  • Petty trips over a partly-buried transistor radio about 40 seconds in...this is pretty good physical acting from Petty. And note the "shocked by technology" look he gives us at about 2:05. Why doesn't he get more film work? Would you ask Tom Petty about this if you were interviewing him on the radio?
  • Which Heartbreaker is the best actor? It's OK if you can't identify them by name, just describe the performance.

OK, that's all for now. I have some theories about the video, but didn't want to make the discussion points too leading. Looking ahead, the next video up for discussion will be Bowie's "Let's Dance". I'll start that up after we've made some headway on this one. Feel free to suggest future videos for analysis, though I recommend that they lean towards the more plot-heavy side for now.
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 05:28:53 PM »
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the model for Petty's character in this video was James Coburn in Giù la testa (Duck, You Sucker/A Fistful of Dynamite).  Down to the facial expressions.

When the other Heartbreakers pull up in the motorcycle-sidecar combo, I honestly thought that the two bigger-haired ones were dressed as futuristic apes.  I was quite surprised when they turned out to just look like 80s musicians.  Maybe it was the goggles?

You are right to point out the color of the sky.  This is definitely someone's idea of what a radioactive sky would look like.  The result is probably as good a guess as any - kudos, Herr Direktor.

I think the structure that they enter was clearly designed for "Laser Floyd," or the significantly less popular "Laser Petty."  The director probably told Mr. P. the latter. 

That would make this some sort of small fairground or rural carnival that has slowly disintegrated.  I find it fairly unlikely that the rest of the carnival would have blown away, leaving this one structure relatively undamaged and fully functional.  Although slightly advanced solar power might explain why the electronics are working.

Petty's fey friend in the future-car is the most convincing character, although I doubt very much he'd be comfortable with what he's convincing as.


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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »
I think the setting is Earth after an alien invasion.  The alien invasion has apparently wiped out Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers' memories.  Now the group are traveling space cowboys.  They wonder into some telecommunications center left over from the alien invasion. The television monitors show footage of the alien attack and a Tom Petty concert.  When the band sees the footage, their memory comes back.  They realize that they are a rock 'n' roll band.  Tom Petty knocks over the arcade cabinet because it is an alien invasion game (the marquee says Alien Invasion).  They take the guitar to fight the aliens by the power of their rock 'n' roll. 

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 08:27:25 PM »
Aaron, I gotta say, you pretty much nailed my interpretation right down the line, especially the connection between the TV footage of the spaceship attack on the city and Petty's reason for knocking over the Alien Invasion game!

Additionally, I think the vehicle in the beginning is an alien/human tech hybrid that may also be a time machine, and that the Heartbreakers have been going back in time, trying to get together what they need to stop the alien invasion, which explains why their clothing seems to range across various time periods. Note the way Petty regards the coins that come out of the slot machine: I think he sees this as useful currency for when they make their next jaunt back in time.

Unfortunately, I can't help but think that their efforts are doomed to fail. Perhaps others will see a flaw in this interpretation, but I think the Heartbreakers see that footage of them performing in pre-invasion era, and when Campbell picks up the guitar and suddenly plays the solo from "You Got Lucky", they hatch a plan to go back to when that performance happened to make their move on the aliens. Unfortunately, that footage of them playing is proof that they've already tried this plan in the past and failed because of closed-loop time theory. The "You Got Lucky" video was probably a huge influence on Lost.
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 11:19:46 PM »
I'm pretty sure the You Got Lucky video is part of the The Postman continuity.

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »
I would really love to revive this thread, but I am famously stupid about music and it's many videos. Will someone find a good one so we can analyze it? Thank you.

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 06:20:16 PM »
unfortunately, im at work and im unable to throw my own suggestion in for this but i would enjoy seeing this thread revived as well. 

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2009, 09:26:53 AM »
I was never able to find an embeddable version of the video for Let's Dance, which I felt would have made a fine closer to the Stayin' Alive/You Got Lucky/Let's Dance music video apocalypse trilogy.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 02:19:27 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLnDuzgkjo[/youtube]

A question that requires little build-up: who was the best member of Ram Jam? Feel free to weigh with in any background information you may know and wish to share about the members of Ram Jam, but feel even more free to base your opinion almost eniterly on the video for "Black Betty" above.

So who ya got?
  • The lead singer/guitarist who appears to be doing almost all the work?
  • The drummer, who is, to be fair, also carrying a lot of the load in a less showy fashion?
  • Bennett from Commando?
  • That completely badass handclappin' dude?
  • The really agreeable, happy-looking Jesus-y dude off to the right you can best see about a minute in?

OK, two more follow-up questions: there appear to be only three ladies partying around that motorcycle in the back. Which members of Ram Jam are getting left out of the action? Also, if this video was the only thing you knew about Ram Jam, they would be pretty much the greatest band of all time, right?
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 02:28:33 PM »
Old Leadbelly song: From youtube Someone I respect once told me that this song is about a child born of incest and rape.. which may explain why Huddie gives an off beat rapping to the back of his guitar

Re video: Twin guitar lines approaching 2 minute mark @ 2:12 I think the other guitarist is playing the hottest part.  Lead guy is just mugging and posing.

I vote for guitarist #2.
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 03:07:14 PM »
My vote is for the mysterious voice that says "Get It" at 1:39.  Can a video be haunted?

Yes it can:

http://www.spinnermusic.co.uk/2009/10/12/researchers-say-photo-of-jim-morrisons-ghost-is-real

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 03:38:29 PM »
Re video: Twin guitar lines approaching 2 minute mark @ 2:12 I think the other guitarist is playing the hottest part.  Lead guy is just mugging and posing.

I vote for guitarist #2.

Good catch, this is worth noting. I guess the question is, does the frontman deserve credit for putting on a show for the people, or does the other guy get extra points for knowing his place and not trying to steal any thunder? I think I side with you on this point, though I wouldn't vote for either of them as Best Member Of Ram Jam.

http://www.spinnermusic.co.uk/2009/10/12/researchers-say-photo-of-jim-morrisons-ghost-is-real

From the article: "Word quickly spread thanks to the Internet and the historian sent the photo in for further analysis, which concluded that the snapshot was indeed as bone chilling as it was first perceived."

I like that they were able to confirm and quantify the bone-chillingness.

Jim Morrison's ghost seems like a real asshole.
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 03:50:47 PM »
That's a surprise.

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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 03:53:09 PM »
...there appear to be only three ladies partying around that motorcycle in the back. Which members of Ram Jam are getting left out of the action?

From my knowledge of rock math, when it comes to action, ratios do not always break down to 1:1.  
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Re: Music Video Analysis Thread
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 04:04:12 PM »
My vote is for the mysterious voice Goat that says "Get It" at 1:39.  Can a video be haunted?

Yes it can:

http://www.spinnermusic.co.uk/2009/10/12/researchers-say-photo-of-jim-morrisons-ghost-is-real


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