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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2009, 01:00:02 PM »
i still enjoy bukowski, but not as much as i did when i was younger.  of course, when i was younger, i was intrigued by the lifestyle he wrote about, being a writer myself.

as an adult, ive had my share of lowest lows, and the magic was gone. 

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2009, 11:09:25 PM »
i still enjoy bukowski, but not as much as i did when i was younger.  of course, when i was younger, i was intrigued by the lifestyle he wrote about, being a writer myself.

as an adult, ive had my share of lowest lows, and the magic was gone. 

I share this sentiment.  I loved Bukowski when I was a pre-verted teenager.  Now: eh.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2009, 06:24:30 AM »
The documentary "Bukowski: Born Into This" (2002) is da bomb, I tell ya.

I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2009, 09:54:15 AM »
I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.

A lot of students would go just to antagonize and challenge him, so there's some pretty mad heckling at times.  There are some good recordings of his readings, if you're interested.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2009, 10:30:31 AM »
I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.

I do not understand why this is appealing.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2009, 11:08:24 AM »
I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.

I do not understand why this is appealing.

Yeah. I was going to say exactly the same thing. That sounds like the worst.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2009, 11:35:37 AM »
I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.

Do you like the Pogues? I think a Pogues show might fulfill your need for this type of entertainment.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2009, 12:05:07 PM »
The kind of person that likes to watch an alcoholic get drunk strikes me as the kind of person that loves to talk about their own self-diagnosed psychological disorders, or the torture they inflict upon themselves in the name of "their art."

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2009, 10:40:27 PM »
That's good, too.  I've re-watched that movie fairly recently and found it to be quite funny.  There are also a lot of lines from that movie quoted in punk rock songs.

'I don't hate people, I just feel better when they're not around' is a personal favorite.

I like Bukowski although not to the point of reading everything he did.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2009, 12:05:02 AM »
That's good, too.  I've re-watched that movie fairly recently and found it to be quite funny.  There are also a lot of lines from that movie quoted in punk rock songs.

'I don't hate people, I just feel better when they're not around' is a personal favorite.


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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2009, 01:21:25 AM »
The kind of person that likes to watch an alcoholic get drunk strikes me as the kind of person that loves to talk about their own self-diagnosed psychological disorders, or the torture they inflict upon themselves in the name of "their art."

Does that mean if you had the opportunity to go back in time and attend a Doors concert, uh let's see...circa 1970, or to see the Sex Pistols in a basement bar in London you'd say "I'll pass. I don't want to see self abusive and self indulgent rock stars."? They were all high to the gills.

Like Dave Gilmour said in that doc about the making of Dark Side of the Moon, "Too much feedback?! Where would rock music be without feedback?"

There's always the Carpenters. Minus the anorexia.

Every time you buy a ticket or purchase an album you might contributing to someone's drug abuse. Do you own a copy of Nevermind?

My favorite Buk book is Ham On Rye. It's about his childhood and early adulthood. It explains how he ended up in the way he did.

I wouldn't want to see Buk in a reading just to see him collapse from an alcohol overdose. But those shows were entertaining in their own right.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2009, 01:24:57 AM »
The documentary "Bukowski: Born Into This" (2002) is da bomb, I tell ya.

I wish I coulda attended one of his poetry readings before he died. I heard he'd get so drunk on stage that by the end of the night they had to carry him off.

Born Into This is a really good documentary besides being maybe my favorite Bukowski poem.  If anything, the guy certainly had an interesting life.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2009, 01:36:47 AM »
I do like Born Into This. I own that film and alot of his poetry and novels.

I want to apologize to some of the posters here. I didn't want to come off as wanting to see someone just to see them disintegrate on stage. No way. I was just simply stating that that is what happened once or twice at his readings.

I would think that if he were alive today he would side with me on this issue. My God, he wrote about it all the time and lived his life in this way.

Not saying this is a good way to live. But you can't deny that millions of people like his work.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2009, 03:02:53 AM »
Hold on, the guy from the wet t-shirt scene in SUPERVAN was a writer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODHEvNKpAQ

I like that song. Does it actually do that "this here is Charles Bukowski" thing in the film?

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2009, 03:26:53 AM »
The kind of person that likes to watch an alcoholic get drunk strikes me as the kind of person that loves to talk about their own self-diagnosed psychological disorders, or the torture they inflict upon themselves in the name of "their art."

Does that mean if you had the opportunity to go back in time and attend a Doors concert, uh let's see...circa 1970, or to see the Sex Pistols in a basement bar in London you'd say "I'll pass. I don't want to see self abusive and self indulgent rock stars."? They were all high to the gills.

My comment wasn't directed at you specifically. I can see why it sounded like it was, but I didn't mean it to come off like that. I do find that most Bukowski fans I meet celebrate his fucked up life, as if its something to be admired. I don't particularly give a shit that they do this, but I do find it absolutely stupid and worthy of mocking.

That said, your example couldn't have been worse: you couldn't pay me money to watch Jim Morrison do anything.