In. I've been between 3-10 pounds overweight (my weight fluctuates a LOT) for years. I offer up whatever bullshit thing I put in the FOT barter thread and will accept whatever bullshit (or non-bullshit) things that are offered.
OH, and put lots of loud, fast rock'n'roll on your zunes! hip hop is nice in the weight room, too.
EDIT: I need to gain muscle and get in better shape in general. I want to improve my long distance running and weight lifting abilities.
It would all be so easy if gyms weren't such bacteria-ridden, depressing hellpits.
I finally joined a gym last year and did weights and yoga pretty consistently for a good nine months, but stopped around new year when I started seriously working on renovating my house. I spend every evening and weekend on that now (and for the foreseeable future) and figured it would be strenuous enough to keep me in shape, but I'm beginning to realize that's not the case. It's just not the right kind of work-out. I've always been a very skinny guy with OK eating habits (rarely drink, small healthy meals, lots of vegetables and an awful lot of sweets as well) so I don't need to lose weight, but I've lost all that muscle tone I worked for.
Anyhow this thread is inspiring me to give some time back over to real exercise again. I'm not so into a competition necessarily but I will definitely be checking in for encouragement.
Here's a question (maybe Hugman or TE can answer): what's the best sustainable way to alter my diet to gain some muscle mass (say 10 pounds) while working out? As an ectomorph I've always had trouble with this, and I've tried eating more food in general and with more protein, but it never seems to help that much. I gain a little but hit a plateau pretty quickly (not braggin'. it sucks looking like a gangly teenager in your thirties).
Thanks! I have to admit 6 meals sounds tough to get used to, but if it works...
On the weight side lots of compound movements, if your a guys that wants to pack on the muscle skip the dainty isolation exercises. You should have maybe 6 to 8 core exercise and the goal on those is to push yourself to lift heavier (sensibly of course) and in the lower rep range 6-10 versus 12-15 most generalists use.
so your gonna wanna do compound movements like:
military presses
barbell rows
squats
deadlifts
dips/pushups
I'm 28, 6'10' 240lbs. I don't smoke or drink, BUT I don't exercise or eat healthy. I could list excuses why, but there is really no excuse for the shape I'm in. My dad died of heart disease last year at the age of 45. That really scared me. I support this idea because it is the kick-in-the-pants I need to get back in shape.
I'm 28, 6'10' 240lbs. I don't smoke or drink, BUT I don't exercise or eat healthy. I could list excuses why, but there is really no excuse for the shape I'm in. My dad died of heart disease last year at the age of 45. That really scared me. I support this idea because it is the kick-in-the-pants I need to get back in shape.
is that a typo or are you gonna be the center of the FOT intramural basketball team?
Here's a question (maybe Hugman or TE can answer): what's the best sustainable way to alter my diet to gain some muscle mass (say 10 pounds) while working out? As an ectomorph I've always had trouble with this, and I've tried eating more food in general and with more protein, but it never seems to help that much. I gain a little but hit a plateau pretty quickly (not braggin'. it sucks looking like a gangly teenager in your thirties).
I would love to know how to loose my gut.
I'm 28, 6'10' 240lbs. I don't smoke or drink, BUT I don't exercise or eat healthy. I could list excuses why, but there is really no excuse for the shape I'm in. My dad died of heart disease last year at the age of 45. That really scared me. I support this idea because it is the kick-in-the-pants I need to get back in shape.
is that a typo or are you gonna be the center of the FOT intramural basketball team?
Thanks! I have to admit 6 meals sounds tough to get used to, but if it works...
On the weight side lots of compound movements, if your a guys that wants to pack on the muscle skip the dainty isolation exercises. You should have maybe 6 to 8 core exercise and the goal on those is to push yourself to lift heavier (sensibly of course) and in the lower rep range 6-10 versus 12-15 most generalists use.
so your gonna wanna do compound movements like:
military presses
barbell rows
squats
deadlifts
dips/pushups
Does it matter a whole lot whether I use free weights or machines? I usually work out alone and without a spotter it makes sense to stay on the machines for some exercises (eg squats, bench press), but I wonder if that isolates things too much by taking balance and control out of the equation.
I would love to know how to loose my gut.
supposedly, belly fat is the hardest to lose. from what ive read, cardio gets that gut under control...and it seems to be working for me.
I would love to know how to loose my gut.
supposedly, belly fat is the hardest to lose. from what ive read, cardio gets that gut under control...and it seems to be working for me.
supposedly and generally speaking, belly fat is first to come and last to go on men while women tend to collect and have trouble shedding in the legs and caboose.
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
i'm not planning to shoot anyone! IF I got a gun, it would be for protection. My more thoughtful plan is to learn martial arts for self defense, fitness, and a false sense of security. In the mean time, I've got other things for protection that aren't guns.
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
i'm not planning to shoot anyone! IF I got a gun, it would be for protection. My more thoughtful plan is to learn martial arts for self defense, fitness, and a false sense of security. In the mean time, I've got other things for protection that aren't guns.
there it is, shoot them a roundhouse kick to the face! but in all seriousness, i'll say it again, stay safe, Julie.
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
i'm not planning to shoot anyone! IF I got a gun, it would be for protection. My more thoughtful plan is to learn martial arts for self defense, fitness, and a false sense of security. In the mean time, I've got other things for protection that aren't guns.
there it is, shoot them a roundhouse kick to the face! but in all seriousness, i'll say it again, stay safe, Julie.
It isn't my fault that a crazy person became obsessed with me. The only way to stay safe is to be prepared for whatever kinds of things crazy stalkers do. And to move as soon as my lease expires.
Yeah! Thanks, hugman. I listened to it while sitting on my doughy ass, and loved it.
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
i'm not planning to shoot anyone! IF I got a gun, it would be for protection. My more thoughtful plan is to learn martial arts for self defense, fitness, and a false sense of security. In the mean time, I've got other things for protection that aren't guns.
there it is, shoot them a roundhouse kick to the face! but in all seriousness, i'll say it again, stay safe, Julie.
It isn't my fault that a crazy person became obsessed with me. The only way to stay safe is to be prepared for whatever kinds of things crazy stalkers do. And to move as soon as my lease expires.
i need a roommate! and as far as i know, the neigborhood is a creep-free zone. find a way to phoenix and youve got an escape from the ghoul thats making your life miserable.
and since this is the fitness thread, martial arts sounds like a good idea; it serves as two birds with one stone.
julie, shooting people is not a sport.*
i'm not planning to shoot anyone! IF I got a gun, it would be for protection. My more thoughtful plan is to learn martial arts for self defense, fitness, and a false sense of security. In the mean time, I've got other things for protection that aren't guns.
there it is, shoot them a roundhouse kick to the face! but in all seriousness, i'll say it again, stay safe, Julie.
It isn't my fault that a crazy person became obsessed with me. The only way to stay safe is to be prepared for whatever kinds of things crazy stalkers do. And to move as soon as my lease expires.
i need a roommate! and as far as i know, the neigborhood is a creep-free zone. find a way to phoenix and youve got an escape from the ghoul thats making your life miserable.
and since this is the fitness thread, martial arts sounds like a good idea; it serves as two birds with one stone.
Okay, what about my dog? She must come with.
Just inhaled half a pineapple. Is that a problem?Isn't pineapple good for your digestive system?
Just inhaled half a pineapple. Is that a problem?Isn't pineapple good for your digestive system?
Pineapple is my favorite fruit. It's obviously very healthy, but it's also very acidic so it sometimes may give ya' a belly ache if ya' eat too much.
I rode 16 miles on my bike today, a new personal record. Yesterday was 12. I sure hope I keep this up!Riding your bike is really cool, Thomas!
How is everyone else doing?
I rode 16 miles on my bike today, a new personal record. Yesterday was 12. I sure hope I keep this up!
How is everyone else doing?
For those who like to rock (trashily) here's an mp3 of my Songs To Kick Ass To "podcast". It'll get your heartrate up and you'll glare at everyone else in the gym like you're going to kill them. Sound levels jump around a little (be especially aware that Trouble's Gonna Stay A While & Uptight Tonight are quite loud), but here's the link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kga7ih
Here's the tracklist:
1) VENI VIDI VICI -The Black Lips 2) TRASH - The Cripplers 3) DON'T LOOK AT ME WHEN I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU - The Revelators 4) HIPSVILLE 29 BC - The Cramps 5) TROUBLE'S GONNA STAY AWHILE - The Deadly Snakes 6) UPTIGHT TONIGHT - Flash & The Casuals 7) ODE TO A BLACK MAN - The Dirtbombs 8 ) THAT BLOWS - Von Zippers 9) BEAT ON THE BRAT - Thee Mighty Caesars 10) I SEE YOU, BABY - The Screws 11) RUNNIN SHINE - Zeke 12) TIRED OF YOU SICK OF ME - Scared of Chaka 13) SWING - Bloody Hollies 14) NO LOVE LOST - Joy Division 15) SOOPRIZE PACKAGE FOR MR. MINEO - The Mummies 16) ANTI-SATISFACTION - The Drags 17) I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD - Volt 18) NO REASON TO LIVE - OBLIVIANS 19) I'M INSANE - T-Model Ford
PS-Baron, do you have the Revelators "We Told You Not To Cross Us" on Crypt. It's essential. One of the best records Crypt ever put out. And that's uh-sayin' something. Great for the gym, too.
For those who like to rock (trashily) here's an mp3 of my Songs To Kick Ass To "podcast". It'll get your heartrate up and you'll glare at everyone else in the gym like you're going to kill them. Sound levels jump around a little (be especially aware that Trouble's Gonna Stay A While & Uptight Tonight are quite loud), but here's the link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kga7ih
Here's the tracklist:
1) VENI VIDI VICI -The Black Lips 2) TRASH - The Cripplers 3) DON'T LOOK AT ME WHEN I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU - The Revelators 4) HIPSVILLE 29 BC - The Cramps 5) TROUBLE'S GONNA STAY AWHILE - The Deadly Snakes 6) UPTIGHT TONIGHT - Flash & The Casuals 7) ODE TO A BLACK MAN - The Dirtbombs 8 ) THAT BLOWS - Von Zippers 9) BEAT ON THE BRAT - Thee Mighty Caesars 10) I SEE YOU, BABY - The Screws 11) RUNNIN SHINE - Zeke 12) TIRED OF YOU SICK OF ME - Scared of Chaka 13) SWING - Bloody Hollies 14) NO LOVE LOST - Joy Division 15) SOOPRIZE PACKAGE FOR MR. MINEO - The Mummies 16) ANTI-SATISFACTION - The Drags 17) I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD - Volt 18) NO REASON TO LIVE - OBLIVIANS 19) I'M INSANE - T-Model Ford
PS-Baron, do you have the Revelators "We Told You Not To Cross Us" on Crypt. It's essential. One of the best records Crypt ever put out. And that's uh-sayin' something. Great for the gym, too.
Thank you, hugman, for this mix and for hipping me to that Revelators album, which is the most rockin' thing I've discovered in ages. Are their other albums this good?
You are welcome. That's their only album. There's another (crappy, I'm assuming) Revelators (maybe more) out there that often get lumped together with them on amazon, etc. They formed to open for the Oblivians (a show I was fucking AT and for the weirdest reason, I literally don't remember a second of that show. I wasn't wasted either. I must have been raped or something), they put out that awesome record, they did a European tour and a dismal southeast US tour, the drummer quit, they recorded a second record with Bill Randt from New Bomb Turks on drums. It is called Let A Poor Boy Ride and Tim Warren has been sitting on it ever since (12 years or so now. I should really get over it, especially since I've talked to Jeremiah about it and he says it's just okay). And that's the history of The Revelators. Now, go work out!
I wonder, if you needed to lose weight, if steroids would help? Just turn it all into muscle.Apparently fat can only be shrunk, it cannot be turned into muscle.
You will feel better if you go jogging or get a big dog so that you can have a dance party!
Did you find a roommate yet?
You will feel better if you go jogging or get a big dog so that you can have a dance party!
Did you find a roommate yet?
yep. my friend shaun. we're moving downtown, away from all the things i do that i live across the street from now. ill go from walking everywhere to driving everywhere. im happy and sad.
i think im going to hit the gym tonite. do some thinking time away from my record player.
You will feel better if you go jogging or get a big dog so that you can have a dance party!
Did you find a roommate yet?
yep. my friend shaun. we're moving downtown, away from all the things i do that i live across the street from now. ill go from walking everywhere to driving everywhere. im happy and sad.
i think im going to hit the gym tonite. do some thinking time away from my record player.
Congratulations on getting a roommate, although I'm devastated it can't be me! I had to start driving places in December and I've noticed that driving world is becoming just as small as the walking world. I cut the same person off about 3 times in a typical week and I think he knows me now. And once a horrible lady wouldn't let me over. I just knew she hurrying to the grocery store. What do you think? I was right about the grocery store even though the store was still a few miles away. Obviously, you can still make a lot of new friends when you're driving and, even though you can't have a traditional conversation with them, I found that a few simple gestures effectively communicate some very large ideas. It's important to maintain this kind of connection with the world around you when you are trying to be healthy.
If you have a large dog to dance with, you could spend a considerable amount of time with your record player while getting fit.
i think tonite, im going to throw a provate dance party with the okmoniks/nobunny. itll be fun.
Running is good for listening to words. Podcasts, audiobooks, and recorded lectures all make time fly. Running is also the only time I can listen to hip hop and pay attention to the lyrics.
I tried many things to allow me to listen to music while I swim . . .
I tried many things to allow me to listen to music while I swim . . .
I might have to try this. Swimming might be in my future. The only thing I ever do is run. I used to mix in the other two of the three components of the Army PT test--pushups and situps--but they are really boring. Swimming seems a fun way to become more balanced.
I've read that swimming is a good workout (obviously), but a bad way to lose weight, because the water keeps your body temperature low or something.
I've read that swimming is a good workout (obviously), but a bad way to lose weight, because the water keeps your body temperature low or something.
More and more the evidence is showing that exercising in general is not nearly as effective as diet for losing weight. As in it's the 20 in the 80-20 rule.
But it's good for building endurance and overall health...
More and more the evidence is showing that exercising in general is not nearly as effective as diet for losing weight. As in it's the 20 in the 80-20 rule.
But it's good for building endurance and overall health...
More and more the evidence is showing that exercising in general is not nearly as effective as diet for losing weight. As in it's the 20 in the 80-20 rule.
But it's good for building endurance and overall health...
You don't burn all that many calories while exercising. But I think the follow-on effects help you lose weight.
I exercise mostly for the endorphin rush which makes me feel like unto a God. My BMI is 22 even. I suppose it would be nice to get it below 20 but it's even nicer to continue eating cupcakes.
I exercise mostly for the endorphin rush which makes me feel like unto a God. My BMI is 22 even. I suppose it would be nice to get it below 20 but it's even nicer to continue eating cupcakes.
I've never heard the term muscle confusion. I do try to mix things up with my running, though--I vary the distance according to no schedule, and some days I just randomly try to go as fast as I can, which makes me gasp for air amusingly, startling the ladies and gentlemen out on their strolls. My favorite thing is to try to sprint for as long as I can near the end of a run. It's easier to run 2 miles than sprint 2 blocks.
And now, I am about to go on a 45 minute trip to the nearest place that sells vegetarian cheesesteaks.
I exercise mostly for the endorphin rush which makes me feel like unto a God. My BMI is 22 even. I suppose it would be nice to get it below 20 but it's even nicer to continue eating cupcakes.
I love runner's high!!!
I am looking for music to listen to while I run. I enjoy songs that express an atheist, alienated, anti-authoritarian, anti-corporate sentiment. So besides NIN, I like XTERMENATOR by Primal Scream and The Holy Bible by The Manic Street Preachers. My enjoyment of Rage Against the Machine begins and ends with Killing In The Name. I find them sonically uninspiring. Sometimes I listen to Mclusky and Public Enemy as well. Any suggestions? I find this sort of music to be best, although I've listened to plenty of other things while running in the past. The artists' words express my frustrations and the running is a means for me to release those frustrations.
I am looking for music to listen to while I run. I enjoy songs that express an atheist, alienated, anti-authoritarian, anti-corporate sentiment. So besides NIN, I like XTERMENATOR by Primal Scream and The Holy Bible by The Manic Street Preachers. My enjoyment of Rage Against the Machine begins and ends with Killing In The Name. I find them sonically uninspiring. Sometimes I listen to Mclusky and Public Enemy as well. Any suggestions? I find this sort of music to be best, although I've listened to plenty of other things while running in the past. The artists' words express my frustrations and the running is a means for me to release those frustrations.
Also a rock band that I think never achieved the mass popularity they deserved. I want to say they were called "Limp Biskit."
Also a rock band that I think never achieved the mass popularity they deserved. I want to say they were called "Limp Biskit."
It's "Bizkit", you Fred Durstummy.
Show some fucking respect; that man did it all for the nookie.
How's everyone's bellies coming along?
I think I might have broken my arm today skateboarding so I will be taking a lil break from activities until it feels better.
I'm going to the Dr. tomorrow.
I'm near 40 and thus stuck with the spare tire 4 life. I still run, mainly for the endorphins and general feeling of profound well-being, until the following day when I come down. It's like that 'Sorted For E's and Whizz' song.
I'm near 40 and thus stuck with the spare tire 4 life. I still run, mainly for the endorphins and general feeling of profound well-being, until the following day when I come down. It's like that 'Sorted For E's and Whizz' song.
how you feel is what's important anyway. often, looking better is a by-product. i'm all about the inside out approach.
Hugman, what did the Dr. say?
(I hope he didn't tell you stop thrashing; your skateboarding interest has me thinking about casually checking out the skatepark here and getting back on the old Powell Peralta).
I've been neglecting my fatness because it is taking too much time to join this YMCA, but I believe it will be coming through at the beginning of this week. Whenever it does, I'll be spending money I don't have which will initially force me to go, then hopefully things will become habit from there. As of now, because of this fake leeway, I've slacked on everything else including eating pie and pizza.
I've been neglecting my fatness because it is taking too much time to join this YMCA, but I believe it will be coming through at the beginning of this week. Whenever it does, I'll be spending money I don't have which will initially force me to go, then hopefully things will become habit from there. As of now, because of this fake leeway, I've slacked on everything else including eating pie and pizza.
I've been neglecting my fatness because it is taking too much time to join this YMCA, but I believe it will be coming through at the beginning of this week. Whenever it does, I'll be spending money I don't have which will initially force me to go, then hopefully things will become habit from there. As of now, because of this fake leeway, I've slacked on everything else including eating pie and pizza.
did you apply for financial aid at your Y? At the hollywood Y, they cut fees based on your income. Back before I was making millions of dollars on commercials I went through this process and was only paying about $15 a month.
ive gone down another pants size!
you still cant tell really (although, ive gotten questions and compliments at work), but hopefully if this continues, the next time im in LA, ill be in tha clubs, girl.
I never got to the "enjoyment" stage of exercise. The best I ever got was appreciating the effects it had on my mood and my body. I've always found all forms of exercise (except walking) incredibly dull, and the culture around it totally loathesome.
SHOCK: After a life of sloth, I joined a gym around the time this thread started and even took a few personal training classes. My question: at what point do I stop utterly loathing exercise and thinking about the multitude of things I'd rather be doing instead while at the gym?
We should all just try to have more vigorous sex on a regular basis. Simple, right? ;)
We should all just try to have more vigorous sex on a regular basis. Simple, right? ;)
That's right, erika. Rub it in.*
*Double entendre not intended.
You threw your nuts out? OUCH!!!
SHOCK: After a life of sloth, I joined a gym around the time this thread started and even took a few personal training classes. My question: at what point do I stop utterly loathing exercise and thinking about the multitude of things I'd rather be doing instead while at the gym?
after you stick to it for a while and start seeing and feeling results. also you need to vary what you do and include fun shit like playing basketball, racquetball, or boxing or whatever. Learning to hit the speedbag really fast is fun, is great exercise, and makes you feel like a tough guy.
you can also try this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LekFaAA4kug this works for me sometimes. that's my wife so be nice.
Anyone else trying to maintain a low sodium diet? There so much sodium in everything!
Also, anyone a member of sparkpeople.com?
I would die if I gave up sodium. I need sodium to live.
I'm going to gain 20 pounds in the next month.
Anyone else trying to maintain a low sodium diet? There so much sodium in everything!
Dracula would have a terrible time cutting down his sodium intake.
Dracula would have a terrible time cutting down his sodium intake.
He could suck the blood of these low-sodium freaks.
Where's my salt shaker?
between a (possibly)-broken-arm induced break in my exercise routine and professional-anxiety-fueled eating and drinking binges, I'm going to gain 20 pounds in the next month.
Hugman, you can ride a stationary bike or something, can't you? NO EXCUSES!
And take the pain pills sparingly. You can get great things (art, better drugs) by trading them!
Do you "mean" the heron made you "mad?"
Ok, so in my town they started renting out bikes- you pay 5 bucks a day to get the bike from dawn to dark, or you can pay 25 bucks for a yearly pass and get the bike whenever you want (the dawn to dark rule still applies though). I went ahead and bought a yearly pass since it was such a good deal, and I rode the bike down by the river.
I have found that I like this way more than running! It is refreshing being outside and by the river, and it's way more fun. My booty gets sore from the bicycle seat, though.
I always feel like riding the bike all day everywhere, whereas running I am pretty much tired of it 15 minutes in.
But I am going to try to alternate running/biking.
I am on a roll!
Yes, that was a pun.
Sometimes I want to eat cake. I was looking at cake when I saw that Weight Watchers had little snack cakes. I thought they might be good.(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7674/0611092329.jpg)
The size is laughable. It's as big as a fun size Kit Kat. But not as fun.
I got sushi for lunch yesterday thinking that was pretty healthy. It's weird how filling it can be. And one of the rolls had shrimp tempura in it and these things were rolled in white rice so I'm filing sushi lunch in the "you think it's going to be good for you but it's not" file.
They built a bike trail that goes all the way from the bad ass library to the new movie theater. So I'm trying to hit that up.
I like vegetables too much, Julie. My lunch is designed to ensure I eat 6 or 7 servings of fruit and veg at lunch so I can eat yummy food for dinner.
Breakfast is nothing or protein, which sucks as I love bagels.
I know that breakfast is good for you.
I have an addictive personality, so I don't believe moderation works for me. I can't break the seal. It's all or nothing.
That sounds like the monkey diet, which I advocate and helped invent.
That sounds like the monkey diet, which I advocate and helped invent.
From the moment I heard about it, I had no doubt of its inventor.
this thread is a conversanutritional train wreck.
Are you eating other monkeys as well?
i couldnt find any decent veggies to throw into a ziploc to snack on (per usual) at work today. so im on the monkey diet: cherries, banana, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries.
ill be sick by lunch.
Are you eating other monkeys as well?
Are you eating other monkeys as well?
One does not consume monkeys on the monkey diet; rather, one replaces what a human "monkey" would eat with what a knuckle dragging monkey would eat! No question is stupid, so don't feel bad for asking.
Here's an interesting article on that dude.
http://discovermagazine.com/1999/aug/featweil
Marcia Angell, executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, proclaims that alternative medicine is inferior, but popular because it is user-friendly. “Visits are leisurely, and treatment is gentle. It is also empowering. People are said to heal themselves,” she says. “People assume alternative medicine is better because it feels better to get it.”
Raw milk is the SHIT, but it's expensive.
PS- I do have a fractured elbow. I've gained 5+ pounds in the last two weeks.
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
I've plateaued at like 20 lbs down. I'm getting my distance up on my jogging, but I've hurt myself by upping it too quickly so I've been backing off a little.
Looks like I'm going to have to change my eating habits to get over this hump, dammit.
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
Sounds like we know who the second richest FOT is.
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
Sounds like we know who the second richest FOT is.
Who's the richest? Fred Leo?
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
Sounds like we know who the second richest FOT is.
yesno, monkeys always eat breakfast! It's what they do. Would you try the modified monkey diet, which includes fruit and vegetables?
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
Sounds like we know who the second richest FOT is.
It's amazing how rich you can be with a very small income when you don't go anywhere, do anything, or buy much beyond basic necessities. I recommend it.
yesno, monkeys always eat breakfast! It's what they do. Would you try the modified monkey diet, which includes fruit and vegetables?
But in order for the monkey diet to be fully effective, you must whimsically swing from trees at least 20 hours per day.
I'm so lucky: I get raw organic milk delivered to me once a week. $5.50 a gallon. (Well, there's a delivery fee, too, but I usually get other stuff as well, so it works out.)
Sounds like we know who the second richest FOT is.
It's amazing how rich you can be with a very small income when you don't go anywhere, do anything, or buy much beyond basic necessities. I recommend it.
This is very true. I'm nowhere near rich, but I eat ridiculously well by cooking myself, and not buying useless garbage all the time. (No kids helps, too.)
trader joe's now has organic ground beef in one lb packages for $5.99. I prefer buying from a farmer though.
Mark McAfee. You asked.trader joe's now has organic ground beef in one lb packages for $5.99. I prefer buying from a farmer though.
What's his name?
i like to use the 'adam and eve' method, which is, if it didnt exist in bible times, i try not to eat it. this means vegetables, fruits, certain breads, milk (a la WHOLE) and dairy, fish, grain-fed animals, etc. are okay. basically, as little processed food as possible- no canned veggies/fruits, majority of snack foods, blah blah blah.
two things to note:
1) i enjoy processed foods as well, im not as i strict as that came across. i love ice cream (marry me!) and popcorn and sour patch kids, i merely remember to eat them rarely and in moderation.
2) take the terms in this post lightly, with a grain of salt. i dont want to turn the fitness thread into a "what people really ate in the bible" discussion when all im really trying to say is, "keep it natural".
"Keep it natural" is not *always* good advice.
When I started cooking hearty, all-natural meals at home, I put on 10lbs. But, I do have a love of cheese that rivals no other, and was eating way too much pasta.
When I started cooking hearty, all-natural meals at home, I put on 10lbs. But, I do have a love of cheese that rivals no other, and was eating way too much pasta.
i think this is true with any diet; too much of anything is bad for you, whether its natural or not...which is what everyone else is saying, "natural doesnt mean good". and your love of cheese, well, i bet i run a close second.
also, buffcoat...gross.
Well, they are innards from some beasts, Julie. Just not my own. If they were, why would I need them delivered? And how could such deliveries occur on a regular basis? I mean, just how many organs do my animals have? Or perhaps I'm constantly adopting new ones to get a supply of organs going for the next batch? But the organs of two dogs and two cats wouldn't provide even a week's worth of food for two other dogs and two other cats. I'd have to get a new batch out and in every four or five days. Too much work.
Well, they are innards from some beasts, Julie. Just not my own. If they were, why would I need them delivered? And how could such deliveries occur on a regular basis? I mean, just how many organs do my animals have? Or perhaps I'm constantly adopting new ones to get a supply of organs going for the next batch? But the organs of two dogs and two cats wouldn't provide even a week's worth of food for two other dogs and two other cats. I'd have to get a new batch out and in every four or five days. Too much work.
I just thought you meant beastly innards, not innards from your beasts or for your beasts. And it was a little creepy sounding because I didn't read it correctly.
Yetta loves her some innards.
attempted to go to the gym last nite at a new location, only to find out they were closed.
then why do they call it 24 hours fitness??
attempted to go to the gym last nite at a new location, only to find out they were closed.
then why do they call it 24 hours fitness??
Sure they are open 24 hours. Just not in a row. </stevenwright>
I bought some kettlebells. They're great, and old-timey looking, but it's harder to motivate myself to use them than to run.
I lost 5% of my body weight... 5% left to go. Woo!
working for the medical industry, every year we get a free wellness check where they get your weight, make you stretch, measure your body fat and take your measurements. they also take blood so they can check all the blood nonsense like cholesterol; you dont realize how nice it is to get this information until you get it for free.
anyway, since i did the wellness check last year and this year, they are able to give you current results and compare them with last year's results. around my waist alone, i lost FOUR inches! i was ecstatic considering the weight gain (five more pounds) but ive also gained some serious muscles (i can see it in my arms) so im okay with the weight gain.
...and there it is, the reward to my hard work in the last 3-4 months.
warning: bragging
I ran around an entire lake last Sunday. Well, I had to run/walk/run for the second half. It was about 7.5 miles and I'm not in shape or anything. I'm still sore but I hope to do a repeat performance this weekend.
warning: bragging
I ran around an entire lake last Sunday. Well, I had to run/walk/run for the second half. It was about 7.5 miles and I'm not in shape or anything. I'm still sore but I hope to do a repeat performance this weekend.
Wow if you ran that far, it sounds like you're in pretty good shape to me!
I am considering giving "Couch to 5k" another try. My first attempt failed after a couple weeks. It was the dead of winter though, maybe nice weather will help.
im a gym snob. i use the timer on the elliptical or the treadmill- 2 minutes still feels like forever. nonetheless, im not a runner, but i think im going to start a new workout regime.
this couch to 5k plan seems easy enough.
I just learned that one appears bigger than one actually is from the aerial perspective the body is usually viewed from i.e. from the eyes looking downward. I didn't know that!
I just learned that one appears bigger than one actually is from the aerial perspective the body is usually viewed from i.e. from the eyes looking downward. I didn't know that!
how's everyone's bellies doing?
I went surfing yesterday for the first time since I busted my elbow.
I still can't really lift weights.
But I'm trying.
Bye.
If anyone wants to get into good shape, I recommend becoming a farmer and eating only vegetables, fruit, and meat you harvest for yourself. Worked for me!
I've been having some arm/shoulder pain that's made running difficult.
There's good news and there's bad news. I visited my GP this morning, and I have lost 30 pounds since February (I thought I had lost 5 - 10.) The bad news is that my GP freaked out, and is concerned that there might be something wrong with me. I will keep you posted.
There's good news and there's bad news. I visited my GP this morning, and I have lost 30 pounds since February (I thought I had lost 5 - 10.) The bad news is that my GP freaked out, and is concerned that there might be something wrong with me. I will keep you posted.
There's good news and there's bad news. I visited my GP this morning, and I have lost 30 pounds since February (I thought I had lost 5 - 10.) The bad news is that my GP freaked out, and is concerned that there might be something wrong with me. I will keep you posted.
Have you been exercising? If so, that's truly a horrible stance for your doctor to take. Keep us posted. Is your GP a big fat person? Maybe he's just jealous.
There's good news and there's bad news. I visited my GP this morning, and I have lost 30 pounds since February (I thought I had lost 5 - 10.) The bad news is that my GP freaked out, and is concerned that there might be something wrong with me. I will keep you posted.
Have you been exercising? If so, that's truly a horrible stance for your doctor to take. Keep us posted. Is your GP a big fat person? Maybe he's just jealous.
Yah, Dave -- I don't think that's an unreasonable amount if you've been working at it .... that's like 5 pounds a month.
Well, it's "mild" fatty liver disease; a "mild infiltration of fat into the liver that hinders the liver's ability to do its job." My problem is probably reversible with some pretty serious weight loss; the up side is that one of my symptoms is limiting the body's ability to hang on to nutrients from the food I have been eating, so I have now lost 40 pounds. THIN-NAH!!!!!!!!!
The fact that I recently discovered HeBrew Messiah Bold beer probably isn't helping.
In a moment of insanity or inspiration I quit drinking (for the moment) and signed up for a 1/2 marathon that is 2 months away.
Good for you!! That's like 13 miles right? How many miles can you do as of now?
Good for you!! That's like 13 miles right? How many miles can you do as of now?
(Sorry I didn't see this earlier kittykittymeowmixhead).
I can do 5 miles with relative ease now. But when I started last month I would really struggle to get three. My longest run has been 8 miles and that went just OK.
I'm learning that if I don't have a goal in place (like a 1/2 marathon), I won't exercise. So I'm going to sign up for another one in May as soon as the registration opens.
I'm learning that if I don't have a goal in place (like a 1/2 marathon), I won't exercise. So I'm going to sign up for another one in May as soon as the registration opens.I'm the same way! After going back and forth on running, I finally signed up for a half-marathon in December. A friend and I have begun running together - it's a lot easier to keep going when you are running with someone else. I am really looking forward to it.
No way. I took a Hindu Philosophy class and OM is definitely one of the coolest syllables out there.
After that you should go for a marathon.
1/2 to full is an easier step than 0 to 1/2.Good for you!! That's like 13 miles right? How many miles can you do as of now?
(Sorry I didn't see this earlier kittykittymeowmixhead).
I can do 5 miles with relative ease now. But when I started last month I would really struggle to get three. My longest run has been 8 miles and that went just OK.
I'm learning that if I don't have a goal in place (like a 1/2 marathon), I won't exercise. So I'm going to sign up for another one in May as soon as the registration opens.
Sounding ridiculous.
I'm on board with the concept of the thing, but it just feels a little silly in a room full of whitebread hipstery types.
I've been wondering about that leap. Thanks for the vote of confidence.After that you should go for a marathon.
1/2 to full is an easier step than 0 to 1/2.
I just got to 3 miles and hurt myself, pulled a weird muscle near my hip :( I could never run a marathon or half marathon. But I'd like to try a 5k, and 10k some day.
You kids are tragic.
Pain don't hurt.
I just got to 3 miles and hurt myself, pulled a weird muscle near my hip :( I could never run a marathon or half marathon. But I'd like to try a 5k, and 10k some day.
I'm old-fashioned, I guess: to me, an activity so grueling that it causes one to vomit is not healthy.
I've often considered that my lowest moment; laying there on the bathroom floor crying out in pain to no one.
You kids are tragic.
Pain don't hurt.
True. It is simply weakness leaving the body. Henry Rollins told me that.
I would be pleased to punch myself, too. Wait.
Seriously, congratulations, DfK. You needed to do something somewhat unpleasant for your health and you effing did it. That's so much better than most of your fellow countrymen.
Congrats, Dave!
I have lost 3 lbs since the beginning of the year. Not to blow my own horn or anything.
Not meaning to brag, but in my attempt to coax my liver out of it's near-catatonic state, I have, as of today, officially lost 50 pounds. At this rate, I will have to find a better scapegoat for my low self esteem than "really really fat'.
Apples! They're magic!
Not meaning to brag, but in my attempt to coax my liver out of it's near-catatonic state, I have, as of today, officially lost 50 pounds. At this rate, I will have to find a better scapegoat for my low self esteem than "really really fat'.
Awesome! You must feel like a million bucks ...Apples! They're magic!
They are - unfort, I don't eat them because they make me really bloated - I think it's all that fiber. I feel like a puffed up blowfish about 3 hours after I eat one.
Congrats, Dave!
I have lost 3 lbs since the beginning of the year. Not to blow my own horn or anything.
But to be fair to you, you probably weren't "positively Brimsteadian" to begin with.
Not meaning to brag, but in my attempt to coax my liver out of it's near-catatonic state, I have, as of today, officially lost 50 pounds. At this rate, I will have to find a better scapegoat for my low self esteem than "really really fat'.
Awesome! You must feel like a million bucks ...Apples! They're magic!
They are - unfort, I don't eat them because they make me really bloated - I think it's all that fiber. I feel like a puffed up blowfish about 3 hours after I eat one.
what kind do you eat? if you haven't already, try eating green apples and see if they do the same. they're lower in sugar.
Apples are incredible! My favorite are the milder granny smiths.
I ate a banana before my 4 mile run this morning. Bad idear. Apparently they can make one...windy?
I read that eating bagels while running is good. I tend to wonder at that, because bagels are really dry and could easily be choked on if eating while running.
I have been trying to build up my iron (someone said something about it being important) by eating spinach. I really like spinach, but it's time to find some other iron-rich foods.
Iron filings are a rich source of iron.Also HUMAN BLOOD!
I signed up for a CSA (community supported agriculture) for the first time this year. Basically, you pay about a month's worth of rent up front, then you get about a week's worth of vegetables or more from June to November. So I've been drowning in produce all summer.. for a while there I was picking up one watermelon a week!
In addition to riding my bike for 15 minutes to work, I lost weight from eating so many vegetables and cutting back on processed food.
Saute some dark leafy greens with oil and big chunks of garlic. They will taste amazing over anything from rice to pasta, and are one of the most nutrient dense foods out there.
The weight ... slowly, slowly inching down.
I signed up for a CSA (community supported agriculture) for the first time this year. Basically, you pay about a month's worth of rent up front, then you get about a week's worth of vegetables or more from June to November. So I've been drowning in produce all summer.. for a while there I was picking up one watermelon a week!
In addition to riding my bike for 15 minutes to work, I lost weight from eating so many vegetables and cutting back on processed food.
Saute some dark leafy greens with oil and big chunks of garlic. They will taste amazing over anything from rice to pasta, and are one of the most nutrient dense foods out there.
The weight ... slowly, slowly inching down.
I'm just trying to get my weight back up to my chest and shoulders where it started.
PULL-UP BAR?
My current physique is like Zachary Brimstead but only from the knees down.
Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Wow, I just had to look at your profile to see where you were - i didn't realize anyone was in the 30s already. Good luck!
I'm thinking about going w/ a long sleeved undershirt, t-shirt and shorts. Maybe throw-away gloves.
Thanks for the good lucks.Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Wow, I just had to look at your profile to see where you were - i didn't realize anyone was in the 30s already. Good luck!
I'm thinking about going w/ a long sleeved undershirt, t-shirt and shorts. Maybe throw-away gloves.
Thanks for the good lucks.Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Wow, I just had to look at your profile to see where you were - i didn't realize anyone was in the 30s already. Good luck!
How'd it go?
It went great, thank you.
I didn't stop to walk and I "ran my own race" (which is slow and steady).
Also, I listened to David Cross' audio book for the first 10 miles so it was really a pleasant experience.
It was cold but I would do it again.I'm thinking about going w/ a long sleeved undershirt, t-shirt and shorts. Maybe throw-away gloves.
Thanks for the good lucks.Half-marathon is only 3 days away.
Saturday's forecast: High: 38°
Wow, I just had to look at your profile to see where you were - i didn't realize anyone was in the 30s already. Good luck!
How'd it go?
Go go Doodle!
What does everyone like to listen to while exercising?
I need new running music. If anyone knows of songs with lyrics where truth is spoken to power, I would like to know. Especially good if values are challenged: justice, self, responsibility, choice, freedom, God, etc. Right now my playlist consists of The Manic Street Preachers, Primal Scream, Nine Inch Nails, and Future of the Left, although I've run to later period Talk Talk, DJ Shadow, and Black Devil, so I'm open to anything really. The main thing is that it distracts me from the fact that I'm running.
this might get me excommunicated, but i'll bet that first mika record is jolly good to jog to.it is. :)
Colonel Panic, are you training for another race now?
thanks! I ran the race a few weekends ago, and I don't know if it was because it was a new experience for me and I was super excited or what, but that was the best 13 miles I've ever run. It was so much fun and I exceeded my pace goal by a minute.
I am training for one now in March that is in my hometown. I am hoping to get another minute shaved off.
I need running shoes recommendations. I live on the edge of Roger Williams Park that has nice walking/running trails.I say the best thing to do is find a store that specializes in running shoes. They can custom fit your foot according to the shape and stride at which you run. The shoes will be expensive ($80-$200 generally) but you can really feel the difference when you run. I make an hour drive trip to a specialty store and they are so nice and helpful!
I need running shoes recommendations. I live on the edge of Roger Williams Park that has nice walking/running trails.I say the best thing to do is find a store that specializes in running shoes. They can custom fit your foot according to the shape and stride at which you run. The shoes will be expensive ($80-$200 generally) but you can really feel the difference when you run. I make an hour drive trip to a specialty store and they are so nice and helpful!
I love my shoes. I have Saucony...don't know the style right off.
Good luck, Dave. It sounds like they at least have things figured out for you. Teach that gall bladder to suck up and deal with your new healthy ways!
Please keep us posted.
I'm supplementing the normal holiday gluttony with daily breakfasts of croissants, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or huge bagels the size of my face. This won't end well. I already feel the belly coming back. This is where New Years resolutions come from.
My ongoing progress report;
Liver "went to sleep" due to a bad combination of me weighing too much for nearly 50 years and deciding last summer to quit taking all medication, since I had better things (like the electric bill) to spend that money on.
Went on a non-fried foods low-fat heavy in vegetables and fruits diet; holding steady at total weight loss of 45 pounds, need to get more time carved out of my schedule for more activity (walking 7-10 miles/week is just not priming my metabolism pump.) Consequently, liver wakes up and numbers look good.
What could be wrong, right?
6-8 weeks ago, I start with a bad combination of occasional nausea and persistent abdominal/chest pain. Fearing a heart attack (but not really, because it's not always in the chest area, it seems to move from there to my right side, just under and behind the bottom ribs) I finally succumb and go to the doctor. Ready with your amateur diagnosis?
So, the thought is that by maintaining a gross high-fat diet for what seems like forever, my gall bladder was "trained" to produce enzymes at a high rate in order to process all the french fries blowing through my system. When I shutdown the tater tot train, the gall bladder, what with its small brain, can't adapt, and keeps spitting out those now useless enzymes, and they run rampant through my system like guys with hidden knives at the county fair.
I see the surgeon on the 28th, surgery soon after. I am shooting for after the 1st, so I at least burn some work days rather than the few days of break I am granted. If I get to keep the stones, I will try to remember to send them to Mike.
dfk
I never would have imagined that, as usually the organs rebel when you treat them wrong.
i went down another size!
im celebrating with beer and pizza tonite. don't think i should? watch me.
When I made my first post in this thread I weighed 194 and my running was off. Now I weigh 174 and am going for half an hour at a time, starting at 5mph and ending at 8mph. Now my goal is to improve my personal best-run time for 5k. So, I’ll post back in this thread two months from now with an update.
I'll follow a schedule akin to this one: http://running.about.com/od/racetraining/a/intermediate5K.htm
Gall bladder comes out Monday; cross your fingers!
Gall bladder comes out Monday; cross your fingers!
You'll be in my prayers!
I've gained about 15 pounds since this thread started, but I'm not gonna complain about it. I hide it pretty well.
It should've been titled, "Songs to Kick Ass Two".
Forgive me if I'm repeating myself. When I got into the best shape of my life (six-pack, etc) three things seemed to be the key: No potatoes (life without them isn't that bad although I've been eating lots of fries lately), no white flour (maybe a burrito once a month if that), and weight training. And interval cardio training would probably be a good idea, too. I was also doing a play at the time in which I was the lead and freaking out in every single scene and the rehearsal schedule was pretty hardcore so I'd recommend adding being the lead in a play to your fitness regimen. So make that five things.
Forgive me if I'm repeating myself. When I got into the best shape of my life (six-pack, etc) three things seemed to be the key: No potatoes (life without them isn't that bad although I've been eating lots of fries lately), no white flour (maybe a burrito once a month if that), and weight training. And interval cardio training would probably be a good idea, too.
Forgive me if I'm repeating myself. When I got into the best shape of my life (six-pack, etc) three things seemed to be the key: No potatoes (life without them isn't that bad although I've been eating lots of fries lately), no white flour (maybe a burrito once a month if that), and weight training. And interval cardio training would probably be a good idea, too. I was also doing a play at the time in which I was the lead and freaking out in every single scene and the rehearsal schedule was pretty hardcore so I'd recommend adding being the lead in a play to your fitness regimen. So make that five things.
...but you haven't seen me without a shirt on.
What about cheese, erika?
What about cheese, erika?
It belongs in my belly, surrounded by bread.
I will never stop eating cheese or bread. Ever.
GOAL WEIGHT!!!!!! YESSSSSSS. GOOOOOOAL.
The biggest thing is that I make my lunches light. I love a pita stuffed with fresh veg and hummus with fruits and veggies on the side.
The bike is mostly for my husband to help with his back condition/injury, but maybe if I move from time to time, I might actually tone some of this smooshy body.
The bike is mostly for my husband to help with his back condition/injury, but maybe if I move from time to time, I might actually tone some of this smooshy body.
Erika,
Blood flow is super important for healing.
Ride.
Backs do heal.
Stretching and ice are wonderfully useful tools.
Tell your husband pain can be our greatest teacher.
Really sincerely,
Dr. Fredericks
"Pizza" tip: I make these all the time. You get a package of Ezekial tortillas. Their the worst things on earth for wraps or burritos, but what they are good for is a makeshift pizza crust. Spread sauce up on there and sprinkle with cheese and your favorite toppings. Bake at 450 for five minutes or so. Voila. Sure the cheese just kind of slides around on the sauce and it doesn't all really stick together like pizza but it tastes real good. At least when I make it it does.